Look at the Steam survey. The 300 series is the same way; the only AMD GPU that's sold decently in recent times is the 290/X when the price was severely cut.
Are 14 nm yields good enough to allow for such huge dies? We've seen how poor the Intel 14 nm yields have been, despite that their process has been live for a long time now. And Intel's chips are much smaller than that. So is TSMC/GF/Samsung 14/16 nm yields that much better, so they can produce 450+ mm2 chips in 2016 at reasonable cost?
No, ~1 year until 8 core Zen will obliterate your 4 core Intel CPU's in MT performance. And ∞ days until you will be able to comprehend content in forum threads.
Look at the Steam survey. The 300 series is the same way; the only AMD GPU that's sold decently in recent times is the 290/X when the price was severely cut.
Yep. It's actually pretty nuts how much greater perf/$ AMD needs to offer in order to move product in reasonable quantity. AMD's marketing team is not good at its job.
Of course, it's not getting any better since AMD is cutting costs in marketing/sales to "protect" R&D (though R&D has been cut significantly too). What good is "R&D" if you can't actually sell your product?
If you are a tech enthusiast then you'd be doing your best to ensure that the best tech won at the best price point. This is what I do, because I'm a fan of technology - especially gaming technology.
If you're not doing that then you should re-evaluate your position, because you're not a tech enthusiast and instead fell for the marketing.
i dont think its fair or accurate to say that you have to be an enthusiast to have high end hardware.
Look at the Steam survey. The 300 series is the same way; the only AMD GPU that's sold decently in recent times is the 290/X when the price was severely cut.
If you are a tech enthusiast then you'd be doing your best to ensure that the best tech won at the best price point. This is what I do, because I'm a fan of technology - especially gaming technology.
If you're not doing that then you should re-evaluate your position, because you're not a tech enthusiast and instead fell for the marketing.
That's somewhat misleading. Steam is big, but the survey is cluttered up with a lot of old product, especially considering how many products fall under the DX11 category. Under the DX11 category, for example, R9 200 series shows up in more machines and is gaining ground faster than the GTX 980. The 980 Ti is a no-show. Does that mean the 980 Ti is selling poorly? No.
More telling would be sales data, data concerning how much product is lingering unsold in retail channels, stuff like that.
And give up 25 to 35% in ST performance. D:No, ~1 year until 8 core Zen will obliterate your 4 core Intel CPU's in MT performance.
And give up 25 to 35% in ST performance. D:
We are a few days away from 2016 and DX-12 that will push MT, Single Thread is left behind and will never come back.
DX12 only changes the render, not the game logic.
Again you put all your faith in something new that is supposed to cure all AMDs problems, yet it wont. Wait and see game as always, with the result being the same again and again.
Current DX12 tests also shows you are completely wrong.
You pictures dont work. And DX12 wont change game logic.
Hence why an i3 beats a FX8350 in AOTS. And how was Fable? Oh right, same thing.
So the challenge is up to you, show me a DX12 game where your dream comes true.
We are a few days away from 2016 and DX-12 that will push MT, Single Thread is left behind and will never come back.
There's nothing special about game logic. Sure, you don't get multi-threading for "free" with DX12 when it comes to game logic. But game logic can be made multi-threaded too. Then there will of course always be crappy games that aren't properly coded to make use of that, but that's another story.And DX12 wont change game logic.
Just like HSA did, huh? D:
Does anyone else think that this new AMD/Samsung partnership lead to something bigger?
Samsung is on the short list of companies that would be interested in AMD's IP in the event where they company gets acquired.
Why does it have to be "either/or" when it comes to single-threaded and multi-threaded performance?
Buy a Haswell-E + a nice cooler and you will have excellent multi-threaded performance and within-striking-distance-of-leadership single-thread performance.