Dude,seriously some games are like that,games like World of Tanks are even worse. Millions of people play these kinds of titles,games like Warcraft,etc. Games like Skyrim - look at the mods community for some of these games?? Its massive. Games like Planetside 2.
They are all lightly threaded - they all hog one or two cores massively. If you have a problem with that - then go onto the forums of these games and then ask people why they have decided to run games which don't use even two to four cores properly.
Bethesda is incompetent. Every game they make is incredibly buggy and runs like ass.The developers are not incompetent. Before the release they never had a chance to get their hands on the CPUs. Most of the games were coded way before the hype has built up around the Zen architecture. It baffles me that people can jump both sides to conclusions, without understanding the great picture they are looking at.
AMD gave few first kits of Ryzen CPUs to optimize the hardware, after the launch.
Its funny on forums these days. Its much easier to jump to conclusions, rather than try to step back and understand what is happening.
Why do you think I don't know that? That is the exact point I am making in my posts. People jumping to conclusions about the uArch WAY too soon.
The fans are also jumping to conclusions way too soon(incompetent developers? what?).
Why do you think Bethesda is incompetent?Bethesda is incompetent.
I wasn't even talking about ryzen there....
Geez I wonder if they know that? You are pimping Ryzen too hard brother.Bethesda is incompetent.
Dude,seriously some games are like that,games like World of Tanks are even worse. Millions of people play these kinds of titles,games like Warcraft,etc. Games like Skyrim - look at the mods community for some of these games?? Its massive. Games like Planetside 2.
They are all lightly threaded - they all hog one or two cores massively. If you have a problem with that - then go onto the forums of these games and then ask people why they have decided to run games which don't use even two to four cores properly.
You have this strange obsession to keep saying only new games are relevant - how many of those new games are single player FPSes,which don't last that long?? BF1 might be an exception but DICE is an exception when it comes to these kind of online games going back to BF2.
All you are doing is jumping on people who don't push your narrative that Ryzen has any weaknesses in gaming,when AMD has contradicted what you have said and gone to games companies and given them kit.
Even your irrational hate for Bethesda has been contradicted by AMD trying to work with them to get Vulkan into their games - AMD knows how popular their games are.
Only you don't seem to understand this.
AMD even has said they need to get better optimisation for Ryzen since many games are coded for Intel CPUs - if you have an issue with that then write to AMD and ask why they mentioned this??
Because in the end on the games forums where those people run the games mentioned,they will start comparing hardware and if Intel does still look better,they will just still buy it,quietly.
It seems that World of Tanks runs just fine:
http://www.pcaxe.com/hardver/procesori/amd-ryzen-1800x-asus-crosshair-vi-hero/strana-17
for the games you listed every modern CPU has plenty of spare power. For practically ALL today's games all the Ryzen or 7700K or 6800-6900K have absolutely no issue when coming to performance.
The "problem" is that someone is hinting that future games would have issues, which is likely not to be the case.
If you want to play ancient games, then buy a used i5.
The beauty of it is that the IPC of Ryzen CPU is on the same level as Broadwell/Haswell. Is it not?You might want to run it during the bigger battles and see how far you get.
This was posted on reddit and some other forums and has had 3million+ views:
http://imgur.com/gallery/mV9bFz7
Its the joke people make about World of Tanks and its optimisations.
You would never say that if you ever played Fallout 4 especially when building settlements,or with mods like War of the Commonwealth - my Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770 with a GTX1080 can hit under 30FPS at times.
Creation is known for being a hog and anybody who plays these games would know this.
So basically you are telling millions of people to not buy an R7 then - own goal.
You might want to run it during the bigger battles and see how far you get.
This was posted on reddit and some other forums and has had 3million+ views:
http://imgur.com/gallery/mV9bFz7
Its the joke people make about World of Tanks and its optimisations.
You would never say that if you ever played Fallout 4 especially when building settlements,or with mods like War of the Commonwealth - my Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770 with a GTX1080 can hit under 30FPS at times.
Creation is known for being a hog and anybody who plays these games would know this.
So basically you are telling millions of people to not buy an R7 then - own goal.
The beauty of it is that the IPC of Ryzen CPU is on the same level as Broadwell/Haswell. Is it not?
WTF does own goal mean!?
Yah, they can buy our used cpus, and we will get Ryzen, and play new games.
Everyone wins.
Ain't that the truth. Gents I've built systems by both companies over the years using both NVidia and ati gpu's and I always get the hardware that suites my needs at the moment. I like many others only want the best performance for our hard earned money and when a company tells us that they can provide us with a certain level of performance we expect to see that performance. In this instance we have not only seen the product fall short in real world testing but have also seen the excuse wall go up for it.You know what is worse - is some of you know how I posted on here and defended AMD so many times - yet the moment anybody tries to point out anything negative you start turning on people.
