This is a sensible argument. However, we're talking about Windows 10. I don't want someone else deciding what OS I can or cannot use, and this is particularly true if the concerned OS is Windows 10.I have no idea why superstition is jabbering about logical fallacies, 7 is an old dog compared to 10, and if you are buying brand spanking new hardware from 2017 why are you hobbling it with 2009 era software? Match the vintage of hardware to software. Knowingly choosing old crap makes no sense.
People like to use reliable older stuff all the time, especially if old one is rock stable and gives you the complete control. And it runs all the apps that 10 does, except ones from the "Store"I have no idea why superstition is jabbering about logical fallacies, 7 is an old dog compared to 10, and if you are buying brand spanking new hardware from 2017 why are you hobbling it with 2009 era software? Match the vintage of hardware to software. Knowingly choosing old crap makes no sense.
I still would take win 7 in a heartbeat over win 10. I only let MS "upgrade" me to win 10 for DX 12, and I still havent played a DX 12 game yet. Less intrusive, nicer interface, fewer bugs, and doesn't send you to the Windows store for every app. Why did you bring this up? I had almost forgotten how much I hate win 10!!!!People like to use reliable older stuff all the time, especially if old one is rock stable and gives you the complete control. And it runs all the apps that 10 does, except ones from the "Store"
From your standpoint of view, you are failing to see how tricky would be for large organizations to move to Windows 10 if they have lots of Win 7 machines. And Win 7 is being supported 3 more years.
Kaby Lake already works fine on Windows 7, and despite claiming "non support", Intel have already released a Win 7 driver for the HD 610/630 iGPU (21.20.16.4526 WHQL), which is the only thing "CPU specifc" (motherboard drivers for 100/200 series chipset, audio, LAN, Wi-Fi, etc, are already there due to Skylake). If Ryzen follows suit then W10 Fanboy Forum Warrior (tm) rage aside, increased consumer choice is never a bad thing.
People like to use reliable older stuff all the time, especially if old one is rock stable and gives you the complete control. And it runs all the apps that 10 does, except ones from the "Store"
From your standpoint of view, you are failing to see how tricky would be for large organizations to move to Windows 10 if they have lots of Win 7 machines. And Win 7 is being supported 3 more years.
Believe me, I have used both Win 7 and Win 10, and had several bugs in Win 10 that I never had in Win 7.Older doesn't necessarily mean reliable. It means its old crap that may or may not be reliable. Large organizations using 7 should be updating to 10 now anyway as it will likely take them three years to properly deploy 10. Plus with 10 you get rolling updates so in theory you shouldn't be left behind on an older OS for years. Or decades.
Believe me, I have used both Win 7 and Win 10, and had several bugs in Win 10 that I never had in Win 7.
Older doesn't necessarily mean reliable. It means its old crap that may or may not be reliable.
Yeah, I recently encountered a fairly serious bug in patched Win10 64-bit 1607: My Adata UV128 Yellow 16GB flash drives are not recognized. "Code 10" in device manager. On the same machine, dual-booted into Win7 64-bit, NO PROBLEMS.Believe me, I have used both Win 7 and Win 10, and had several bugs in Win 10 that I never had in Win 7.
No, everyone is excited about iPhones The "significant majority" we were discussing don't really get excited about computers at all, they just buy a new one if the old one breaks.
How many more years is Windows 7 still supposed to be supported? Bulldozer came out in 2011. If MS can't bother to support current CPUs on an OS that is promised to be supported for many years after the CPUs are released that's extremely poor.
Yet another reason to move to Linux. Let Microsoft say whatever it likes while the rest of us stop having to put up with bad policy.
I see. I was told otherwise. It's good to know that they at least did that.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3167...-no-official-ryzen-drivers-for-windows-7.htmlAMD won’t be providing Windows 7 drivers for its upcoming Ryzen processors, the company said, contradicting recent reports that indicated AMD would support Microsoft’s older operating system.
AMD confirmed that it has tested and validated Ryzen on Windows 7, but that it won’t officially support the OS. It puts to rest the suggestion of a recent translated report from Computerbase that AMD would reverse its stance and ship Windows 7 drivers for Ryzen.
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At this point, AMD apparently has “verified” that a Windows 7 PC powered by Ryzen may indeed boot. But will it take advantage of all of Ryzen’s capabilities? That seems less likely. Consider: Gamers are always seeking the most up-to-date GPU drivers to eke out the last little bit of performance from their graphics card. A Ryzen desktop won’t have to worry about properly supporting the sleep states that a notebook might, but there’s still a decent chance of something breaking.
Unfortunately, now that AMD has clarified its position, gamers remain at a crossroads: Upgrading a Windows 7 PC with a Ryzen CPU—but without proper drivers—seems like cutting off one’s nose to spite Microsoft’s face.
Pretty much what I thought.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3167...-no-official-ryzen-drivers-for-windows-7.html
Windows 7 was finished product on its release, and it was free of major issues. Really only complaint about it is its age. We can't say same for Windows 10. RTM v.10240 was awful.
That's what tends to happen when you try to save money by having minimal QA staffWin7 also had a free open beta period for nearly a year, to get the kinks out. Win10, has the "preview ring", for Insiders, but it doesn't seem to work as well for MS, as the "feature updates" to Win10 seem to be perpetually in beta as well.
W10 is malware. I now get bombarded with actual MS popups asking me to setup MS one drive. 7 also supports more SW/HW configurations than 10 does. I can no longer use of my USB adapters, which works fine on 7, with 10. You're hobbling yourself by going to 10, not sticking with 7.I have no idea why superstition is jabbering about logical fallacies, 7 is an old dog compared to 10, and if you are buying brand spanking new hardware from 2017 why are you hobbling it with 2009 era software? Match the vintage of hardware to software. Knowingly choosing old crap makes no sense.
If there are no working Win10 drivers for your hardware, it is not the fault of MS.W10 is malware. I now get bombarded with actual MS popups asking me to setup MS one drive. 7 also supports more SW/HW configurations than 10 does. I can no longer use of my USB adapters, which works fine on 7, with 10. You're hobbling yourself by going to 10, not sticking with 7.