Thank you for your reply!Athlon 5350 has a very poor IGP. It is soundly beaten by the Intel HD4600, which is also a very poor IGP.
Intel's latest IGP HD530/630 is much better than HD4600
AMD's current top end IGP's are pretty good.
RyZen IGP will likely be much better than anything in these charts, and about 20X better than an Athlon 5350.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7933/the-desktop-kabini-review-part-1-athlon-5350-am1/6
It's called cycles per instruction look it up.There is no such thing as gaming IPC. If it can perform in benchmarks, then it can do it in games too. It will just take time for optimizations to happen.
Yes, typo's are very important...1800x seen at amazon for $425 this morning from a 3rd party seller.
It's called cycles per instruction look it up.
In benches it doesn't matter, it's like dave's example, the bench doesn't care if it get's 10 or 2x5 instructions done in 1ms the result is the same.
Not a typo brother and it sold quickly.Yes, typo's are very important...
I guess I made a bad assumption. You really don't know anything.
Yah, because you have insider amazon 3rd party info... Pathetic.Not a typo brother and it sold quickly.
Yea, a really fair test. Ryzen overclocked pretty much as high as it can go vs underclocked KL.It isn't really a test against the 7700k. It is a test against the SL/KL, core for core, thread for thread, and clock for clock. The result: an 7.9% advantage on average to SL/KL.
Of course, Ryzen and SL/KL are never really competing on those terms. Ryzen will generally have more cores and threads against a comparable priced SL/KL. And SL/KL will be clocked higher.
There is no such thing as gaming IPC. If it can perform in benchmarks, then it can do it in games too. It will just take time for optimizations to happen. There has never been a brand new architecture come out and work flawlessly on day one. It's impossible.
What the hell is wrong with you? I saw the price posted and it was a valid amazon price so I put it here so anyone who wanted one could take advantage of it. I don't control their inventory dude so when they sell out they no longer show as available. You have serious issues buddy and it sounds like anger management classes might be in order.Yah, because you have insider amazon 3rd party info... Pathetic.
Yea, a really fair test. Ryzen overclocked pretty much as high as it can go vs underclocked KL.
Just because a price is visible on Amazon, doesn't mean it's valid. There have been many occurrences of Amazon displaying a price incorrectly and they never fulfill orders at that price. The item no longer available isn't an indication of it selling out fast either, they could have simply removed it due to being the wrong price.What the hell is wrong with you? I saw the price posted and it was a valid amazon price so I put it here so anyone who wanted one could take advantage of it. I don't control their inventory dude so when they sell out they no longer show as available. You have serious issues buddy and it sounds like anger management classes might be in order.
Are you Trolling or what ??
The comparison was
1. Clock to Clock
2. Core/Threads to Core/Threads
3. Same RAM speed
And you calling it not fair ?? read again, it wasnt comparing the Core i7 7700K but the architecture (Kabylake).
It doesnt getting more fair than this.
They should at least have included both at stock and both overclocked. I understand what they are doing, but it doesnt tell the complete story. As far a trolling, if one looked it up in the dictionary, it would probably say "see any one of about 70% of the threads in the Anand Tech (AMD zone) Ryzen threads.Are you Trolling or what ??
The comparison was
1. Clock to Clock
2. Core/Threads to Core/Threads
3. Same RAM speed
And you calling it not fair ?? read again, it wasnt comparing the Core i7 7700K but the architecture (Kabylake).
It doesnt getting more fair than this.
True in the specific context of gaming and enthusiast use, but in server space such comparisons will be more meaningful, especially with power being tied to frequency.Clock for clock is only meaningful if your designs have the same frequency potential.
Kaby Lake has significantly greater frequency potential than Zen does at this point in time (+25% or so).
It was clearly just an experiment...Clock for clock is only meaningful if your designs have the same frequency potential.
Kaby Lake has significantly greater frequency potential than Zen does at this point in time (+25% or so).
Clock for clock is only meaningful if your designs have the same frequency potential.
Kaby Lake has significantly greater frequency potential than Zen does at this point in time (+25% or so).
True in the specific context of gaming and enthusiast use, but in server space such comparisons will be more meaningful, especially with power being tied to frequency.
These guys reduced the Ryzen to just 4 cores to better test it against a 7700K, a bit backwards, but interesting results... and more importantly 4 core Ryzen should be first cheap!
http://www.zolkorn.com/en/amd-ryzen...i7-7700k-mhz-by-mhz-core-by-core-en/view-all/
I would disagree here. It is a meaningful data point. Not all encompassing, but both valid and interesting as well. Just like low res gaming is just one data point. Also not all encompassing, but valid and interesting. Either of those data points may or may not be *useful* to you, and your use case. But, that is for the potential buyer to evaluate, based on their needs.Clock for clock is only meaningful if your designs have the same frequency potential.
Kaby Lake has significantly greater frequency potential than Zen does at this point in time (+25% or so).
I haven't seen the graphs, but from what I have seen, the figures should be pretty close down at the speeds most servers chips run. A little OT though, so pardon the digression.Power does go up on a given design as frequency/voltage scale up, but it looks like Intel's V/F curve on Kaby Lake is much better than Zen's for the most part. Voltage and frequency aren't the only factors in power consumption, though, capacitance is a factor too.
Interesting. The 7700k has better fps in that first clip, but it also has mucg better gpu utilization. However, the ryzen cpu is nowhere near maxed out on any given core.
Apparently another underclocked intel vs overclocked Ryzen test. People must look really hard to dig these up.