Question Ryzen Master What a Disaster

[Rinzler]

Mistakenly installed this on my Win 7 PC running a Ryzen 7 2700 (non X)

After installation (which yielded no stop/warning message indicating it was not compatible) it began to launch and immediately blue screened, upon restart windows crashed and rebooted. After some fiddling I managed to remove ryzen Master and windows then began to boot up normally.

However my cpu jumps from 15X multiplier, all the way up to around 37. Voltage is very erratic bouncing wildly from 0.7 to 1.4

I updated and flashed the bios (gigabyte 450M board)

No effect, should I simply RMA the CPU?

Anything else to try?

 

[chrisjames61]

Best post ever LOL, I love that song, so damn catchy even 20 years after.

P.S. and Ryzen Master is a disaster even in supported configuration, i'd use it to check memory timings only, I has lightyear ahead of it.

I don't know. Lots of Ryzen overclockers use it and like it.

 

[JWade]

I have used ryzen master, havent had any issues with it.

 

[Tsavo]

I installed Ryzen Master on my old P4/XP box and poof! I got 7 more cores and 14 more threads for free!

This is way better than SoftRAM95 and free, too!

 

[Shmee]

I use it mainly for monitoring. Anyway, I prefer to do most changes to UEFI/BIOS in the UEFI/BIOS.

 

[blckgrffn]

I use it mainly for monitoring. Anyway, I prefer to do most changes to UEFI/BIOS in the UEFI/BIOS.

Same here. I don't intend to ever use it to tweak anything, just for observation.

 

[lobz]

Sorry i hurt your feelings, you seem hell bent on simply assigning blame and have not added anything of any value. Again why post at all?

The VERY first word I posted in this thread is MISTAKENLY...is it not?

I made a mistake, I conceded that off the bat. And I also conceeded there is documentation stating compatibility.

However the average user new to Ryzen or not up on all things Hardware may not be aware and there needs to be a safeguard in place that costs AMD literally nothing.

Anyway all of that is not the focus. Please do not post unless you have a positive contribution.

No. You mistakenly installed Windows 7 on a Ryzen system. Every other thing you make after that, you can't blame it on AMD. I mean, you can, but this is not wccftech or r/amdead or other echo chambers. You also can't bash intel senselessly either, so either sush your vanity and be thankful that such a place as this still exists, or just continue wiht this desperate charade and expect nothing but more of the same.

"However the average user new to Ryzen or not up on all things Hardware may not be aware and there needs to be a safeguard in place that costs AMD literally nothing. " -> now that is just surreal. Might as well put safety sensors into microwaves so they won't switch on when the average user doesn't read the documentation and puts a living cat into it to dry.

 

[lobz]

Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards. – Vern Law

Ar least you learned something from this mistake though.

He did. Blame AMD and RMA the CPU that did nothing wrong.

 

[13Gigatons]

I kinda of agree....I don't like Software running on top of Windows making changes to the BIOS. Previously had a bad experience with Motherboard software that controlled some Fan settings.

After this thread and others I will continue making changes in the BIOS...even though it can be inconvenient at times.

 

[chrisjames61]

I kinda of agree....I don't like Software running on top of Windows making changes to the BIOS. Previously had a bad experience with Motherboard software that controlled some Fan settings.

After this thread and others I will continue making changes in the BIOS...even though it can be inconvenient at times.

That isn't the point. He is running an unsupported OS for his hardware and then added another unsupported piece of software into the mix and then blames others for having problems he clearly created himself.

 

[Iron Woode]

The B450 does support win7. I know this because my B450 does. However, AMD power profiles don't work on it and other issues can result due to iffy support.

I would not recommend running Win7 at all. I was surprised that win 8.1 wasn't supported when I built my HTPC last year.

 

[lobz]

The B450 does support win7. I know this because my B450 does. However, AMD power profiles don't work on it and other issues can result due to iffy support.

I would not recommend running Win7 at all. I was surprised that win 8.1 wasn't supported when I built my HTPC last year.

While that might be a confusing gimmick on your B450's side, none of the CPUs support it that you can use with that B450.

