Saddam's lawyer confirms that his client was tortured

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umbrella39

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1) You defended a clearly racist remark. Poking fun at lawyers is fun and fine, the Arab part should have been left out.

2) I never said you equated Arab-Terrorist. People being the key word. And you know as well as I do there are a LOT in this country that do. Don't always think that everything is about you and don't let me stop you from posting here. There is a lot of cheese to go along with all the whine.
 

eriqesque

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: eriqesque
Arabic is NOT a race

It's clearly an ethnicity, regardless of how many hairs you split to defend the original comment. Would you argue that "sand n1gger" is not a racially offensive term, by way of illustration? I actually don't know that alchemize was implying that Arabic = liar, but your defense of him does nobody any favors.

Do we not have free speech
or does it only apply to liberal bullshit.

His statement was in no way racially offensive.
If his post offended someone then so be it
half the stuff posted on this board offends me, but I don't friggin whine about it.

People need to get a friggin grip.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
No you shut up. You would LIKE a place where you and your like can spew all the racist comments you desire, don't you? I am getting a little sick of people equating Arab to Terrorist. That is like equating southern white american males to KKK memebers.

i think the southern white male = klansman already exists, and used to be true [for the most part]

its like saying all new englanders are liberals. its not always true, but in most cases it is.
 

Dedpuhl

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He was probably tortured like the prisoners of Abu G.: Panties on the head and dogs barking at his crotch...
 

chrisms

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I hope they repeatedly poke needles in his eyes, force sewage down his throat, smash each of his fingers and toes with a sledge hammer, and cut his limbs off one by one with a dull knife.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
1) You defended a clearly racist remark. Poking fun at lawyers is fun and fine, the Arab part should have been left out.

2) I never said you equated Arab-Terrorist. People being the key word. And you know as well as I do there are a LOT in this country that do. Don't always think that everything is about you and don't let me stop you from posting here. There is a lot of cheese to go along with all the whine.

I guess I was confused when I read this part of your post :

you and your like can spew all the racist comments you desire,

Maybe my reading skills have diminished recently.
 

NumbersGuy

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And a lawyer would never lie, especially an arabic one!


An unfortunate remark. How about:

And a lawyer would never lie, especially a Jewish one!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a black one!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a WASP!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a Hispanic one!

Any different perspective now?

I think we'd all agree with the shorter & less specific "And a lawyer would never lie!"
 

chess9

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NumbersGuy:

Your point would have been much stronger if you hadn't used the sanitized version.

Of course, it would have needed some non-alphabetic characters or some really wierd spellings.

-Robert
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: alchemize
And a lawyer would never lie, especially an arabic one!

Is racism something that is condoned around here. I am engaged to a lawyer, she happens to be from Lebanon. You are an ass and a racist and should not be allowed to post here, or something is wrong with this place.

We have some racist members on this board and even some members that have an agenda to prevent human rights threads.
 

cumhail

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: alchemize
And a lawyer would never lie, especially an arabic one!



I would rescind such a remark
No, no, it's ok, he clarified by saying he meant to spew hatred about all muslims, not just arabs.

Originally posted by: alchemize
Edit: And it would be more accurate to say a muslim lawyer, since Islam supports lying when it involves infidels. Should I bring out the appropriate quotes?
See? He did rescind the original remark.

cumhail
 

Kipper

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Originally posted by: chrisms
I hope they repeatedly poke needles in his eyes, force sewage down his throat, smash each of his fingers and toes with a sledge hammer, and cut his limbs off one by one with a dull knife.

...or they could just incarcerate him for life.
 

cash1220

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Originally posted by: chrisms
I hope they repeatedly poke needles in his eyes, force sewage down his throat, smash each of his fingers and toes with a sledge hammer, and cut his limbs off one by one with a dull knife.

*puts on commie lib suit* saddam is a victim of bush's illegal war. bush should be arrested and charged with war crimes. saddam should be set free and should be given reign over his once sovereign nation
 

DainBrammage

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An unfortunate remark. How about:

And a lawyer would never lie, especially a Jewish one!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a black one!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a WASP!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a Hispanic one!

Any different perspective now?
:

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,and has webbed feet it must be a freaking duck reguardless of what kind of hooked-nose, thick lips, flat ass, or gang tattoos it has. WTF is wrong with this world? There is 10% of every race, religion, and culture on theis earth that is FUC|<ING WORTHLESS WHY BE AFRAID TO SAY SO???

How about that perspective??
 

Zephyr106

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Glad to hear that Saddam may have been sodomized. It is a morale boost for America!

Also Negro lawyers are especially prone to lying.

Zephyr
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Good to see that qualitatively we are no better than anyone else.

Good work guys!
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: DainBrammage
An unfortunate remark. How about:

And a lawyer would never lie, especially a Jewish one!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a black one!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a WASP!
And a lawyer would never lie, especially a Hispanic one!

Any different perspective now?
:

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,and has webbed feet it must be a freaking duck reguardless of what kind of hooked-nose, thick lips, flat ass, or gang tattoos it has. WTF is wrong with this world? There is 10% of every race, religion, and culture on theis earth that is FUC|<ING WORTHLESS WHY BE AFRAID TO SAY SO???

How about that perspective??


haha a little up front but there is some truth in everything...
 

daveshel

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Does every discussion on P&amp;N devolve in to such a free-for-all? I've been hanging out here for a week or so hoping to engage in some stimulating debate, and every thread I have engaged in has been filled with personal attacks. Can't we stick to ideas and analysis, or is it just a game to get a higher post count?
 
