Safest Table Saw

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
What if something wet contacts the saw blade? It would suck to lose 60$ everytime it rained a bit, or some water got on whatever you are working with.

I thought it was a salt solution...

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: coldmeat

Originally posted by: Modelworks
no thanks. I 'll stick to using common sense.

I'll gladly take common sense + this tech.

 

[vi edit]

One thing painful about this saw is the price. Even the "low end" contractor portable version is $1500.

It might save a finger but it'll cost you an arm.

 

[SonnyDaze]

Originally posted by: vi edit
One thing painful about this saw is the price. Even the "low end" contractor portable version is $1500.

It might save a finger but it'll cost you an arm.

Yeah the price of one of their contractor saws is around $1600. Ouch!! I think I'll stick with my $500 Ridgid and safe techniques.

 

[angminas]

Why don't table saw operators use chain gloves? Too loose and they get grabbed?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: angminas
Why don't table saw operators use chain gloves? Too loose and they get grabbed?

So instead of the saw gracefully lobbing your fingers off it'll instead grab, twist, and gnarl them into a grizzly lump flesh and bone and take the rest of your lower arm with it?

 

[WildHorse]

Originally posted by: vi edit
One thing painful about this saw is the price. Even the "low end" contractor portable version is $1500.

It might save a finger but it'll cost you an arm.

my basic saw table was quite a llot more than that before the extra composition blades & outfeed rollers I added

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: scott

Originally posted by: vi edit
One thing painful about this saw is the price. Even the "low end" contractor portable version is $1500.

It might save a finger but it'll cost you an arm.

my basic saw table was quite a llot more than that before the extra composition blades & outfeed rollers I added

I don't know what you consider "basic", but a nice granite top Ridgid saw is about $400.

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I have been using table saws and other tools that can cut off fingers in the blink of an eye for 30 years and have yet to cut any of my fingers. Why do I need this again? This is a tool for dumbasses, or today's youth since they need their hand held on everything so they don't hurt themselves.

I used a band saw every day for 4-8 hrs/day (meat) for 8 yrs. and never got cut, it's just total concentration on the job at hand (pun intended). If someone needed to talk to me for any reason I would move my hands to safety THEN turn and talk. We had 20 meatcutters working at one point and there were a few folks missing fingers or tips of fingers, I used to call it the" wood shop teachers convention". I agree most accidents are preventable but the one time mistake with a power saw of any type can be devastating..

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: angminas
Why don't table saw operators use chain gloves? Too loose and they get grabbed?

People are supposed to use push sticks with table saws so the fingers are not near the blade. Often what you find when someone loses a finger or worse is that they were feeding the work with a hand and/or they removed the blade cover/guard.

 

[aphex]

I can't even look

 

[coloumb]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I have been using table saws and other tools that can cut off fingers in the blink of an eye for 30 years and have yet to cut any of my fingers. Why do I need this again? This is a tool for dumbasses, or today's youth since they need their hand held on everything so they don't hurt themselves.

Maybe. But humans get sloppy when they get tired, distracted, in a rush, etc. Anyone who's lost a finger would probably bow down before the inventor [and say "we're not worthy!"] and wonder why the hell something like this isn't standard on table saws already.

Safety > anything.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Amazing.

 

[her209]

LOL, check out Water Balloon to the Face!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90VyvOhPmA0

 

[Squisher]

Someone just posted the other day that every time you activate the saw stop function it costs $150 to replace a cartridge besides that $60 stop.

There is no reason to ever put your fingers in harms way. There is a safe way to do something and there is the wrong way.

 

[MikeMike]

Whoever said not to wear lose clothing around a rotating machine... i can speak first hand... while using a pipe threading machine, i was wearing gloves.. and was threading a 3/4" galv. pipe... let's just say glove got caught, hand went backwards around the pipe, i dont know how i didnt break anything, it was a PITA to stop the thing since i was using my right foot on the pedal, and then only way to keep with my hand was to go to the right... i had to do some random jumping and skipping and trying to stop the machine... that bitch HURT.

