PotatoWithEarsOnSide
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Athlon 5350 has a very poor IGP. It is soundly beaten by the Intel HD4600, which is also a very poor IGP.How much do you expect from internal graphics in Ryzen?
I am a bit confused that some are satisfied with it for games. I believe it could be an alternative for laptops but not for desktops if you like games (like 99% do).
Most sold GPU in Sweden looks to be GTX 1070 so games are dominating really.
I have a Jaguar Athlon 5350 and I have been running Rise of Tomb Raider with internal GPU and with GTX 1050 Ti. The FPS went from 7 to 45 at 1920x1080 so they are not close!
Definitely go for the 1700. No Ryzen OC past 4.1 ghz without liquid nitrogen. 1700 OC to 3.9 which is close to 1800x's turbo. Also, it bundles with a led coolerLiving next to a Microcenter, I can get the 1700X for $349. But is the 1700 the better choice b/c of it's better thermal headroom?
@4kI want to see more reviews to see if it will hold the same performance in the same games.
MY 1800X has been up and running for 24 hours now and I have some gaming benchmarks comparing it to my old 3570K build, all the tests were done at 2560x1080 I didn't gimp any settings they are what I played at before and how Ryzen compares, I ran tests with SMT on and off for Ryzen but it didn't make much difference. I wish I could test with faster RAM speeds to compare but it won't post past 2400
Ryzen 1800X @4ghz
Asrock Killer SLI 1.62 beta bios
Gskill DDR4 3200 @ 2400 14 14 14 34
Gigabyte 1070 Windforce OC
As you can see for me personally Ryzen was a side-grade for gaming but it doesn't tell the whole story, the new Ryzen build blows away my old cpu in everything aside from gaming. I think Ryzen will spread it wings a bit more when I upgrade my display to 3440x1440
I'm sure I would have been happy with a 7700K where it would of been more an upgrade to gaming but not as much in everything else, it depends on your priorities. The other alternative an X99 platform is laughable the cost of that platform vs the performance against Ryzen is terrible
Ryzen perform bad in those games. As simple. Some desperately need a patch like far cry. But imo also a bad case portfolio for ryzen. Bf1 shows where its going. But granted even after new win sceduler what not we will still have some old engine base games that is slow out the gate.Thanks for taking the time to share this. Sorry it doesn't perform better for these tasks. It makes me really sad to see this to be honest.
Thank you for posting your results for us.MY 1800X has been up and running for 24 hours now and I have some gaming benchmarks comparing it to my old 3570K build, all the tests were done at 2560x1080 I didn't gimp any settings they are what I played at before and how Ryzen compares, I ran tests with SMT on and off for Ryzen but it didn't make much difference. I wish I could test with faster RAM speeds to compare but it won't post past 2400
Ryzen 1800X @4ghz
Asrock Killer SLI 1.62 beta bios
Gskill DDR4 3200 @ 2400 14 14 14 34
Gigabyte 1070 Windforce OC
As you can see for me personally Ryzen was a side-grade for gaming but it doesn't tell the whole story, the new Ryzen build blows away my old cpu in everything aside from gaming. I think Ryzen will spread it wings a bit more when I upgrade my display to 3440x1440
I'm sure I would have been happy with a 7700K where it would of been more an upgrade to gaming but not as much in everything else, it depends on your priorities. The other alternative an X99 platform is laughable the cost of that platform vs the performance against Ryzen is terrible
It's obvious from the CPU utilization that this is not a CPU bottleneck. On the Intel chips all cores are being loaded equally most of the times, whereas the R7 1700 is hardly being utilized.all cpus on 4Ghz.3570k have fast 2Ghz memory.Ryzen have 2800mhz and 6700k also 2800Mhz.
and gta5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kATwMQDGAiQ
Most tech writers who are honest will tell you that there are less gains to be had with cpu software optimizations than with gpu software optimizations. Anyone who expects for the Ryzen's performance to magically increase like a gpu does from a good driver update will be disappointed. I hope that the lessons learned from this will directly translate into the next iteration of this architecture.Ryzen perform bad in those games. As simple. Some desperately need a patch like far cry. But imo also a bad case portfolio for ryzen. Bf1 shows where its going. But granted even after new win sceduler what not we will still have some old engine base games that is slow out the gate.
In bf1 my 1700 at 3.8 2666 ram is more than twice as fast as my prior i5 4.2 1866 for cornercase min. Its plus 100% faster where it really hurts.
7700K looks like it's considerably faster overall, clock for clock, than your 3570K.MY 1800X has been up and running for 24 hours now and I have some gaming benchmarks comparing it to my old 3570K build, all the tests were done at 2560x1080 I didn't gimp any settings they are what I played at before and how Ryzen compares, I ran tests with SMT on and off for Ryzen but it didn't make much difference. I wish I could test with faster RAM speeds to compare but it won't post past 2400
Ryzen 1800X @4ghz
Asrock Killer SLI 1.62 beta bios
Gskill DDR4 3200 @ 2400 14 14 14 34
Gigabyte 1070 Windforce OC
As you can see for me personally Ryzen was a side-grade for gaming but it doesn't tell the whole story, the new Ryzen build blows away my old cpu in everything aside from gaming. I think Ryzen will spread it wings a bit more when I upgrade my display to 3440x1440
I'm sure I would have been happy with a 7700K where it would of been more an upgrade to gaming but not as much in everything else, it depends on your priorities. The other alternative an X99 platform is laughable the cost of that platform vs the performance against Ryzen is terrible
all cpus on 4Ghz.3570k have fast 2Ghz memory.Ryzen have 2800mhz and 6700k also 2800Mhz.
and gta5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kATwMQDGAiQ
lol what?Todays games will newer use all 16cores at max.Whole test is on cpu limit/bottleneck almost whole time.It's obvious from the CPU utilization that this is not a CPU bottleneck. On the Intel chips all cores are being loaded equally most of the times, whereas the R7 1700 is hardly being utilized.
In fact, in certain scenes the R7 1700 is showing half the utilization across all cores when compared to the i7 6700K.
If games cannot use 16 threads evenly, then it is an issue with the game not the CPU. When your CPU barely breaks 25% usage in Fallout 4, then it does not mean that it is a bottleneck in Fallout 4 - it means that Fallout 4 is crap at utilizing multiple cores, at least when it comes to the Ryzen cores.lol what?Todays games will newer use all 16cores at max.Whole test is on cpu limit/bottleneck almost whole time.
Thats why 6700k is there 40-80% faster than 3570k
I might be crazy, but when I turned off SMT last night I'm fairly certain my BF1 FPS increased. I'll have to try again though as I didn't have much time.Bf1 issues 10 threads as i recall.