Samsung 840 Evo Discussion Thread

[Rikard]

I have a 1TB hard drive on my work computer and not even 100GB is used. No games installed but I don't see the storage for games being more than 100GB.

So let's say I use 200GB on a gaming computer, then the 1TB hard drive is a waste. I'm wasting 800GB whereas I could be using a 256GB or 500GB SSD instead.

A 1TB storage drive is unnecessary for 99% of the population. The other 1% probably need the 1TB because all they do is download 1000 movies per month and sit at home and eat junk food all day. But this is not the majority...

Out of all the people I know, I still don't know anyone who has used more than 500GB of storage space on their computer. Sure, I know a person who hordes movies like there's no tomorrow, but even then, he doesn't even use 500GB of storage space.

Not everybody is a gamer. I think most non-gaming people have several hundred GB of personal photos, vacation movies and that sort of things. They definitely need space, but for those people a 1 TB EVO would make no sense, just stick to a WD Green or similar. However, this group of people tend to rely on laptops, and you have a hard time using multiple drives in those, so a large SSD is the way to go if you can afford it and do not want the hassle of external HDDs.

Personally I want as large SSD as possible for professional reasons. I move ~1 TB a day, and I know that sticking my files on an SSD makes my postprocessing 3 times faster, so there is some real productivity gains to be made in my case.

 

[Puffnstuff]

IMHO once you've used a ssd you won't want a spinner and the prices keep falling all the time as newer models hit the market.

 

[Germanic]

Not everybody is a gamer. I think most non-gaming people have several hundred GB of personal photos, vacation movies and that sort of things. They definitely need space, but for those people a 1 TB EVO would make no sense, just stick to a WD Green or similar. However, this group of people tend to rely on laptops, and you have a hard time using multiple drives in those, so a large SSD is the way to go if you can afford it and do not want the hassle of external HDDs.

Personally I want as large SSD as possible for professional reasons. I move ~1 TB a day, and I know that sticking my files on an SSD makes my postprocessing 3 times faster, so there is some real productivity gains to be made in my case.

Those professionals are the minority though. Most people don't need what their 1TB HDD offers.

That's why I think with the new Samsung 840 EVO SSD, people will start replacing their HDDs with 250GB or 500GB SSDs which will only cost $150 to $250.

At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. If you want to stick to 1TB HDDs and don't mind the inefficient data transfer rate, then spend your $50 and keep the $100.

 

[AbRASiON]

No ETA on the arrival of this puppy?

 

[Aikouka]

I hope that reduced prices on SSDs will start making them more common in business laptops. Your average business-oriented Dell laptop is ridiculously slow when its 5400 RPM HDD is bogged down with encryption. Most SSDs seem to natively support encryption, which that alone should help massively when combining Disk I/O + higher processor usage.

 

[Emulex]

sooo.. how do you hack this to work with any ssd?

can we install an old samsung and have it work on all ssd?

 

[Coup27]

No ETA on the arrival of this puppy?

www.scan.co.uk are saying it's due on 15th of August.

 

[glenn1]

Any reason to *not* get an EVO in favor of something like the M500 or even M4? The hard drive is a huge PITA to get to on my backup Dell laptop and I'd gladly sacrifice speed (which I'll probably never notice) to ensure I don't have to take it apart again to replace a defective SSD.

 

[Cerb]

Any reason to *not* get an EVO in favor of something like the M500 or even M4? The hard drive is a huge PITA to get to on my backup Dell laptop and I'd gladly sacrifice speed (which I'll probably never notice) to ensure I don't have to take it apart again to replace a defective SSD.

M500: endurance, if and only if you actually might cause 50+GB/day host writes, and/or several GBs small random, and/or if you like the idea of of some bad block protection (backups can make it moot, sure, and RAID can help, but it's only a few GB given up).

M4: if you want to stay way behind the curve, as a conservative business-oriented vendor. I mean, this is just being released!

Samsung definitely ran out of bubble gum. The write slowdowns over time of the 840 look like they will be pretty much gone (or rather, dampened to a level where if you care, you either need RAID 0, a PCI-e SSD, or to get out more ). While the actual effect on WA remains to be seen, since it's going to be difficult to capture with fake review tests (simulating small writes with shallow buffers over long time periods would be hard as in difficult, not just hard as in tedious), such caching should be able to reduce realistic high-WA cases, like lots of random small writes (other drives doing the same w/ MLC should see this, too, but it's going to be probably 6-12 months before users start posting useful SMART results).

