S-video vs Component Input

Yzzim

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Is the quality really noticable? I'm talking about the Component Input which has the red, green, and blue inputs. Not the RCA standard components.

I'm looking at a couple TVs which only have S-Video input and was wondering if it'd be worth the money upgrading to component.

This isn't going to be a HDTV that I'm buying, but rather a small 20" to maybe 27" as seen in this thread.
 

Viper GTS

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My 27" Wega has component inputs, & since I have them I use them.

However...

The difference between component & s-video on such a small TV is minimal. I can see a difference, but there isn't much of one.

The difference between composite & s-video, however, is astounding.

Viper GTS
 

vetteguy

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Component is really used for when you're displaying HDTV/progressive signals. I don't think s-video can output progressive, but I could be wrong. On a 20" screen you probably won't notice the difference (unless it's an FD Trinitron). Also, I don't know of many TVs that small which do component (well, I'm sure there are 27" ones that do, but probably none smaller). S-video is a bare minimum if you want to watch DVDs or video games with any kind of picture quality.
 

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Originally posted by: vetteguy
Component is really used for when you're displaying HDTV/progressive signals. I don't think s-video can output progressive, but I could be wrong. On a 20" screen you probably won't notice the difference (unless it's an FD Trinitron). Also, I don't know of many TVs that small which do component (well, I'm sure there are 27" ones that do, but probably none smaller). S-video is a bare minimum if you want to watch DVDs or video games with any kind of picture quality.

There are a few 20" flat CRT's out there with component inputs, but it's honestly wasted on such a small screen.

There are plenty of 27's though.

Viper GTS
 

Yzzim

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There's a handful of 20" tvs that have component input, but they are expensive (Toshiba, Sony).

Composite (couldn't think of it earlier) is what I'm using right now for my games and my dvds. Definitely time for an upgrade. Just not sure which TV yet.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
There's a handful of 20" tvs that have component input, but they are expensive (Toshiba, Sony).

Composite (couldn't think of it earlier) is what I'm using right now for my games and my dvds. Definitely time for an upgrade. Just not sure which TV yet.

Good lord, if you're currently using composite s-video will seem like a miracle.

I wouldn't worry about component, but if you end up with one that has it you might as well use it.

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Since you're currently stuck with composite at the moment, and you're upgrading anyways, go for it. Nothing like crystal clear images.

- M4H
 

mpitts

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I have a 57" Widescreen rear projection TV and I use the component inputs for my progressive scan DVD player.

It makes a world of difference on a TV like mine.

On a 27" TV, the difference between S-Video and Component is there, but it is not THAT much of a difference.
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Since you're currently stuck with composite at the moment, and you're upgrading anyways, go for it. Nothing like crystal clear images.

- M4H

The difference in price though is about $80. Granted, with that $80 I get a digital comb filter, component input, shadow mask (I believe) among a few other things.
 

Hoober

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Going from composite to component is a huge difference. I bought my 32" WEGA for the component inputs. It makes an incredible difference on DVDs and other high output formats.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Since you're currently stuck with composite at the moment, and you're upgrading anyways, go for it. Nothing like crystal clear images.

- M4H

The difference in price though is about $80. Granted, with that $80 I get a digital comb filter, component input, shadow mask (I believe) among a few other things.

Keep in mind that anything coming in on the component inputs will not use the comb filter. So unless you watch a lot of broadcast TV you won't be using the comb filter anyway.

Viper GTS
 

Yzzim

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ah, so that would explain why that Apex 20" TV looks so good at Wal-Mart with a DVD hooked up to it.

It has s-video in and like 3 sets of composite in. Even has composite out so I can hook my stereo up to with without the need for a reciever.

Think that's a decent deal for $168? I know that Akai is a great deal at Sams, but A) I don't have a membership, and B) That's $100 more than this Apex and that's like a month worth of meals.

That Apex has no digital comb filter.
 

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Since you're currently stuck with composite at the moment, and you're upgrading anyways, go for it. Nothing like crystal clear images.

- M4H

The difference in price though is about $80. Granted, with that $80 I get a digital comb filter, component input, shadow mask (I believe) among a few other things.

invar shadow mask is the tube type... theres only 2, shadow mask and aperature grille (trinitron)
 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Is the quality really noticable? I'm talking about the Component Input which has the red, green, and blue inputs. Not the RCA standard components.

