Samsung 244t for $1000

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: fdfdfdfd
I do not think the infomation is correct.

I have 2405FPW and the manual says its panel manufactured in China by a
company called Tatung. No single word mentioned about Samsung.

When I purchased it, I looked up all the manuals of 19"-24", non of their panels
were made in Korea or Samsung except FPW 2005 which panel was made in
Korea by LG. So I can confirm FPW 2005's panel is made by LG but not others.

You can actually access a menu that tells who made your panel, and I know people have gotten Samsung panels in 1907FPs.

The manual isn't necessarily giving all the information. Dell often changes their suppliers and makes no mention of it (and doesn't change the manual), but if you look on the internet you'll see that throughout the lifetime of their monitors, people often report different brands of panels.

As it is, there are only what 3 major panel makers, Samsung being one, Chimae being another, and I forget who the third is (Toshiba maybe?). The other companies that sell LCDs buy the panels from them and use their own electronics/design and put their brand name on it. Dell takes things a step further and actually has these other companies manufacture their monitors, but they according to the Dell design.

There are 4 major panel suppliers: Samsung, AUO, LG.Philips, and CMO (Chi Mei Optoelectronics). With some exceptions, most monitors will have a panel made by one of these four companies. You can bet that Dell deals with all of them to get the best deal they can.

 

[imported_OrSin]

I know Samsung older 23" models was not that great.
Any one have a site with a relaible review of this monitor?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: R3LIC
how is this not hot?

the egg sells it for over $1300

33% off is a pretty good deal.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
2405 FTW?

http://www.nextag.com/dell-2405/search-html

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: athens101
Dell reliable. i found a site about their 24 inch monitor having problems.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31352

Dell gets the front panel from Samsung but the rest is Dell.

Let me find my post, I believe Dell offered a firmware update to fix the problem with the DCDi processor.

 

[Googer]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/01/dell-quietly-announces-2407wfp/

 

[InlineFour]

Originally posted by: AdamsJabbar

Originally posted by: Desslok

Originally posted by: athens101
you cant compare a Samsung monitor with a Dell. its like compareing a Ferrari with Hyundai.

Doesn't Dell use Samsung panels?

Dell DOES use Samsung panels.

"Its like comparing a Chevy Silverado with a GMC Sierra."

or a lexus ES with a camry V6; both use the same engine.

 

[imported_OrSin]

That becasue they are the same care. Lexus and Toyota are the same company and share all manufacturing. Lexus is jsut thier high end spin off. But in reallity lexus are just Toyotas that come well equip.

But bad to topic. I seriously considering this monitor. Now if only cosco sold it

 

[Googer]

Honda = Acura
Toyota = Lexus
Nissan = Infinity
GM = Cadillac
Ford = Lincoln

The Acura TL is just an overglorified European Honda Accord. The Lexus ES is just a dressed up American Camry. The Infinity FX55 is a Nissan Murano and the Infinity G coupe is a softer handling version of the Nissan Z.

 

[BlackPear1]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

You can actually access a menu that tells who made your panel, and I know people have gotten Samsung panels in 1907FPs.

How can I access that menu? I'm interested in checking my LCD.

 

[DJChad]

Originally posted by: Googer
The Acura TSX is a European Honda Accord.

There... fixed that for you

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: fdfdfdfd
I do not think the infomation is correct.

I have 2405FPW and the manual says its panel manufactured in China by a
company called Tatung. No single word mentioned about Samsung.

When I purchased it, I looked up all the manuals of 19"-24", non of their panels
were made in Korea or Samsung except FPW 2005 which panel was made in
Korea by LG. So I can confirm FPW 2005's panel is made by LG but not others.

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: fdfdfdfd

Originally posted by: AdamsJabbar

Originally posted by: Desslok

Originally posted by: athens101
you cant compare a Samsung monitor with a Dell. its like compareing a Ferrari with Hyundai.

Doesn't Dell use Samsung panels?

Dell DOES use Samsung panels.

"Its like comparing a Chevy Silverado with a GMC Sierra."

No, No, No, No.. that's like 10 years ago.

Samsung stopped supplying Dell very long time ago.
Dell then switched to Taiwanese manufacturers.

Now most of Dell monitors are using Chinese panels.

You'll now need to pay top dollars to buy Korean or Taiwanese panels...

Definitely not 10 earth years.

http://aryarya.net/wassyoi/lcdmemo.html

Dell 1501FP = 15 inch TN (Toshiba LTM15C430) panel.
Dell 1501FP ver2 = 15.1 inch 50 ms TN (LG.Philips LM151X2) panel.
Dell 1503FP = 15 inch TN (Samsung LTM150XS-L01) panel.
Dell 1701FP = 17 inch TN (Samsung LTM170E4-L01) panel.
Dell 1702FP = 17 inch PVA (Samsung) panel.
Dell 1703FP = 17 inch 25ms PVA (Samsung) panel.
Dell 1704FPT = 17 inch 12 ms TN (Samsung LTM170EU) panel.
Dell 1704FPV = 17 inch 25 ms PVA (Samsung LTM170E8-L01) panel.
Dell 1706FP = 17 inch 25 ms PVA (Samsung LTM170E8) panel.
Dell 1800FP = 18 inch 30 ms IPS (LG.Philips LM181E06) panel.
Dell 1900FP = 19 inch 25 ms PVA (Samsung LTM190E1) panel.
Dell 1905FP = 19 inch 20 ms PVA (Samsung LTM190E4-L02) panel.
Dell 1905FP ver2 = 19 inch 8 ms P-MVA (AUO M190EN03 V0) panel.
Dell 1906FP = 19 inch 25 ms PVA (Samsung LTM190E4) panel.
Dell 2000FP = 20.1 inch 25 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201U02) panel.
Dell 2001FP = 20.1 inch 16 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201U04) panel.
Dell 2001FP ver2 = 20.1 inch 16 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201U04-SL02) panel.
Dell 2001FP ver3 = 20.1 inch 12 ms (g2g) S-PVA (Samsung LTM201U1-L01) panel.
Dell 2007FP = 20.1 inch 16 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201U05) panel.
Dell 2007FP ver2 = 20.1 inch 16 ms S-PVA (Samsung LTM201U1) panel.
Dell 2005FPW (widescreen) = 20.1 inch 16 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel.
Dell 2007WFP (widescreen) = 20.1 inch 16 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201WE2) panel.
Dell 2405FPW (widescreen) = 24 inch 12 ms (g2g) PVA (Samsung LTM240W1-L04) panel.
Dell 2405FPW (widescreen) ver2 = 24 inch 12 ms (g2g) PVA (Samsung LTM240M1-L01) panel.
Dell 2407WFP (widescreen) = 24 inch 6 ms (g2g) PVA (Samsung LTM240M2) panel.
Dell 3007WFP (widescreen) = 30 inch 11 ms (g2g) S-IPS (LG.Philips LM300W01) panel.