 

[smakme7757]

I was actually dead set on the Samsung EVO 500GB Model for a project I'm starting tomorrow. Unfortunately I'm unable to get a hold of one until the 14th of August. In the end i picked up the 512GB Samsung 840 Pro. Slightly more expensive though, but I didn't have an option to wait. With the EVO pushing 98,000 IOPS i didn't feel the price hop was worth it for the 840 Pro. Such is life

I'll be keeping a close eye on these EVO drives, they look like a real winner.

 

[Germanic]

No ETA on the arrival of this puppy?

ETA is August, so you can start ordering now!

 

[wpeng]

Where can you order it? I haven't seen it in any online retailer site.

 

[chucky2]

B&H Photo Video has them listed, says availability on 8/20.

I'm contemplating ordering a 250GB model that I don't even need...<heeerrreee wallet, heerrree wallllet! Where'd you go???>

Chuck

 

[beginner99]

Movies freak don't need to download 1000's movies either since 1080p movies easily take 1,5-2 GB per one.

It's more like 10 - 20 GB. So on a 500 Gb you may fit 25-50 such movies. pretty far from thousands.

 

[smakme7757]

People should keep in mind that photos are what eat up the most space in most homes. When I was 16-20 years old I never had anything more than games installed. Now, at 28 I've got 2TB of data I just don't want to loose. Photos of the family and my daughter, work, documents, projects, purchased software and more. Photos take up the most space followed by my software library. Then comes the documents from myself and the wife.



Space is definitely needed by a large portion of the computing population living in the digital world.

 

[smakme7757]

Double post.

 

[TazFTW]

Where can you order it? I haven't seen it in any online retailer site.

Newegg put them up for Pre-order over the weekend. They have an 8/14 release date.

 

[chucky2]

I did the Newegg pre-order and my Evo did in fact ship out yesterday, I can see it when I track it. It is for my aunt for her notebook, and I'm considering giving her the M4 I've got and keeping the Evo. She would never know the difference...

 

[GlacierFreeze]

Is she paying for it?

 

[yours truly]

It is for my aunt for her notebook, and I'm considering giving her the M4 I've got and keeping the Evo. She would never know the difference...

If she's paid for it, then that's low. She's obviously trusting you to help her out.

Yeah she'll never know. But you will. I hope that 1 second faster boot up speed is worth it.

(Sorry don't mean to derail the thread and apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick)

 

[hot120]

Any reason to *not* get an EVO in favor of something like the M500 or even M4? The hard drive is a huge PITA to get to on my backup Dell laptop and I'd gladly sacrifice speed (which I'll probably never notice) to ensure I don't have to take it apart again to replace a defective SSD.

Yes! Dell needs to be kicked in the nuts for making a laptop that requires you to remove half the computer to get to the hard drive. I'm talking top cover, bottom cover, keyboard, etc. Unbelievable!

 

[Cerb]

Yes! Dell needs to be kicked in the nuts for making a laptop that requires you to remove half the computer to get to the hard drive. I'm talking top cover, bottom cover, keyboard, etc. Unbelievable!

Well, aren't we an optimist. I don't call being on the page right before motherboard replacement, "half." It's nice that they're improving the structure of them (really, having a stamped sheet steel covering the whole thing beats trusting plastic tabs any day), but who thought not having an easy to get to HDD bay was a good idea?

 

[smakme7757]

I did the Newegg pre-order and my Evo did in fact ship out yesterday, I can see it when I track it. It is for my aunt for her notebook, and I'm considering giving her the M4 I've got and keeping the Evo. She would never know the difference...

So you're stealing money from your Aunt?

She might not know what SSD she has, but I'd bet your used M4 costs less than her brand new EVO.

Stealing money, betraying trust and acting the conman. No respect from me!

 

[spat55]

Well I have been wanting a SSD for awhile now, this looks like it has settled it for me, I will wait till November to see if there are any problems then if there isn't I will get one, I do need to reinstall windows but don't want to lol.

 

[spat55]

If she's paid for it, then that's low. She's obviously trusting you to help her out.

Yeah she'll never know. But you will. I hope that 1 second faster boot up speed is worth it.

(Sorry don't mean to derail the thread and apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick)

If he charges her second hand money for the M4, then keeps the 840 evo for himself, I think that is what he is saying, although I know you said "If she's paid for it".