Thanks for the suggestions, sadly I already sold my i5 3570k, so I can't make another comparison.May I recommend some safer ways to benchmark?
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Thanks for the suggestions, sadly I already sold my i5 3570k, so I can't make another comparison.May I recommend some safer ways to benchmark?
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You also said most 1700s will do 4ghz. He was referring to that statement I believe.Please read what I said. Ryzen is great at all BUT gaming (meaning productivity) LIKE the Intel 8/10 core chips, but cheaper. And at gaming it does just fine.
I totally forgot about Silicon Lottery, you reminded me to take a look againYou also said most 1700s will do 4ghz. He was referring to that statement I believe.
Edit: according to Silicon lottery, 23% of 1700, 33% of 1700x , and 67% of 1800x will reach 4.0 ghz, so apparently the higher priced models are clearly better binned.
I dont know if i am answering to a troll here but since you insisted you have seen zen as two dies with your naked eye i think you are just rambling a bit.Looking at Vorez's testing the OC'd 1700 fares very well against all offerings for the most part until we get to FP measurements where Ryzen seems to fall well back from its Intel counterparts. Even so it is a strong showing from AMD and I hope that they will strengthen the FPU's in later iterations of the chips to bolster FPU performance. Here again I must refer back to when they released the original slot a Athlon as their fpu was the strongest available. Intel has stumbled in recent years in their overall market performance so it will be interesting to see how this all pans out for us consumers.
I was mistaken when I looked at that die that didn't have the solder cleared off it. One thing is for certain: I've build more AMD pc's than Intel but I am not a fanboy of anything but technology and performance and I don't care what company delivers it.I dont know if i am answering to a troll here but since you insisted you have seen zen as two dies with your naked eye i think you are just rambling a bit.
Fairenough.I was mistaken when I looked at that die that didn't have the solder cleared off it. One thing is for certain: I've build more AMD pc's than Intel but I am not a fanboy of anything but technology and performance and I don't care what company delivers it.
The best workstation would probably be an old dual socket Xeon setup.I think a lot of folks have this thing kind of backwards. Ryzen isn't the best gaming CPU (that title goes to the 7700k). Ryzen isn't the best workstation CPU either, though it comes very close. That remains the 6900k and 6950k.
What Ryzen is, is a way to split the difference. A way to get workstation performance from a relatively inexpensive CPU, one that can still game effectively. And gaming performance is likely to improve in the near-to-mid term, with some updates to Windows scheduling (specifically to avoid unnecessary cross-CCX communication), along with the slow trend of increased multi-threading anyway.
Intel's products are the specialist CPUs. Ryzen is more of a general-use CPU. It's a very good general purpose chip, too.
Intel's products are the specialist CPUs. Ryzen is more of a general-use CPU. It's a very good general purpose chip, too.
The best workstation would probably be an old dual socket Xeon setup.
As far as the "best" gaming CPU, there really isn't one atm. It depends on the rest of your components, and what game you play.
If you don't have a $500+ GPU, it probably doesn't matter. If you do have a $500 GPU, and you don't play at 1080p, then it probably doesn't matter.
But, even at 1080p with an enthusiast GPU it still depends on what games you play.
For instance, computerbase.de shows the 6900k is the best here.
That is what all the benchmarks he post show. It's the same story over and over. The 7700k is ahead in FPS, because the GPU is being underutilized on Ryzen, despite the fact there isn't a single CPU core maxed out.Why doesn't the 1700 or the 1070 ever consistently utilise above 90% on either? Surely that is the point of benchmarking?
For me, there is performance left on the table that for some reason is incapbale of being utilised in gaming. For example, one of those games saw the 1700 @ 20% utilisation throughout, though only 1 thread was consistently above 50%, let alone 90%.
I just don't get what is going on.
Because games dont use 16cores omg?Why doesn't the 1700 or the 1070 ever consistently utilise above 90% on either? Surely that is the point of benchmarking?
For me, there is performance left on the table that for some reason is incapbale of being utilised in gaming. For example, one of those games saw the 1700 @ 20% utilisation throughout, though only 1 thread was consistently above 50%, let alone 90%.
I just don't get what is going on.
Not my video you troll.Btw you should try click to expand to show system details next time.Are you just trolling for clicks?
Wee need to know the ryzen system details!
I am buying it primarily for gaming, because it will be a better long term investment than a 7700k. I suspect this cpu will last 5 years or more, and then I will upgrade to the last am4 cpu.
I've been saying the same thing.
Ryzen is the only processor that's 90% of a 7700K (in gaming) and 90% of a 6900K (in other stuff) for less than $1000. And Ryzen is actually less than half that!
That doesn't mean it's the chip for everyone. But it certainly means it's the chip for me.
Not my video you troll.Btw you should try click to expand to show system details next time.
I am really losing patience with this forum with full of AMD fans
I am really losing patience with this forum with full of AMD fans
No <redacted> Sherlock. 20% utilisation of 16 threads is 3.2 threads @100%; long live the Pentium according to your BS.Because games dont use 16cores omg?
No shit Sherlock. 20% utilisation of 16 threads is 3.2 threads @100%; long live the Pentium according to your BS.
The point was that the game is barely even using one fully, yet still wants to shuffle threads all over the place. It is this needless shuffling that is handicapping Ryzen. Shit needs to be optimised to make best use of Ryzen.