samsung caught boosting exynos benchmarks

[Bateluer]

Didn't Intel just got some heat for using their own custom compiler for benchmark apps for their Atom mobile parts, which also vastly increased the scores vs the Snapdragon 600s.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Wait, I am confused.

The Snapdragon 600 models are very close to the Exynos version. Without this hack, wouldn't the Exynos version be clearly inferior? Is this just Samsung's way of covering for a bad homegrown SoC?

 

[ChronoReverse]

We can't tell because of the cheating lol.

 

[MrX8503]

Well what are you gonna do. I'm not all that surprised considering Samsung pays people to bash their competitors.

 

[lothar]

Reminds me of the old desktop GPU wars.

I personally have never based my buying decisions on benchmarks for mobile devices. I simply try them out in the real world and then decide.

LOL at people basing their buying decision on benchmarks alone

These.
I could have bought an HTC One or a Galaxy S4 three months ago...But instead, I bought a Nexus 4 for a reason of which benchmarks was not one of them.

 

[grkM3]

Well what are you gonna do. I'm not all that surprised considering Samsung pays people to bash their competitors.

LOl

Samsung pays me well

 

[Hunt3rj2]

Wait, I am confused.

The Snapdragon 600 models are very close to the Exynos version. Without this hack, wouldn't the Exynos version be clearly inferior? Is this just Samsung's way of covering for a bad homegrown SoC?

It would make for a 90% of the current FPS numbers for the benchmarks that boost mode is activated on.

So possibly, yes.

 

[lothar]

Does this performance optimization affect the Galaxy S4 "Google Play" Edition?

 

[Roland00Address]

Does this performance optimization affect the Galaxy S4 "Google Play" Edition?

No because that version uses the Qualcomm s600 chip

 

[Mopetar]

Wait, I am confused.

The Snapdragon 600 models are very close to the Exynos version. Without this hack, wouldn't the Exynos version be clearly inferior? Is this just Samsung's way of covering for a bad homegrown SoC?

I wouldn't really call the Exynos homegrown. Isn't it just using the basic ARM CPU cores and GPU? I think it's even using the ARM supplied big.LITTLE solution. Qualcomm is the one adding their own special sauce into the mix.

I'm not really sure what they were expecting either. If Qualcomm is going to devote a lot of man-hours into customizing the design of the cores and building their own GPU, I would hope that they get more performance out of it than the baseline ARM core.

 

[thecapsaicinkid]

Probably should've put those engineers to work boosting Touchwiz performance instead of benchmarks.

 

[StrangerGuy]

They are calling Intel to find out what the appropriate level of outrage should be. Just saying. ^^

More like calling whether they have actual consumers products people would actually buy on market yet? lol.

Anyway, it's well known that the Octa is a defective chip and nobody in the developed world buys the Exynos version anyway.

 

[Germanic]

More like calling whether they have actual consumers products people would actually buy on market yet? lol.

Anyway, it's well known that the Octa is a defective chip and nobody in the developed world buys the Exynos version anyway.

ROFL...

So you're saying Korea is undeveloped? The very country that owns Samsung (the biggest electronics company in the world)?

Okay then...

This thread is full of misinformation and makes Anandtech look like a bunch of misinformed people... mods should certainly close this embarrassing thread.

 

[StrangerGuy]

ROFL...

So you're saying Korea is undeveloped? The very country that owns Samsung (the biggest electronics company in the world)?

Okay then...

This thread is full of misinformation and makes Anandtech look like a bunch of misinformed people... mods should certainly close this embarrassing thread.

Korea also gets the S600 so why would they buy the lousy version without 4G when the S600 is superior for all intents and purposes. Heck, they are complaining about being shortchanged by Samsung with the S600.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Earl...f-a-Snapdragon-800-version-with-LTE-A_id44352

The only one embarrassing here is you. The children playground is *that* way, thank you very much. Remember to have an adult beside you for supervision.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Korea also gets the S600 so why would they buy the lousy version without 4G when the S600 is superior for all intents and purposes. Heck, they are complaining about being shortchanged by Samsung with the S600.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Earl...f-a-Snapdragon-800-version-with-LTE-A_id44352

The only one embarrassing here is you. The children playground is *that* way, thank you very much. Remember to have an adult beside you for supervision.

in his eyes, samsung/LG/korea can do no wrong. even in the midst of scandals.
that's how they are over there. blinders on.

 

[cheezy321]

LOl

Samsung pays me well

Do you not keep up with your favorite company? This happened back in April. Samsung makes some good products but they are a mega-shady conglomerate that basically has the South Korean govt in their back pocket.

Link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22166606

Samsung Taiwan said it had not been told about the investigation, however the subsidiary put a statement on its local Facebook page saying it had "ceased all marketing activities that involve the posting of anonymous comments".

It said all future marketing work would be more in line with its company philosophy of transparency and honesty.

 

[PowerYoga]

Samsung makes some good products but they are a mega-shady conglomerate that basically has the South Korean govt in their back pocket.

Yeah when you make 20% of the nation's GDP you'll have a lot of government backing to make sure it doesn't collapse so it doesn't send the country into economic turmoil. Remember MURICA's too big to fail crap?

 

[Red Storm]

So AT has a followup article on this and they still don't flat out flame Samsung for cheating on benchmarks.

I am more disappointed in AT than I am with Samsung at the moment.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

So AT has a followup article on this and they still don't flat out flame Samsung for cheating on benchmarks.

I am more disappointed in AT than I am with Samsung at the moment.

I expected more from Anand. He strikes me as someone with integrity.

Does Scamsung advertise on AT?

 

[MrX8503]

So AT has a followup article on this and they still don't flat out flame Samsung for cheating on benchmarks.

I am more disappointed in AT than I am with Samsung at the moment.

Maybe AT is too afraid to flame Samsung.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Or maybe as professionals, they're just presenting facts and letting the facts speak for itself. We're not children, we can come to the appropriate conclusion.

 

[MrX8503]

Or maybe as professionals, they're just presenting facts and letting the facts speak for itself. We're not children, we can come to the appropriate conclusion.

They wouldn't be any less professional if they said Samsungs fake benchmarks were a bit disconcerting.

Apparently some people here couldn't draw the appropriate conclusion. Lol

 

[poofyhairguy]

So this doesn't happen with the Qualcomm models? If not, what was the point?

Still confused.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Well aside from the usual suspects, most people seem to see it rightly as cheating.

So this doesn't happen with the Qualcomm models? If not, what was the point?

Still confused.

For now this has only been demonstrated on the Exynos 5 Octa version of the GS4.


It's probably harder to do this on the Snapdragon surreptitiously because of all the comparison platforms (e.g., HTC One).

 

[Crono]

This wouldn't bother me except the fact that a string in the frequency managing application is called "benchmark booster".

It's a bit deceptive, but I agree with the users who are saying it probably didn't doesn't affect purchasing decisions of customers. If Samsung were upfront about this and it didn't have to be found by AnandTech then it would be a complete non-issue. It's a bit shady on the part of Samsung, so I'm not giving them a free pass.