quite pwnt, lol @ 10 Earth years.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: DJChad

Originally posted by: Googer
The Acura TSX is a European Honda Accord.

There... fixed that for you

Wow.. how nice of you seeing as though you only post less than twice a year on average here.

 

[Tokar]

Originally posted by: nole1fan
I wonder is Samsung that much better then Dell to spend that type of money?

The three year warranty makes it all worth it.

 

[uglywolf]

Same panel doesn't equal same quality if they are in fact the same.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/589-...carte-mura-components-dead-pixels.html

Also, consider that there's more to a display than just the panel. Any of the other components can ruin an otherwise good display with good panel. Dell monitors have gotten some slack for poor backlighting in some models. Also, the firmware, overdrive components, and video processing features (e.g. DCDi banding issues, poor deinterlacing). Don't forget extras like flash memory and usb hubs.

I have the 2405fpw and I do notice ghosting. I also didn't like that aspect controls don't apply to the secondary display when using PIP/PBP. It was cheap but I may upgrade to get HDCP and better response time.

By the way, the Samsung 244t is more in line with the Dell 2407fpw (6ms grey to grey vs. 12ms grey to grey for 2405) ($949 regular price, less with discounts/coupons.) The 2407fpw has HDCP and better response time but as mentioned before there were problems with the first batches.

Manual for 2407fpw:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/m...rs/2407WFP/en/about.htm#Specifications

 

[uglywolf]

There is a 10% off coupon for CircuitCity.com but unfortunately I can't link to it because it's an affliate promo.

 

[uglywolf]

Originally posted by: fdfdfdfd
I do not think the infomation is correct.

I have 2405FPW and the manual says its panel manufactured in China by a
company called Tatung. No single word mentioned about Samsung.

When I purchased it, I looked up all the manuals of 19"-24", non of their panels
were made in Korea or Samsung except FPW 2005 which panel was made in
Korea by LG. So I can confirm FPW 2005's panel is made by LG but not others.

I just went into the service/factory mode for my 2405fpw and it says it's a Samsung panel.

On the display itself in the back it says "Made in China". I did read that BenQ manufacturers this display for Dell. Apparently, Tatung also manufacturers Dell stuff so it's possible. It's clear that when Dell says it's "Manufactured by" it doesn't mean everything in the display is made by that company. They obviously use components from different companies.

Online manual indicates that it's BenQ. Their HQ is in China. Tatung's HQ is in Taiwan.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/m.../en/appendx.htm#Warranty%20Information

 

[Googer]

The panel's might be made in Taiwan while other componets are made in Japan, but the whole thing is assembled in China. That is why they say made in China even though there are no Chineese parts involved.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: Tokar

Originally posted by: nole1fan
I wonder is Samsung that much better then Dell to spend that type of money?

The three year warranty makes it all worth it.

The 3 year warranty on the Samsung or the 3 year warranty on the Dell?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Tokar

Originally posted by: nole1fan
I wonder is Samsung that much better then Dell to spend that type of money?

The three year warranty makes it all worth it.

The 3 year warranty on the Samsung or the 3 year warranty on the Dell?

Use Google. Zipzoomfly's website says three years. The Dell may have three years, but I cannot deny or confirm this. I can only speculated using warranty information from previous dell display models of similar price class at the time of release.


http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=232473

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: OrSin
That becasue they are the same care. Lexus and Toyota are the same company and share all manufacturing. Lexus is jsut thier high end spin off. But in reallity lexus are just Toyotas that come well equip.

But bad to topic. I seriously considering this monitor. Now if only cosco sold it

Wrong. All Lexuses are RWD or AWD with the exception of the ES350. They are not just rebadged Toyotas with leather.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: OrSin
That becasue they are the same care. Lexus and Toyota are the same company and share all manufacturing. Lexus is jsut thier high end spin off. But in reallity lexus are just Toyotas that come well equip.

But bad to topic. I seriously considering this monitor. Now if only cosco sold it

Wrong. All Lexuses are RWD or AWD with the exception of the ES350. They are not just rebadged Toyotas with leather.

Park an ES next to a Camry and you will notice that they look almost identical. The ES is just a Camry wearing a Tuxedo.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Tokar

Originally posted by: nole1fan
I wonder is Samsung that much better then Dell to spend that type of money?

The three year warranty makes it all worth it.

The 3 year warranty on the Samsung or the 3 year warranty on the Dell?

Use Google. Zipzoomfly's website says three years. The Dell may have three years, but I cannot deny or confirm this. I can only speculated using warranty information from previous dell display models of similar price class at the time of release.


http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=232473

They both have an industry standard 3 years.