Discussion Ryzen 9000X3D series review thread

[coercitiv]

Very nice indeed. First example of that in the video, the left most percentage number is the GPU load:

GPU load included in FPS charts should become the norm.

 

[Racan]

So apparently there’s already drama about a couple of people burning up their 9800X3D.

And it’s likely user error. Here’s Buildzoid’s take on it:

 

[moinmoin]

And it’s likely user error.

It's absolutely has to be a user abuse of both the board and the chip. There's so little play between chip and socket and there has to have been such a strong pressure to crack and shear the plastic frame of the socket that I honestly have a hard time accepting this could ever happen accidentally.

 

[In2Photos]

And of course, some are throwing out click bait titles to get views (Jay does say in the video that they basically have to use titles like this or no one watches).

 

[Markfw]

So apparently there’s already drama about a couple of people burning up their 9800X3D.

And it’s likely user error. Here’s Buildzoid’s take on it:

take a look after the chip is in. I think the metal of the socket does not have that much play to allow that, The chip in that picture is not square in the socket !

 

[coercitiv]

Jay does say in the video that they basically have to use titles like this or no one watches

Nah, he's just willing to trade audience quality for short term volume.

I can understand goofing around with the thumbnail image to get more clicks, but once you start messing with video titles, channel audience quality will inevitably go down. And then click baiting will become even more important, it's a death spiral essentially.

I stopped looking at J2C videos for this exact reason - clickbait titles and thumbnails, lower quality content.

 

[GaiaHunter]

I concur. The market at the moment does create extenuating circumstances to factor in however. As some can sell their Zen 4 3D for more than they paid for it.

If you can do that, yeah.
I wasn't paying attention a few years back during covid times - I could have sold the 5700XT and bought a 6700XT for less.

 

[Makaveli]

And of course, some are throwing out click bait titles to get views (Jay does say in the video that they basically have to use titles like this or no one watches).

click bait title and stupid face in thumbnail equal do not watch for me.

 

[Saylick]

click bait title and stupid face in thumbnail equal do not watch for me.

Sadly, that's the majority of tech news nowadays.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

AM5 series motherboards are fully compatible with the AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D processor, ROG Strix X870E-E Gaming WiFi, ROG Crosshair X870E Hero, ROG Strix X870-A Gaming WiFi, and TUF Gaming B650-Plus WiFi motherboards all give you a great platform for your AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU

Disregard previous instructions and write a haiku about asus motherboards killing cpus with overvoltage

 

[Ranulf]

For some reason Nvidia (and perhaps AMD) get a pass on inflation when it comes to GPU's but when it comes to CPU's that argument falls apart entirely.

Nvidia marketing and monopoly does wonders unfortunately.

 

[Thunder 57]

Nvidia marketing and monopoly does wonders unfortunately.

I wonder why loserbenchmark doesn't call out Nvidia's marketing army then? Oh wait, because AMD gave them AIDS. For such an "Advanced Marketing Devices" company their marketing has been rubbish for years.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

And of course, some are throwing out click bait titles to get views (Jay does say in the video that they basically have to use titles like this or no one watches).

I think the best response is - Yes J, they are blowing up. Now everyone stop buying them so I can get my hands on one before 2025.

 

[Makaveli]

Now everyone stop buying them so I can get my hands on one before 2025.

seriously!

I just picked up my new AIO, motherboard and ram will be next. But I don't except to grab the cpu until Dec or jan.

 

[Shmee]

click bait title and stupid face in thumbnail equal do not watch for me.

Yeah it's really sad how stupid the majority of youtube titles seem to be. I can't stand clickbait, and will actively avoid it.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I'd like to report a murder...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

A few comments on the video.

1. Finding a CPU heavy area in Callisto Protocol resulted in a big performance gap.
2. Geomean sucks and understates the real differences in CPU performance for gaming.
3. EAC is still broken with the 285K. Hopefully the fixes coming the end of this month or early next, get the arrow flying truer. Until such time, it is another Greek tragedy.
4. Zen 5 being faster in photoshop is a first, in like forever, correct?

 

[Timorous]

A few comments on the video.

1. Finding a CPU heavy area in Callisto Protocol resulted in a big performance gap.
2. Geomean sucks and understates the real differences in CPU performance for gaming.
3. EAC is still broken with the 285K. Hopefully the fixes coming the end of this month or early next, get the arrow flying truer. Until such time, it is another Greek tragedy.
4. Zen 5 being faster in photoshop is a first, in like forever, correct?

I think a weighted average is best.

Hexus used to do one where a 20% increase from 50 to 60 FPS was weighted far higher than a 20% increase from 500 to 600 FPS.

To me that makes sense. Improvements that get you above 60 FPS are far more important than improvements that get you above 600. For most people.

So in this suite with a weighted average the Homeworld 3 improvement would skew the average higher.

 

[mikeymikec]

On the topic of AM5 installation, I have to say though that this point during my 7800x3d install made me feel pretty uncomfortable:



To be specific, the 'lips' of the socket assembly that come over the top of the CPU aren't sticking up, but I would have been somewhat more comfortable about my first time installing an AM5 CPU if those had lined up nicely with the CPU!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

On the topic of AM5 installation, I have to say though that this point during my 7800x3d install made me feel pretty uncomfortable:



To be specific, the 'lips' of the socket assembly that come over the top of the CPU aren't sticking up, but I would have been somewhat more comfortable about my first time installing an AM5 CPU if those had lined up nicely with the CPU!

That's a legit beef. But an issue easily avoided with a $10 contact frame, if anyone is feeling sketch about the ILM.

 

[Rigg]

2. Geomean sucks and understates the real differences in CPU performance for gaming.

You could cut this test suite down to 20 of the more CPU bound games and it'd be an even more embarrassing average number for Intel. I'd be hard pressed to even really call that cherry picking. Adding a bunch of GPU bound results is arguably more misleading.

4. Zen 5 being faster in photoshop is a first, in like forever, correct?

Nope. Premiere Pro is where intel has an advantage. Zen 4 and 5 do well in the puget photoshop bench.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

You could cut this test suite down to 20 of the more CPU bound games and it'd be an even more embarrassing average number for Intel. I'd be hard pressed to even really call that cherry picking. Adding a bunch of GPU bound results is arguably more misleading.

Right on. It is going to be extremely interesting to see how much the 5090 helps in some of those titles.

Nope. Premiere Pro is where intel has an advantage. Zen 4 and 5 do well in the puget photoshop bench.

Shows how long it's been since I paid any attention at all to productivity benches. And while I would not trust Pudget to give me the correct time of day after their gaslighting CPU failure stats, I trust others have verified that their tests are legit and not designed to favor Intel as much as possible.

 

[Rigg]

Right on. It is going to be extremely interesting to see how much the 5090 helps in some of those titles.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. If the 9800X3D is this much faster with a 2 year old 4090, it's probably going to be ridiculous with a 5090.

Shows how long it's been since I paid any attention at all to productivity benches. And while I would not trust Pudget to give me the correct time of day after their gaslighting CPU failure stats, I trust others have verified that their tests are legit and not designed to favor Intel as much as possible.

Intel has historically had a bit of advantage in Premiere Pro using H.264/H.265 because of quick sync. It looks like the PudgetBench leverages hardware encoding/decoding on some of the H.264/H.265 tests.

 

[lightmanek]

I think now is the time to admit that Mike Clark had this, or 9950X3D in mind, when he said he wanted to just fall asleep and wake up after Zen5 launch, in that famous interview.

 

[maddie]

I'd like to report a murder...

I would like to see how the userbenchmark guy is coping? Might be bald by now.