I'm looking at a couple TVs which only have S-Video input and was wondering if it'd be worth the money upgrading to component.

This isn't going to be a HDTV that I'm buying, but rather a small 20" to maybe 27" as seen in this thread.

For future reference, Component is 3 parts. Red-Green Red-Blue and contrast (black and white)

S Video has Color and contrast in 2 seperate parts

Composite is everything together in 1.
 

MichaelD

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If you please, I'd like to throw this in here. IMO, and based on about 15 years of being "into HT" (not necessarily being able to afford the good stuff though)

1. Anything smaller than a 25" is called a "computer monitor" and you really don't need to worry about S-video vs. Component. Yeah, component is best, but you won't see a damn bit of difference.

2. Larger CRTs (32-40 inchers) There is a 100% difference b/t composite and S-video. There's about a 50% difference b/t S-video and component.

3. A cheapie smaller TV will look 109x better than the most expensive TV on the market if it is calibrated correctly! and the big TV isn't/.


Calibration is very important. 100% of all consumer-grade TVs (yes, even my beloved XBR 800 WEGA) are setup incorrectly from the factory. You need a test disc, like the one I linked to in order to properly set it up.

A buddy of mine has a cheapo 36" Sharp CRT w/component inputs. He is not a videophile/audiophile by any stretch of the words. His TV is setup with the white balance cranked almost to max and the sharpness cranked as well. It looks like you know what.

My TV has S-video only inputs. No component. But I've calibrated my set using the disc I linked to, above. It looks damn good. Not as sharp as a good, calibrated set using components would look, but damn good.

I'll hazard a guess and say that 99% of you that only watch DVDs on your PC's monitor cannot tell the diff b/t S-video and component video inputs, using the same DVD on the same TV.

Most folks that are "into" HT can, however. I wish I could afford my XBR.
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Repeat after me, Panasonic Tau or Toshiba and CostCo is good

Oooooooh Rossman's been lookin' around!!!!! *me goes to check things out.*
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Repeat after me, Panasonic Tau or Toshiba and CostCo is good

Oooooooh Rossman's been lookin' around!!!!! *me goes to check things out.*

You gotta visit CostCo at least once a week because their merchandise rotates frequently. Of course I always hit the computer/electronics sections first
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Repeat after me, Panasonic Tau or Toshiba and CostCo is good

No CostCo in southwest Minnesota

Ok then try Sam's Club or Best Buy or Sears (which sometimes price matches against websites - potential for huge savings).
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Repeat after me, Panasonic Tau or Toshiba and CostCo is good

No CostCo in southwest Minnesota

Ok then try Sam's Club or Best Buy or Sears (which sometimes price matches against websites - potential for huge savings).

I was just at Best Buy and Sears yesterday.

What website do I pricematch to?
 

ScottyB

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My tv only has two of the three component plug-ins, am I supposed to just put those two in or those two plus another cord?
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Repeat after me, Panasonic Tau or Toshiba and CostCo is good

No CostCo in southwest Minnesota

Ok then try Sam's Club or Best Buy or Sears (which sometimes price matches against websites - potential for huge savings).

I was just at Best Buy and Sears yesterday.

What website do I pricematch to?

I think Ornery might know of a few, just tell him that you LOVE gas guzzling, domestic, RWD V8 vehicles and he'll spill his secrets
 

AaronP

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in my experience, on my 32 inch TV between component and s-vid, I can't tell a difference, on my 53 inch RPTV, I can. I look at it like this, on a scale of quality, composite is like a 2, svideo is like a 8 and component is a 9. As long as you're not using a composite connection, you're good.
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Repeat after me, Panasonic Tau or Toshiba and CostCo is good

No CostCo in southwest Minnesota

Ok then try Sam's Club or Best Buy or Sears (which sometimes price matches against websites - potential for huge savings).

I was just at Best Buy and Sears yesterday.

What website do I pricematch to?

I think Ornery might know of a few, just tell him that you LOVE gas guzzling, domestic, RWD V8 vehicles and he'll spill his secrets

I'm so confused but I'll PM him anyway.
 
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