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Samsung HL-R5678W - 56" 1080p HDTV
$1829
Samsung HL-R5678W - 56" 1080p HDTV
$1829
Originally posted by: OrSin
People keep talking about true HD is 1080p. No HD is 720P and 1080i. 1080p is beyond the orignal hd Specs. Thier is not broadcast shows in 1080p. People are are so suck on a numbe that have no idea that the number is worthless. And don't say BLue-ray, because 1080p don't work right for them either yet. Ask any one with a blue-ray drive.
Originally posted by: darkavenger626
Originally posted by: OrSin
People keep talking about true HD is 1080p. No HD is 720P and 1080i. 1080p is beyond the orignal hd Specs. Thier is not broadcast shows in 1080p. People are are so suck on a numbe that have no idea that the number is worthless. And don't say BLue-ray, because 1080p don't work right for them either yet. Ask any one with a blue-ray drive.
Woah someone needs spell check not to mention a grammar check as well.
several years, and cost about $200 to replace.Originally posted by: mzkhadir
how long are the lamps suppose to last ?
Originally posted by: VTHodge
Originally posted by: darkavenger626
Originally posted by: OrSin
People keep talking about true HD is 1080p. No HD is 720P and 1080i. 1080p is beyond the orignal hd Specs. Thier is not broadcast shows in 1080p. People are are so suck on a numbe that have no idea that the number is worthless. And don't say BLue-ray, because 1080p don't work right for them either yet. Ask any one with a blue-ray drive.
Woah someone needs spell check not to mention a grammar check as well.
Next time you are going to criticize someone elses grammer, make sure that yours is a lot better than that.
But nice TV for a nice price!
Originally posted by: Arkitech
thats a pretty good deal, I paid almost that much for my 46 inch about a year ago.
Anyone know if and when LCD screens will get up to those sizes. I'd rather buy one of those instead of another DLP, no lamps to worry about.
Originally posted by: kki000
Uhmm hi, viewing angles blow on lcds as well. (direct view, non projection). If yer not a retard about placing the tv, viewing angles on any type of display device is a moot issue.
You guys that are waiting, you will be waiting loooong time for any tech to match price performance of dlp right now. In the meantime you will be missing alot of neat hd programming.
nice find op.
btw ive owned both toshiba and sammie rear pj tvs.. samsung > tosh imho.
Originally posted by: OrSin
People keep talking about true HD is 1080p. No HD is 720P and 1080i. 1080p is beyond the orignal hd Specs. Thier is not broadcast shows in 1080p. People are are so suck on a numbe that have no idea that the number is worthless. And don't say BLue-ray, because 1080p don't work right for them either yet. Ask any one with a blue-ray drive.
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Uhmm hi, viewing angles blow on lcds as well. (direct view, non projection). If yer not a retard about placing the tv, viewing angles on any type of display device is a moot issue.
You guys that are waiting, you will be waiting loooong time for any tech to match price performance of dlp right now. In the meantime you will be missing alot of neat hd programming.
nice find op.
btw ive owned both toshiba and sammie rear pj tvs.. samsung > tosh imho.
What are you talking about, viewing angles is a moot point? I don't care where the hell you place the TV, you still may have an issue with viewing angles. If you place the TV in the living room and your wife wants to watch her show from the kitchen off to the side, it's going to look like crap on a DLP. Having parties and having people scattered around the room looking at the TV will also produce less than stellar picture quality for the people not veiwing the TV straight on. BUT, if you always view the TV from your couch everytime you are going to watch a show or movie, DLP should be fine. LCD have an issue with viewing angles too, but not nearly as much as DLP sets (IME). Plasma on the other hand looks GREAT from just about any angle. They do cost more and do use up more power, but damn, the PQ is AWESOME! If you have a get together for something like a superbowl party, everyone in the room is going to have a great looking picture, no matter where they sit. BUT, you'll have to pay to play with plasma, but in the end DLP and plasma's cost even out. DLPs are cheaper up front, but require ~$200-300 bulb replacements which could be as often as every 1-2yrs depending on the DLP model and usage of the set. Spread that out over an average lifespan of a new plasma (10 yrs), and the cost evens out and may cost more in the end. You'll also have to hope the bulb for your set is still being manufactured 7-10 yrs from now. The actual bulb cost may spike up if they are no longer being produced.
