PHYSICS not PHYSX
Nvidia bought physx in 2008, crysis came out in 2007.
Learn to catch a typo.
Getting sidetracked hard.
Would like a follow up from the OP on his comparisons.
I've got a 470 and find a lot of the stuff people say about them overrated. Sure it's a little hot but nothing more then previous generations of cards.
I find noise to not even be noticeable, card never even goes about 65% on the fan level. At 100% it is noisy, but so is pretty much any fan,e specially reference designs.
I'll dig around for a review of 470/480 overclocking power draw I saw somewhere. As I recall they use a lot more power when overclocked, I believe the overclocked 470 was using as much or more power than a stock 480.
I missed it, is he doing 24/7 folding?
The power crap is over rated. Please tell me what the difference in a power bill would be between a 5850 and a 470 under normal gaming circumstances.
I had 2X280s and didnt notice a difference. Heat? When gaming... absolutely though
My brother's room feels like a furnace sometimes as well when gaming with his 2X4870s.
Learn to proofread.
Using "physx" instead "physics" completely changes the meaning of the sentence. And considering the other stupid crap you've said in this thread it's no surprise people thought you meant "physx".
Crysis is uber GPU limited and that's why it runs like crap. Got it?
Can't you guys at least try to pretend that you're talking face to face with somebody and would quite literally get smacked hard if you talked to a person this way?
Internet cushion is no excuse.
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Here are a few things I think you will find. I went from an 8800gts 320 last week to an ati 5850. First off you will find every game works without tweaks. I have already had to tweak two games in order to get the shadows to work right. Next you will find the colors softer which is okay because you can use digital vibrance to adjust it. With this ATI card I am stuck with the deeper colors unless I do some serious tweaking. You will find games look more crisp. Finally and this is the biggest disappointment is the video upscaling. I watch a lot of SD dvds on my computer.. or at least I use to. ATIs upscaling is terrible. There is so much dithering the whole screen looks terribly grainy. I have minimized it to watchable, but still I am pretty disappointed.
That being said I idle at 34 and load at 55. You think you cannot hear the 470, but I guarantee if you take it out and put a 5850 in there you will immediately notice how quiet your system got. The 470 does an excellent job of masking the sound by making it sound like a system fan, but it is definitely louder.
I finally got some time to play with the 470 some more. I installed crysis wars and put it at 1080p with 16X&Q. It never skipped a beat and played at playable frame rates. Was very happy with that. Wasn't happy about it getting up to 90c. I have a case with awesome airflow. It's a cooler master atcs 840 and I even dremeled a hole in the side of the case for an extra 120mm fan that shoots cool air right into the video card area. So 90c is really not acceptable.
If you're at 1080p IMO its not necessary to upgrade to the nvidia 400 series. While they are powerful cards they just don't offer much over a gtx 280 or 285 except dx11. At this resolution I'd recommend a 5850. It really is a better video card. The 5850 will not only beat the last gen cards in terms of performance it also does it while drawing much less power and putting out less heat. If somehow the 5850 had physx and nvidia's 3D it would be hands down the best option. I guess for me the deciding factor for keeping the 470 is the extras. If you compare card to card it's a no brainer. They are so close in terms of performance but one is smaller and much more efficient. It's the physx, the ability to run 3D, and the slightly better drivers that gives the edge to the 470 for me.
I finally got some time to play with the 470 some more. I installed crysis wars and put it at 1080p with 16X&Q. It never skipped a beat and played at playable frame rates. Was very happy with that. Wasn't happy about it getting up to 90c. I have a case with awesome airflow. It's a cooler master atcs 840 and I even dremeled a hole in the side of the case for an extra 120mm fan that shoots cool air right into the video card area. So 90c is really not acceptable.
If you're at 1080p IMO its not necessary to upgrade to the nvidia 400 series. While they are powerful cards they just don't offer much over a gtx 280 or 285 except dx11. At this resolution I'd recommend a 5850. It really is a better video card. The 5850 will not only beat the last gen cards in terms of performance it also does it while drawing much less power and putting out less heat. If somehow the 5850 had physx and nvidia's 3D it would be hands down the best option. I guess for me the deciding factor for keeping the 470 is the extras. If you compare card to card it's a no brainer. They are so close in terms of performance but one is smaller and much more efficient. It's the physx, the ability to run 3D, and the slightly better drivers that gives the edge to the 470 for me.
Next you will find the colors softer which is okay because you can use digital vibrance to adjust it. With this ATI card I am stuck with the deeper colors unless I do some serious tweaking.
most everyone has to adopt fan profiles in order to keep the temp down. You should do the same.
I finally got some time to play with the 470 some more. I installed crysis wars and put it at 1080p with 16X&Q. It never skipped a beat and played at playable frame rates. Was very happy with that. Wasn't happy about it getting up to 90c. I have a case with awesome airflow. It's a cooler master atcs 840 and I even dremeled a hole in the side of the case for an extra 120mm fan that shoots cool air right into the video card area. So 90c is really not acceptable.
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When did you do this....as this will totally screw your airflow!....all it is doing is disrupting the flow from front to back...Who knows what is now happening to the hot air!
If anything, a sucking motion would have been better!
I'm a little confused by your post... Basically, you recommend the card that you yourself opted not to keep?
The thing about the 90C load temps is that while it is definitely high, the card runs fine at those temps. Plus, based on all the reviews and info out there, it shouldn't have been a surprise. These cards run hot. Period. I hope that at this point anyone buying one of these is aware of the that.
For me personally drivers, features, and stability are the most important aspects of a card. Much more important than heat and power, and even more important than performance. All the performance and efficiency in the world means nothing to me if it's not stable or hampered by driver issues.
For me personally drivers, features, and stability are the most important aspects of a card. Much more important than heat and power, and even more important than performance. All the performance and efficiency in the world means nothing to me if it's not stable or hampered by driver issues.
I was testing fan configurations last night with my Antec 902 and GTX470. Adding a 120 side fan did absolutely nothing for load or idle temps. A second 120 mm front intake fan did nothing either.I even dremeled a hole in the side of the case for an extra 120mm fan that shoots cool air right into the video card area. So 90c is really not acceptable.
I still haven't seen any of these "driver issues" people talk about. :hmm: