Samsung announcement Oct. 11. - Galaxy S III mini

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Fingolfin269

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Lol we all just participated in a 100 post thread on this phone. That's more hilarious than the phone itself. It really must be the slow news time of year!
 

shortylickens

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From a competitive standpoint, it makes sense for Samsung to create a 4" device. Apple is their biggest rival and the iPhone 5 remains pretty much unchallenged in the 4" smartphone sector.

It's clear that the GS3 mini was created as a result of the 5 considering its specs probably didn't take Samsung long to throw together last minute.

The mini basically has no relation to its bigger brother other than looks and branding.

I still like the RAZR m cuz its a 4.3 inch screen in a body the size of an iphone 4.
I do agree we need decent 4 inch screen devices cuz things have been moving too big, too fast. There arent enough powerful small phones around right now.
 

grkM3

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I found something that might interest some

its a 4.3in ips 720x1280 342ppi
s4pro clocked at 1.5ghz
2gb ram
and runs jelly bean

only downfall is no lte but its running the s4pro so it might have it onboard and its just setup for another market

 

Fingolfin269

Lifer
Feb 28, 2003
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I still like the RAZR m cuz its a 4.3 inch screen in a body the size of an iphone 4.
I do agree we need decent 4 inch screen devices cuz things have been moving too big, too fast. There arent enough powerful small phones around right now.

If the M had a better screen I would probably buy it today.
 

kpkp

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Oct 11, 2012
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If the M had a better screen I would probably buy it today.
Google should just make RAZR m a nexus, get a better LCD (even if i am not sure they could make it as thin or as edge to edge if it's not a AMOLED) and they have a winner. It would even look better without that ugly branding in the front.
 

shortylickens

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I've played with it at the Verizon store. The screen is just fine. I think people have a predisposition to hate Pentile even if they havent seen the device in question. I'm not saying Pentile is the preferred choice, and if I have my pick of devices I will go with something better, but I'm also saying it should not be a deal breaker if the rest of the phone is perfect for your needs.
 

kpkp

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I can live with the pentile, but AMOLED burn-ins are the deal breaker for me.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
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I can live with the pentile, but AMOLED burn-ins are the deal breaker for me.

I dont think I've kept a phone long enough to worry about burn in. I dont leave the screen on when I'm doing nothing, and if I'm using it then the screen is constantly changing.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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lol wtf is this

Samsung has been talking up the new Galaxy S III Mini smartphone this week, and now it has been officially unveiled at an event in Germany. Though the Galaxy S III Mini carries the vaunted Galaxy S III name and is said to be a competitive smaller device, in reality, it's just another mid-range smartphone like many others that Samsung has released in the past. As rumored, the device has a 4-inch Super AMOLED display with a 800 x 480 display, plus a dual-core 1GHz processor — not exactly the high-end specs that the original Galaxy S III contains.

The camera has also been downgraded, from eight megapixels on the Galaxy S III to five megapixels on the Galaxy S III mini, while the front-facing camera now only supports VGA resolution. Yet another surprising omission is the lack of LTE connectivity onboard. The phone's most redeeming quality is probably the fact that it comes with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, though that should be par for the course at this point. Overall, we're quite surprised to see the company sully its premiere Galaxy S III branding with this decidedly mid-range, heavily compromised handset — it's a relative to the Galaxy S III in name and appearance only.
 

kaerflog

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This is by far the worst thing that Samsung has ever come up with.
I mean, they have released Galaxy alias like the Ace, Duo and such but to put a Galaxy S3 name on a piece of turd like this is laughable.
I was never a fan of the GS3 to begin with cause its too rounded for me but in person the phone looks decent.
Now that its shrunken down into a 4" form factor, it looks like a turd.
It looks like a cheapo phone from China.
I think Samsung is determine to dilute its Galaxy brand.
There are so many other smaller size phones that are way better than the Mini in specs and maybe prices.
The LG Escape and Pantech Flex are 2 4.3" phones that has the S4 soc inside and can be had for $0/$50 on contract.
The 3 worst thing that Samsung ever came up with:
1) Galaxy S3 Mini
2) Samsung Instinct for Sprint(they actually thought this could compete with the iPhone)
3) The newest Galaxy Tab. The plastic border around the screen is just atrocious. Ugly would be an understatement.
 

kpkp

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I dont think I've kept a phone long enough to worry about burn in. I dont leave the screen on when I'm doing nothing, and if I'm using it then the screen is constantly changing.

Maybe you are right, I have the original Galaxy note international, and i havent noticed any problems so far (i keep the brightness quite low most often), but my fathers S2 is burned so much I could never use it (he plays poker online alot) and that was just after 6 months or less. I find it hard to support or recommend a technology that in my eyes has a birth defect, specially now that you can find really great quality LCDs.

I am also wondering what would Samsung do if 1080p smartphones became popular, but thats another story...
 
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lol wtf is this

Samsung has been talking up the new Galaxy S III Mini smartphone this week, and now it has been officially unveiled at an event in Germany. Though the Galaxy S III Mini carries the vaunted Galaxy S III name and is said to be a competitive smaller device, in reality, it's just another mid-range smartphone like many others that Samsung has released in the past. As rumored, the device has a 4-inch Super AMOLED display with a 800 x 480 display, plus a dual-core 1GHz processor — not exactly the high-end specs that the original Galaxy S III contains.

The camera has also been downgraded, from eight megapixels on the Galaxy S III to five megapixels on the Galaxy S III mini, while the front-facing camera now only supports VGA resolution. Yet another surprising omission is the lack of LTE connectivity onboard. The phone's most redeeming quality is probably the fact that it comes with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, though that should be par for the course at this point. Overall, we're quite surprised to see the company sully its premiere Galaxy S III branding with this decidedly mid-range, heavily compromised handset — it's a relative to the Galaxy S III in name and appearance only.

Well LTE doesn't really matter THAT much because the standard phone lacks LTE also. Global LTE is only barely coming online. And only expect LTE to be standard if you're in the US, which means a US specific phone. Who knows which carrier will even pick this up.

But yes, this phone heavily compromises design specs.
 

SAWYER

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
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I found something that might interest some

its a 4.3in ips 720x1280 342ppi
s4pro clocked at 1.5ghz
2gb ram
and runs jelly bean

only downfall is no lte but its running the s4pro so it might have it onboard and its just setup for another market


Nice
 

Ns1

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Well LTE doesn't really matter THAT much because the standard phone lacks LTE also. Global LTE is only barely coming online. And only expect LTE to be standard if you're in the US, which means a US specific phone. Who knows which carrier will even pick this up.

But yes, this phone heavily compromises design specs.

No LTE + shittier camera = WTF
 

kaerflog

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This is what Samsung should have done.
This is a picture of a Galaxy premier.
4.65" HD display and S4 soc.
I loved the fact that its less rounded than the SG3.
Samsung could have shrunk this down a bit more to 4.3", kept the HD screen and people would have been excited.
I'm 100% sure of that.

 

kaerflog

Golden Member
Jul 23, 2010
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I found something that might interest some

its a 4.3in ips 720x1280 342ppi
s4pro clocked at 1.5ghz
2gb ram
and runs jelly bean

only downfall is no lte but its running the s4pro so it might have it onboard and its just setup for another market


This phone will never make it to the US.
 

kpkp

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Oct 11, 2012
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Samsung could have shrunk this down a bit more to 4.3", kept the HD screen and people would have been excited.
Does Samsung have a HD AMOLED at that size, i dont think they can make it just yet.
 

kaerflog

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Does Samsung have a HD AMOLED at that size, i dont think they can make it just yet.

Don't know if they do or not but they can easily craft one if needed.
There are plenty of 4.3" 720p screen out there.
The above phone has a 4.3" 720p screen and so does the Acer cloudmobile.
Sony has plenty of them.

 

kpkp

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AMOLED is all a different story, why do you think they decreased the PPI going from the Note to Note 2?
Let me answer that for you: so they can squeeze another sub-pixel and have a "normal" 3 subpixel per pixel matrix and get rid of the notoriously infamous pentile matrix. Size of the subpixels also affects the longevity of the AMOLED screen, so even if it would be easy for them to make them smaller it may come at a cost.
Samsung has put so much money in AMOLED and it seems they want only AMOLED on their top devices. Don't get me wrong I would love to see LCDs on top Samsung smartphones, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe if someone pushes them with 1080p.
 

bearxor

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Google should just make RAZR m a nexus, get a better LCD (even if i am not sure they could make it as thin or as edge to edge if it's not a AMOLED) and they have a winner. It would even look better without that ugly branding in the front.
I can't stand this "edge to edge" display nonsense. The screen is recessed in to the device and the body of the phone wraps up where the bezel normally would be. It's a great visual trick, especially on the black device, but I've measured and the edge of the screen to the edge of the device on the RAZR M is barely shorter than that of an iPhone 5.
I've played with it at the Verizon store. The screen is just fine. I think people have a predisposition to hate Pentile even if they havent seen the device in question. I'm not saying Pentile is the preferred choice, and if I have my pick of devices I will go with something better, but I'm also saying it should not be a deal breaker if the rest of the phone is perfect for your needs.

I had no idea the RAZR M screen was pentile. When I got it, I noticed something was just... Off. I looked it up. Wasn't surprised to see it was pentile. So I reject your opinion that people have a predisposition to dislike pentile screens considering that I hadn't really been paying attention and had no idea what type of screen it was before I got ahold of it. I think if it was a 1280x720 pentile, it would have been a lot easier of a pill to swallow.
 

kpkp

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I can't stand this "edge to edge" display nonsense.
You can't call it nonsense, the numbers don't agree with you, just check the width of 4.3" devices and you will see that they are normally 3-5mm wider. So maybe is a trick, but a trick that seem to work.
 

bearxor

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You can't call it nonsense, the numbers don't agree with you, just check the width of 4.3" devices and you will see that they are normally 3-5mm wider. So maybe is a trick, but a trick that seem to work.

Look, they dramatically reduced bezel size. I won't argue with you. It's astonishing that the RAZR and the M use the same screen size and holding them together in each hand is just such a drastic difference.

But it's not edge to edge. It has a bezel. And the recess of the screen below the glass is off putting, at least for me. It's nonsense.
 
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