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WT

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Still no Netflix support for ARM, and its been a known issue since early October !! How long does it take to remove the Silverlight requirement and properly code it for either Flash or HTML5 ?? Seriously ..

Otherwise, my 9 y.o. daughter loves hers, but its annoying playing this waiting game for what I had hoped would be resolved by now.
 

shortylickens

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Still no Netflix support for ARM, and its been a known issue since early October !! How long does it take to remove the Silverlight requirement and properly code it for either Flash or HTML5 ?? Seriously ..

Otherwise, my 9 y.o. daughter loves hers, but its annoying playing this waiting game for what I had hoped would be resolved by now.

Flash sucks donkey nads.
But HTML5 is fine.
 

thecapsaicinkid

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Flash does indeed suck dead donkey balls, as does Silverlight which I believe rights holders insist on due to the DRM.
 

you2

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I might go for the 13inch model next year if it is decent and priced below $450. I was thinking about a 13 inch zen book but those are $1000. Kind of prefer linux or even andriod over chrome os. I know there is a linux port but this thing doens't quite have the memory to support it.
 

Dari

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These Chromebooks are a waste of money. May God help you when that network card dies or goes bad. Then the entire device becomes completely worthless.
 

Fox5

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These Chromebooks are a waste of money. May God help you when that network card dies or goes bad. Then the entire device becomes completely worthless.

For most people, computers have already become just web browsers.
And I've never had a network card die.
 

Red Storm

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These Chromebooks are a waste of money. May God help you when that network card dies or goes bad. Then the entire device becomes completely worthless.

If my current laptop's network card died I'd consider it a useless device as well.
 

Dari

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For most people, computers have already become just web browsers.
And I've never had a network card die.

Perfection is when you've removed every superfluous component from a device so you are left with the bare essentials. So, yes, this may be the perfect web browser. But, if they sold it as that to you, would you buy it? I seriously doubt it. Let's face it, a computer is a swiss-army knife, not a dedicated machine. The network operating system belongs in the corporate environment. It will fail in the real world.
 

Fox5

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Perfection is when you've removed every superfluous component from a device so you are left with the bare essentials. So, yes, this may be the perfect web browser. But, if they sold it as that to you, would you buy it? I seriously doubt it. Let's face it, a computer is a swiss-army knife, not a dedicated machine. The network operating system belongs in the corporate environment. It will fail in the real world.

For $200 for something faster and smaller than anything available at double the price, yes, yes I would buy it. Not as my primary device, but it's a great secondary device, and if I'm not doing work (which I wouldn't on it) then a computer is just an Internet gateway.
 

Dari

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For $200 for something faster and smaller than anything available at double the price, yes, yes I would buy it. Not as my primary device, but it's a great secondary device, and if I'm not doing work (which I wouldn't on it) then a computer is just an Internet gateway.

I don't believe you. And neither does the market because these Chromebooks don't sell. As with all perfect things, once one of the essential components go down, it is useless. Or people will buy this on price and want to push it to its limits and find out they can't. Why? Because it's an INTERNET BROWSER. That limits it but it's not what the buyer really had in mind. They see a internet browser in the form of a laptop and think they are the same.

By the way, regular PCs are not double the price. They are $350 and up. And this device is only as fast as the flash drive and network chip and connection in it.
 

Dari

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I think you missed his point. A device without a net connection is as good as useless to some people.

It would be useless to him for an hour until he replaced the network card. With a Chromebook, he would have to buy a new Chromebook. So, which is a better deal, $250 for a new Chromebook or $10 for a new wireless USB device?
 

shortylickens

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Perfection is when you've removed every superfluous component from a device so you are left with the bare essentials. So, yes, this may be the perfect web browser. But, if they sold it as that to you, would you buy it? I seriously doubt it. Let's face it, a computer is a swiss-army knife, not a dedicated machine. The network operating system belongs in the corporate environment. It will fail in the real world.

If I am able to put my own Linux on it, fine. OR, if Google has world class support and can fix the bastard in a timely manner, that would be acceptable.
 

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I find the, "I already have tablets and ultrabooks." Excuse for not liking the chrome book a bit tiresome. I also have no need for a chrome book right now, it's still a cool piece of kit for £250, and I would say that for many people this would be the ideal computer. For me, possibly not the best device, but its pretty cool.
 

TuxDave

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Still no Netflix support for ARM, and its been a known issue since early October !! How long does it take to remove the Silverlight requirement and properly code it for either Flash or HTML5 ?? Seriously ..

Otherwise, my 9 y.o. daughter loves hers, but its annoying playing this waiting game for what I had hoped would be resolved by now.

Isn't that why you buy things based on what it can do NOW and not what you hope it can do later?

Anyways, I'm avoiding the Chromebook. The last time I heard the lines of "oh if you're just surfing and checking email, you'll be fine" was back when Netbooks were introduced. I will never waste money buying a cheap "good enough" product. You outgrow them very quickly.
 

Red Storm

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It would be useless to him for an hour until he replaced the network card. With a Chromebook, he would have to buy a new Chromebook. So, which is a better deal, $250 for a new Chromebook or $10 for a new wireless USB device?

You forgot to include the $700+ for the laptop. I could buy 3 Chromebooks for that price.