Wait, what are you saying?Basically you are saying nobody should buy Ryzen for those games - yet AMD said they were working with Bethesda to improve performance in future titles.
Surely,doesn't that indicate to you AMD knows performance is not all there??
If that wasn't the case,why would AMD send out 100s of kits to companies??
Ain't that the truth. Gents I've built systems by both companies over the years using both NVidia and ati gpu's and I always get the hardware that suites my needs at the moment. I like many others only wan the best performance for our hard earned money and when a company tells us that they can provide us with a certain level of performance we expect to see that performance. In this instance we have not only seen the product fall short in real world testing but have also seen the excuse wall go up for it.
The stretching involved to find some valid reason for buying a Ryzen is just too funny to me. I'm not opposed to one for a budget build which is exactly what it would be great for but it isn't the processing powerhouse that AMD led us to believe it was prior to release. Once the cat was out of the bag the excuse machine fired up into full swing along with sympathizers who attack anyone who opposed their skewed reasoning.Its hilarious really,since you see them rush out of the woodwork and get over excited and insinuate anyone who says anything negative about their favourite product is against that company,but on purpose ignore the amount of times people like me had taken on certain other posters who are infamous here on certain claims. They are terrified to actually look through my own posting history since it deflects their view that anybody who criticise Ryzen is against AMD,even when AMD is on record saying performance needs to get better. Yet when it is indicated performance needs to improve,they try to bury it - surely they are not that overexcited to realise even pointing out this might make sense,if AMD catches on that certain titles are worse than others.
Its like in the graphics section - both lots want to hide issues in Nvidia and AMD cardsw
Nope.
Edit!!
It shows the utter problems they have when I was the first person to post the comments about Windows drivers coming in 30 days.
Not any of them. Wee,I hate AMD so I just posted something about performance improvements.
All these people don't understand is that their nature will only mean certain characters on here who have retreated for a while,will come back in full force when the other company releases their stuff.
I don't envy the mods at all.
The stretching involved to find some valid reason for buying a Ryzen is just too funny to me. I'm not opposed to one for a budget build which is exactly what it would be great for but it isn't the processing powerhouse that AMD led us to believe it was prior to release. Once the cat was out of the bag the excuse machine fired up into full swing along with sympathizers who attack anyone who opposed their skewed reasoning.
For my use anyway, Intel doesn't have anything at a price I am willing to pay. I do a lot of modeling and rendering, and Ryzen fits that bill perfectly for me. My gaming is all done at 4k anyway, so the 1080 tests really don't mean a thing for *my* uses. Yours may be different, and good for you. But for me the Ryzen is just right.The stretching involved to find some valid reason for buying a Ryzen is just too funny to me. I'm not opposed to one for a budget build which is exactly what it would be great for but it isn't the processing powerhouse that AMD led us to believe it was prior to release. Once the cat was out of the bag the excuse machine fired up into full swing along with sympathizers who attack anyone who opposed their skewed reasoning.
Witcher3 is one of few games that can use more than 12cores.My theory about the performance of Ryzen in gaming is the following:
- Some games are essentially single threaded like Witcher 3, and in these games Ryzen will have around 30% lower performance than a 7600K because of lower clocks and IPC.
Witcher3 is one of few games that can use more than 12cores.
Ryzen is slower in games that need fast memory bandwidth and low latency like fallout4 and witcher3.
Please link to where AMD said it would be a processing powerhouse. They said 40% increase in IPC over Excavator and actually beat that.The stretching involved to find some valid reason for buying a Ryzen is just too funny to me. I'm not opposed to one for a budget build which is exactly what it would be great for but it isn't the processing powerhouse that AMD led us to believe it was prior to release. Once the cat was out of the bag the excuse machine fired up into full swing along with sympathizers who attack anyone who opposed their skewed reasoning.
In that case you deluded yourself because that was never going to happen.I really wanted the 1800x to be a blazing gun out of the box that slayed its competition in everything sent its way. I'm afraid that the promise of Vega will stumble in the very same way since its based upon the same architecture. At least NVidia dropped the price of the 1080 Ti to a more reasonable level at launch.
You might want to run it during the bigger battles and see how far you get.
This was posted on reddit and some other forums and has had 3million+ views:
http://imgur.com/gallery/mV9bFz7
Its the joke people make about World of Tanks and its optimisations.
You would never say that if you ever played Fallout 4 especially when building settlements,or with mods like War of the Commonwealth - my Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770 with a GTX1080 can hit under 30FPS at times.
Creation is known for being a hog and anybody who plays these games would know this.
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