 

[Iron Woode]

While that might be a confusing gimmick on your B450's side, none of the CPUs support it that you can use with that B450.

from Asrock:

Matisse, Picasso & Raven Ridge CPU supports Microsoft® Windows® 10 64-bit only

It seems some CPUs do support Win7 64bit - summit ridge and pinnacle ridge

 

[chrisjames61]

The B450 does support win7. I know this because my B450 does. However, AMD power profiles don't work on it and other issues can result due to iffy support.

I would not recommend running Win7 at all. I was surprised that win 8.1 wasn't supported when I built my HTPC last year.

I don't think Ryzen cpu's had Windows 7 support from day one. Don't know about any specific motherboards. I use Linux and OSX anyway.

 

[Thunder 57]

from Asrock:


It seems some CPUs do support Win7 64bit - summit ridge and pinnacle ridge

Check any of their motherboard specs, they all say Windows 10. Windows 7 is unofficially supported, and it shouldn't be used with any Zen CPU. Also, where is the source of that quote? How about drivers? Ever see a section for Windows 7? I haven't.

 

[lobz]

from Asrock:


It seems some CPUs do support Win7 64bit - summit ridge and pinnacle ridge

they absolutely do not

(I know they do work - why wouldn't they - and there are workarounds, but it's not supported by AMD)

 

[Iron Woode]

Check any of their motherboard specs, they all say Windows 10. Windows 7 is unofficially supported, and it shouldn't be used with any Zen CPU. Also, where is the source of that quote? How about drivers? Ever see a section for Windows 7? I haven't.

ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 2000, 3000, 4000 G-Series, 5000 and 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors; Supports DDR4 3466+ (OC); 1 PCIe 3.0 x16; Graphics Output: DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 2.0; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec), Supports Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5; 4 SATA3, 1 Ultra...

www.asrock.com

choose win7 64bit

 

[Iron Woode]

they absolutely do not

(I know they do work - why wouldn't they - and there are workarounds, but it's not supported by AMD)

I do agree about not using win7 with them. I was just pointing out that you sort can if you want to risk it.

 

[Thunder 57]

ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 2000, 3000, 4000 G-Series, 5000 and 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors; Supports DDR4 3466+ (OC); 1 PCIe 3.0 x16; Graphics Output: DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 2.0; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec), Supports Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5; 4 SATA3, 1 Ultra...

www.asrock.com

choose win7 64bit

Fine, I can do an eek too.

How would you respond to this? Not officially supported.

AMD's formal position on Windows 7 on Ryzen is that it is unsupported, and as a result this means they will not provide support around it

.

 

[Iron Woode]

Fine, I can do an eek too.

How would you respond to this? Not officially supported.

.

I responded to lobz about how I feel about using Ryzen with Win7.

My advice is don't do it. I am not saying anyone should do it. I just said some boards support doing it with specific cpu's. I don't recommend it.

 

[RetroZombie]

Just want to say this i have friends that hate windows 10 so they installed windows 7 and 8.1 on their computers with their ryzen cpus.
According to them 100% stable and functional. Zero issue, no blue screens, lockups, errors, ...

 

[13Gigatons]

That isn't the point. He is running an unsupported OS for his hardware and then added another unsupported piece of software into the mix and then blames others for having problems he clearly created himself.

I understand what the OP did wrong. I was just commenting about running software that tweaks the BIOS.

 

[chrisjames61]

Ignore this lol!

 

[chrisjames61]

I understand what the OP did wrong. I was just commenting about running software that tweaks the BIOS.

I hear you.

 

[lobz]

Ignore this lol!

don't boss us around

 

[beginner99]

Man you guys are giving this guy a pretty big amount of negative attitude. Yeah one should read the "bold print" about it being win 10 only and such. But the guy has a point. Having the installer detect the OS and abort install if not Win 10 isn't exactly magic. Any half competent programmer should be able to do it with with couple lines of code (getVersion + if/else).
If the software can nearly brick your computer if installed on wrong OS, making it hard to impossible to install on wrong OS is for sure not asking too much from the supplier.

I haven't known about ryzen master messing with the BIOS that hard. When I did RAM OC on my ryzen build for almost every failed attempt I had to reflash the bios. Guess I now finally know why.