And FYI, I recommended a 50" Samsung HDTV to my brother and he loves it. But he always sits right infront of the set. Great TV for the price though.
Originally posted by: Lurker501
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: kki000
Uhmm hi, viewing angles blow on lcds as well. (direct view, non projection). If yer not a retard about placing the tv, viewing angles on any type of display device is a moot issue.
You guys that are waiting, you will be waiting loooong time for any tech to match price performance of dlp right now. In the meantime you will be missing alot of neat hd programming.
nice find op.
btw ive owned both toshiba and sammie rear pj tvs.. samsung > tosh imho.
What are you talking about, viewing angles is a moot point? I don't care where the hell you place the TV, you still may have an issue with viewing angles. If you place the TV in the living room and your wife wants to watch her show from the kitchen off to the side, it's going to look like crap on a DLP. Having parties and having people scattered around the room looking at the TV will also produce less than stellar picture quality for the people not veiwing the TV straight on. BUT, if you always view the TV from your couch everytime you are going to watch a show or movie, DLP should be fine. LCD have an issue with viewing angles too, but not nearly as much as DLP sets (IME). Plasma on the other hand looks GREAT from just about any angle. They do cost more and do use up more power, but damn, the PQ is AWESOME! If you have a get together for something like a superbowl party, everyone in the room is going to have a great looking picture, no matter where they sit. BUT, you'll have to pay to play with plasma, but in the end DLP and plasma's cost even out. DLPs are cheaper up front, but require ~$200-300 bulb replacements which could be as often as every 1-2yrs depending on the DLP model and usage of the set. Spread that out over an average lifespan of a new plasma (10 yrs), and the cost evens out and may cost more in the end. You'll also have to hope the bulb for your set is still being manufactured 7-10 yrs from now. The actual bulb cost may spike up if they are no longer being produced.
And FYI, I recommended a 50" Samsung HDTV to my brother and he loves it. But he always sits right infront of the set. Great TV for the price though.
I'm in total agreement with you about this. That is why I am constantly checking when the 65" panny 1080p plasma will be available. As soon as I see it I will know if that's "The One"
P.S. BTILC is one of my favorite movies. The whole movie is full of great one-liners.
"I feel good, and I'm not scared at all. I just feel kind of... kind of invincible... Is it getting hot in here, or is it just me? "
Originally posted by: VTHodge
Originally posted by: darkavenger626
Originally posted by: OrSin
People keep talking about true HD is 1080p. No HD is 720P and 1080i. 1080p is beyond the orignal hd Specs. Thier is not broadcast shows in 1080p. People are are so suck on a numbe that have no idea that the number is worthless. And don't say BLue-ray, because 1080p don't work right for them either yet. Ask any one with a blue-ray drive.
Woah someone needs spell check not to mention a grammar check as well.
Next time you are going to criticize someone elses grammer, make sure that yours is a lot better than that.
But nice TV for a nice price!
Originally posted by: JackBurton
I don't care where the hell you place the TV, you still may have an issue with viewing angles. If you place the TV in the living room and your wife wants to watch her show from the kitchen off to the side, it's going to look like crap on a DLP. Having parties and having people scattered around the room looking at the TV will also produce less than stellar picture quality for the people not veiwing the TV straight on. BUT, if you always view the TV from your couch everytime you are going to watch a show or movie, DLP should be fine. LCD have an issue with viewing angles too, but not nearly as much as DLP sets (IME). Plasma on the other hand looks GREAT from just about any angle. They do cost more and do use up more power, but damn, the PQ is AWESOME! If you have a get together for something like a superbowl party, everyone in the room is going to have a great looking picture, no matter where they sit.
Originally posted by: JackBurton
DLPs are cheaper up front, but require ~$200-300 bulb replacements which could be as often as every 1-2yrs depending on the DLP model and usage of the set. Spread that out over an average lifespan of a new plasma (10 yrs), and the cost evens out and may cost more in the end. You'll also have to hope the bulb for your set is still being manufactured 7-10 yrs from now. The actual bulb cost may spike up if they are no longer being produced.
Originally posted by: Lurker501
I'm in total agreement with you about this. That is why I am constantly checking when the 65" panny 1080p plasma will be available. As soon as I see it I will know if that's "The One"
Originally posted by: OrSin
People keep talking about true HD is 1080p. No HD is 720P and 1080i. 1080p is beyond the orignal hd Specs. Thier is not broadcast shows in 1080p. People are are so suck on a numbe that have no idea that the number is worthless. And don't say BLue-ray, because 1080p don't work right for them either yet. Ask any one with a blue-ray drive.
