I think a lot of folks have this thing kind of backwards. Ryzen isn't the best gaming CPU (that title goes to the 7700k). Ryzen isn't the best workstation CPU either, though it comes very close. That remains the 6900k and 6950k.
What Ryzen is, is a way to split the difference. A way to get workstation performance from a relatively inexpensive CPU, one that can still game effectively. And gaming performance is likely to improve in the near-to-mid term, with some updates to Windows scheduling (specifically to avoid unnecessary cross-CCX communication), along with the slow trend of increased multi-threading anyway.
Intel's products are the specialist CPUs. Ryzen is more of a general-use CPU. It's a very good general purpose chip, too.
Looking down I have my scorecard something like this
First round, efficiency: Undisputed King
Second round, productivity : competetive at a much lower price point. A clear win.
Third round, gaming : Somewhat behind, a clear loss here. May change in time.
Fourth round, maturity : Betaish. A clear loss. Will change in time.
How often do people have to tell this over and over?No <redacted> Sherlock. 20% utilisation of 16 threads is 3.2 threads @100%; long live the Pentium according to your BS.
The point was that the game is barely even using one fully, yet still wants to shuffle threads all over the place. It is this needless shuffling that is handicapping Ryzen. <redacted> needs to be optimised to make best use of Ryzen.
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As i can tell from the spec in the batman video 4x4GB is used with spec c17 2800.System details won't tell me motherboard firmware version used, firmware settings and chipset drivers used.
ANY reviewer trying to do a compelling job WILL include that information always.
At this point in time, those little details are making all the difference for AM4 .
Or have you even stopped to think on why the ryzen reviews show results all over the place? Have you even analyzed the numbers and try to figure out why?
As quick example, not a single reviewer has posted version of chipset drivers used! If you truly have built an AM4 system you should already know that there a quite a few things that the chipset drivers are installing.
That is, however, if the video included system settings.
This last one you posted doesn't include them. All it does is show video settings. No system settings at all in the video, so I'll assume OEM A320 board, dd4-2133 cl18.
Good but i was under the impression the big gameengines always controlled the scheduling anyway?*cough*
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maybe i should report you for trollingMore 2133 ram bm spamming. It might even run 1866.
Therefore useless game benchmarks.
Borders on trolling imo that you keep spamming those youtube bm here knowing pretty well the bm is not representative due to the low ram setting. All that anger. So then its okey to mislead people?
maybe i should report you for trolling
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Listing RAM doesn't really mean anything. What it's actually running at is what counts. As mentioned by @unseenmorbidity , running at 4 RAM sticks that are DR means he was at most 2133, possibly even 1866 speed for that RAM.RAM: ADATA 16GB KIT (4x4GB) DDR4 2800MHz CL17 PC4-22400 XPG Z1
Well i explained him that pages back.Listing RAM doesn't really mean anything. What it's actually running at is what counts. As mentioned by @unseenmorbidity , running at 4 RAM sticks that are DR means he was at most 2133, possibly even 1866 speed for that RAM.
Meh, really nothing new there from DF compared to what we've seen from reviewers already.
Once again putting up random unsubstantiated videos showing ryzen is struggling in gaming, i take it this is your sole agenda here then?, why dont you balance it out and show titles that ryzen does well in? Or perhaps try and objectively disect what issues are holding ryzen up, whether that be hardware or software? I think we already know the answer dont we?.
You mean like a certain AMD fan posts nothing but BF1 "benchmarks" (actually his own unsubstantiated observations) over and over and over again?Once again putting up random unsubstantiated videos showing ryzen is struggling in gaming, i take it this is your sole agenda here then?, why dont you balance it out and show titles that ryzen does well in? Or perhaps try and objectively disect what issues are holding ryzen up, whether that be hardware or software? I think we already know the answer dont we?.
What is the test setup? What speed ram? Only thing i can take is that most games prefer 4 fast threads, as spreading load doesnt seem to increase performance much, just lowers utilisation and presumably power consumption.
Once we see true dx12 engines and faster ram support things should look more favorable for ryzen, as it is intel obviously has a lead here, i expect you to continue to keep posting random ryzen fail videos like this and really not try to contibute anything new to the discussion, i might be wrong though.