 

[WildHorse]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: scott

Originally posted by: vi edit
One thing painful about this saw is the price. Even the "low end" contractor portable version is $1500.

It might save a finger but it'll cost you an arm.

my basic saw table was quite a llot more than that before the extra composition blades & outfeed rollers I added

I don't know what you consider "basic", but a nice granite top Ridgid saw is about $400.

Oh yeah! I saw a Ridgid Contractor's saw on a great - looking tubular frame at Home depot for sdale in the $400 - $500 range (don't remember exactly).

If I was buying a contractors' saw for portability I might go for that Ridgid. As I vaguely recall (months ago) its specs were pretty good!

AS for my set-up, I like to emphasise super-super high quality rather than high production, since wjhat I do is usually 1-of-a-kind. I personally don't care about producing high volume of anything.

Yeah, for a Contractors' saw, the Ridgid with the tubular frame might be a real good choice!

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: scott

Originally posted by: vi edit
One thing painful about this saw is the price. Even the "low end" contractor portable version is $1500.

It might save a finger but it'll cost you an arm.

my basic saw table was quite a llot more than that before the extra composition blades & outfeed rollers I added

I don't know what you consider "basic", but a nice granite top Ridgid saw is about $400.

Delta X5 ($2200) is about as basic as it gets, anything lesser is inaccurate or plain dangerous imo. Powermatic ftw!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's a nice idea, and it's been around for years, but most people couldn't afford it. Of course someone will say "Yeah but it's cheaper than an accident!" True. There are also crash avoidance systems in cars costing 45K and up. How many will wait until they have $50,000 or so before they drive?

My main problem is that a large part of the cost isn't the technology, but the royalty. The inventors even lobbied DC trying to have this mandated in every saw, and of course they would maintain the exclusive rights.

I'll keep my current saw and car, thanks.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
It's a nice idea, and it's been around for years, but most people couldn't afford it. Of course someone will say "Yeah but it's cheaper than an accident!" True. There are also crash avoidance systems in cars costing 45K and up. How many will wait until they have $50,000 or so before they drive?

My main problem is that a large part of the cost isn't the technology, but the royalty. The inventors even lobbied DC trying to have this mandated in every saw, and of course they would maintain the exclusive rights.

I'll keep my current saw and car, thanks.

Mandatory is probably not a good thing although when this would become mass produced on a large scale the price would fall significantly. Factor in Chinese copycatting and it would be super cheap. (providing using a lead block is acceptable!)

I can see using this in vocational schools where inexperienced hands may be around a table saw.

The one shot approach is very similar to airbags in automobiles. The tech is 40 years old and was pushed in the early 70's with little appeal. Now is it possible to get a new (car) that does not have them?

Speaking of airbags...

Ford airbags >> Saturn airbags! :laugh:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
no thanks. I 'll stick to using common sense.

hire a handyman?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I have been using table saws and other tools that can cut off fingers in the blink of an eye for 30 years and have yet to cut any of my fingers. Why do I need this again? This is a tool for dumbasses, or today's youth since they need their hand held on everything so they don't hurt themselves.

you inherited your cars I thought....

 

[tynopik]

the problem i've heard is that there are too many FALSE POSITIVES. If you're forever blowing $150 because it misdetected something, that gets old real quick. Not to mention the time of swapping in a new unit, especially if you don't keep spares on hand.

 

[KillerCharlie]

I remember someone here posting this several years ago.

 

[Jeff7181]

"Son of a bitch, Billy-Bob. Why'd you stick your finger in there? Now I gotta go buy $60 worth of parts!"
"Sorry boss, I'll turn off the safety next time."
(1 hour later)
"Alright, new blade installed. Get back to work now!"
"Sure boss."
"OMG! My finger! Call 911!"