So you talked the Best Buy guy all the way down to $2750, huh? Well you could have gotten it here for less without the bargaining . I helped my brother purchase his DLP set here and they are GREAT!Originally posted by: Vcize
I recently purchased the 61" HL-S6187w (2006 model) and having looked at the old HL-R sets to maybe save a few bucks I would recommend the HL-S sets hands down. True 1080p, nicer cabinet, far less major problems and an all around nicer picture (ISF calibrators have the HL-S sets as THE sets to own right now). From the '05 sets to the '06 sets the Samsung DLP's went from being largely considered as middle of the pack to largely considered top of the line. You don't hear of a person mentioning DLP without mentioning the new HL-S sets. The best part is if you work at it a bit you can get the HL-S sets pretty cheap themselves. I was able to talk the best buy guy down to $2750 on my 61" HL-S (they had it listed for $3400).
There is a lot I want to touch on in this thread...
They may not say anything to you, but I'm pretty picky and it bothers the crap out of me (but I wouldn't say anything to you either). The viewing angle issues are still there with DLP sets, but you're right, they have gotten MUCH better. I'd say you've purchased one of the best DLP sets out there now. If DLP is the HD technology you prefer, that is a GREAT set. :thumbsup:Being that one of the things I was getting my television for were large gatherings at sporting events, viewing angle was a VERY important factor in my TV buying decision. That said, DLPs have gotten to the point where the viewing angle issues have been drastically reduced. Horizontally there is very little viewing angle, I notice that the picture gets dimmer from the side because I'm looking for it. I have hosted several people looking at it from all angles (the loveseat and chair are at ~45 degree angles from the TV) and no one has mentioned a word. The effect is quite minimal at this point. Vertical viewing angles are a bit of an issue but to counter this I simply went with a taller stand (21.5" high as opposed to the recommended 16-18" for a set the size of mine) and it worked beautifully. There is no dimming at all when standing (great for those large sports gatherings and when I'm doing the dishes in the kitchen) and when sitting it's only about an inch too high (again I notice a very, very, very slight shadow on the top inch or so of the screen and no one else has been able to notice it even when I point it out to them). I am very satisfied with the progress made in viewing angles of these sets.
DLP bulbs that are rated at ~6,000hrs comes to a 2yrs life span. Now this obviously is not a set in stone number, but just an average. I calculate it by using 8hrs per day as normal usage. Some people will use it less than 8hrs per day and other will use it more. So on average, 8hrs is a good number. Given that, DLP bulbs last about 2yrs. And as far as bulb cost goes, they have been saying the prices will be coming down for YEARS now. But they've always stayed around the $200 mark. I'll believe it when I see the bulbs at $80. I think this is something sales people say to potential DLP buyers to keep them from freaking out. Now in comparison, Panasonic's new plasmas are rated at 60,000hrs. That is 20yrs using the same calculation. Now this is only half-life, which means half the brightness, which is still watchable. But let's say once your plasma reaches 20yrs old it goes completely out. Are you saying you'll be happy with the same set for 20yrs? I don't know about you, but as much as HD technology is changing, I'd probably buy a newer set even before mine goes out. Definitely before 20yrs is up. SO, if you take the cost of $200 per bulb x 10 (which is the equivalent life span of a plasma), it comes out to $2000 for just the bulbs. This brings your total cost of owning your DLP to $4750. So in reality, it's not that cheap in the long run.A bit leary on the numbers here. Bulbs are rated at about 6,000-8,000 hours, which is 3-5 years even if you use your set a large amount each day. CR also predicts bulb cost for the more popular sets to come down as low as $80 in the next couple years. Also there are two ways to look at this. For me (because I'm an ultra paranoid person) the bulb issue was almost a plus in comparison to plasma's aging. With a DLP the bulb eventually goes out, you stick and new one in and it is as good as new. With a plasma once it reaches its half-life where it is deemed unwatchable it is dead plain and simple, and nothing can be done. But worse than that is that just due to the nature of the technology it gets progressively dimmer as time goes by on its way to that half-life (30k hours). I just know being the anal person that I am that 8-10k hours after buying I'd be looking at my plasma wondering how much brighter it used to be.