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Originally posted by: daveshel
Does every discussion on P&amp;N devolve in to such a free-for-all? I've been hanging out here for a week or so hoping to engage in some stimulating debate, and every thread I have engaged in has been filled with personal attacks. Can't we stick to ideas and analysis, or is it just a game to get a higher post count?

No, it's a game to show how manly you are by getting in the last word, while making the most caustic insult against your opponent.

Your point is well taken, and several of us have repeatedly lobbied for heightened civility here (even to the point of proposing a system for singling out and punishing the worst offenders). It never seems to take. Ah well . . .
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: alchemize
And a lawyer would never lie, especially an arabic one!

Is racism something that is condoned around here. I am engaged to a lawyer, she happens to be from Lebanon. You are an ass and a racist and should not be allowed to post here, or something is wrong with this place.

Well... As an officer of the court it is reasonable to presume the attorney would not lie. He may present his client's claim believing it to be true when it may be false. An attorney would not normally suborn perjury. I assume by using the term 'Arabic' alchemize meant 'of a mid eastern nationality' thus adding further creedence to the truthfullness of the attorney.

How can that be construed as racist?
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Saddam's lawyer confirms that his client was tortured
Cool, I would hope he was tortured!
Does every discussion on P&amp;N devolve in to such a free-for-all?
yes.
Saddam's lawyer confirms that his client was tortured
I?m not reading a dammed thing some liby has to say on this:

GOOD. now give me pictures, dam it, we paid billions for this war, the least we are entitle to is graphic images of a ferret eating sadams left tactical...

oh wait, that's not what happened is it.. poor sadam didn't have access to a commentary and $10 spending cash a week..
booh Hoo, I?m going to tell on you to my mommy.

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
He was probably tortured like the prisoners of Abu G.: Panties on the head and dogs barking at his crotch...

Originally posted by: virtueixi
If you are at all surprised by this: Welcome to the real world.

I am getting a little sick of people equating Arab to Terrorist.

The Irish are terrorists to, you know.

BTW all lawyers are terrorists,
but a small portion of Arabs are terrorists;

All Muslims believe in the Koran and
And it would be more accurate to say a Muslim lawyer, since Islam supports lying when it involves infidels. Should I bring out the appropriate quotes?
is not an erroneous statement.

of course you PC numb-nuts will make excuses for those that 'corrupt' the Koran by reading it the way it is written, but that's ok: to think that someone was actually more in the wrong than the side you stand on would shake the foundation of your self-loathing world.

and now for the second best post to the thread:
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: alchemize
And a lawyer would never lie, especially an Arabic one!

How racist of you. So far the main lies came from the US and our buddies like Chalabi.
let me translate
guy1: I?m an ignorant numb-nuts
guy2: you are an ignorant numb nuts, and I?m an ignorant ass-hat!

/clap

Now THAT is entertainment.
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Saddam's lawyer confirms that his client was tortured
I?m not reading a dammed thing some liby has to say on this:

Ignorance is bliss?

GOOD. now give me pictures, dam it, we paid billions for this war, the least we are entitle to is graphic images of a ferret eating sadams left tactical...


Torturing Saddaam would make you feel better? Doesn't that make you a...sadist? Nothing wrong with that, just wondering. Quite frankly, I'd rather have stockpiles of WMDs found and a stable government installed in Iraq, but whatever floats your boat.

oh wait, that's not what happened is it.. poor sadam didn't have access to a commentary and $10 spending cash a week..
booh Hoo, I?m going to tell on you to my mommy.

:roll:

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
He was probably tortured like the prisoners of Abu G.: Panties on the head and dogs barking at his crotch...

Originally posted by: virtueixi
If you are at all surprised by this: Welcome to the real world.

I am getting a little sick of people equating Arab to Terrorist.

The Irish are terrorists to, you know.

?

BTW all lawyers are terrorists,
but a small portion of Arabs are terrorists;

?


All Muslims believe in the Koran and
And it would be more accurate to say a Muslim lawyer, since Islam supports lying when it involves infidels. Should I bring out the appropriate quotes?
is not an erroneous statement.

Should I bring out quotes from the Bible where raping a Gentile is deemed appropriate? :roll:

of course you PC numb-nuts will make excuses for those that 'corrupt' the Koran by reading it the way it is written, but that's ok: to think that someone was actually more in the wrong than the side you stand on would shake the foundation of your self-loathing world.

Do you excuse Christians for the Crusades for corrupting the Bible by reading it the way it is written? Oh no, I forgot, all Christians are pacifists who always turn the cheek and love their neighbor :roll: Way to take an ignorant slam at another religion yet I'm pretty sure your panties get in a wad anytime someone slams Christianity. And yes, some Muslims do use the Koran to further their agenda, some Christians have done that in the past and continue to do so. What's your point?

and now for the second best post to the thread:
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: alchemize
And a lawyer would never lie, especially an Arabic one!

How racist of you. So far the main lies came from the US and our buddies like Chalabi.
let me translate
guy1: I?m an ignorant numb-nuts
guy2: you are an ignorant numb nuts, and I?m an ignorant ass-hat!

/clap

Now THAT is entertainment.

Don't quite follow that translation, is it some new form of AOL speak or something? If you could clarify that it would be great.
 
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