If you don't "get" why the Chromebook exists that's fine, but really there's no point trying to convince those of us who can make good use of one and save money that they'd be better off spending way more money on a traditional laptop.
 

Fox5

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I don't believe you. And neither does the market because these Chromebooks don't sell. As with all perfect things, once one of the essential components go down, it is useless. Or people will buy this on price and want to push it to its limits and find out they can't. Why? Because it's an INTERNET BROWSER. That limits it but it's not what the buyer really had in mind. They see a internet browser in the form of a laptop and think they are the same.

By the way, regular PCs are not double the price. They are $350 and up. And this device is only as fast as the flash drive and network chip and connection in it.

There are PCs under $350 as well. But the Chromebook has a much better user experience (imo) than any computer without a solid state drive (even though the Acer chromebook has a hard drive), and those all start at a minimum of like $600. Chromebooks are fast, because the OS is so stripped down.

I've never had a wireless card fail. The only parts I've ever had fail in a notebook are the harddrive and the screen. And at $200, a Chromebook is practically a throw away computer like a tablet, if it lasts a few years it was well worth it.

I don't need more than a web browser on 99% of my usage, and I have a primary computer (a desktop in my case) for when I need more. My email is through a browser. I read things through a browser. I watch movies and listen to music through a browser. I create documents in a browser. I can play games in a browser. I can even do limited coding within a browser if I just want to do some quick scripting.
And worst case, the $200 Acer chromebook is still a full x86 computer with great specs (better than Atom or E-350) for the price and I can throw Ubuntu on it. At that point, there are no limitations.

You won't find any other computer that's as cheap with specs and build quality as good as the new Chromebooks. They're super light weight, have good battery life, great (user) performance.

And I think you'll be surprised on the market performance of these chromebooks at the new lower pricepoints.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-E...nav_e_2_541966
The Samsung Chromebook is Amazon's top selling laptop (with the 3g model at #15), and it's been out of stock for basically the last 2 months. The Acer is currently #12. Both are selling way over their MSRPs, showing demand is high. They're sold out in almost every Best Buy.
Chromebooks weren't worth it when they cost as much as a PC or more. But the new slim form factors with slim price points are perfect, they're PCs that do less, cost less, and are more mobile. It's a market segment that should have been served by tablets but was hampered by crappy hardware (inferior build quality, Intel Atom processors), a bad OS for the hardware/form factor (Windows has always been bloated both in UI and performance), and lack of widely available low cost models. Tablets are taking over low end PC sales because they're cheap and offer a better low end experience. Chromebooks are an attempt to bring the keyboard back to a market Microsoft abandoned.
 

you2

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I gotta agree with Dari - if the hardware dies on my phone, tablet or chrome book it is kind of worthless. So Dari you should probably get rid of all your worthless gadgets since they hang by the thread of functional hardware
 

s44

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You realize you're arguing against an irrational Samsung-hater, right? But yeah, this:
I gotta agree with Dari - if the hardware dies on my phone, tablet or chrome book it is kind of worthless. So Dari you should probably get rid of all your worthless gadgets since they hang by the thread of functional hardware

a chromebook with i3 would satisfy 95% of laptop users, but the ones out now are barely better than netbooks, which are the same price.
A Chromebook with i3 would be $400, require active cooling, a heavier/shorter-lived battery, and totally defeat the purpose.

Now wishing for a Chromebook with quad A15... more realistic.
 
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ponyo

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Isn't that why you buy things based on what it can do NOW and not what you hope it can do later?

Anyways, I'm avoiding the Chromebook. The last time I heard the lines of "oh if you're just surfing and checking email, you'll be fine" was back when Netbooks were introduced. I will never waste money buying a cheap "good enough" product. You outgrow them very quickly.

I knew about Netflix and Skype problems. But we don't use either so it's non-issue with us. If it's fixed, great. If not, fine too.

This Chromebook is what I always wanted Netbook to be. Sadly I never found the perfect Netbook. Til now. I own two Netbooks. I had one POS Acer that died within the first year. I never even bothered with fixing it under warranty since it was a piece of shIt. I replaced it with Asus and while it was better than Acer, it wasn't much better. All Netbooks I tried were slow and unresponsive even for basic tasks and web browsing. But I dealt with it since the Netbook I really wanted, Macbook Air was $1100. I always felt Macbook Air was the perfect Netbook for browsing the web, checking email, and light document work. And the form factor was just about perfect. Chromebook is all that plus it's even better than Macbook Air since it doesn't even have fan and has the option of 3G radio. I absolutely love the silence and how the notebook barely gets warm. Lack of any moving parts like hard drive means I don't have to worry about durability and hard drive dying. Everything is instant, fast, and responsive. Full desktop web browsing, speed, and keyboard is great. Battery life is awesome and I can use it basically all day. It is Macbook Air for people who only wanted it for web, email, documents, pictures, and other light tasks. I wasn't willing to pay $1100 for just for that use but $250 Macbook Air is perfect. And I don't even have to deal with the heat and fan like I would on the Air.

People have different needs and Chromebook isn't for everyone. But for someone looking for specialized Macbook Air, there's not a better machine especially for the price.
 
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