AMD haters will naturally spin things to make AMD be shown in the worst possible light.
LMAO!!
Intel haters will naturally spin things to make Intel be shown in the worst possible light.
Samsung was the supplier of application processors (APs) for the iPhone 5, but Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company was selected as the AP supplier for the iPhone 6. Apple is planning, however, to use Samsung's production process of 14-nm FinFETs again for the next iPhone.
In addition, Apple reportedly asked Samsung to supply APs for the Apple Watch, which is scheduled to be released early next year. The fact that the Korean tech giant is working to develop a single-chip solution that integrates Exynos and modem chips to stop Qualcomm's dominance increases the possibility of the cooperation between the two tech companies.
AMD itself is already pretty good at doing that.AMD haters will naturally spin things to make AMD be shown in the worst possible light.
LMAO!!
We ll know better about TSMC in a few days, this may push Samsung/GF to also spread some infos, anyway it looks like AMD is switching everything to GF for the next gen chips, no mention of AMD for TSMC s 16nm early adopters.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20141202PD203.html
AMD itself is already pretty good at doing that.
This is a hardware forum. Criticizing any hardware company is fair game.AMD are going through some tuff times. They still make good chips that do everything people need them to do. There is no honor in kicking a man while hes down, as a matter of fact its quite pathetic and just shows the weakness of the attacking individual.
This is a hardware forum. Criticizing any hardware company is fair game.
No. If you disagree with someone, then provide a rebuttal. That's how forums work.Depend of the "arguments"...
This is a hardware forum. Criticizing any hardware company is fair game.
A new reg calling me a shill. And you were saying something about personal attacks?
What was your user name before you got banned?
Kim Ki-nam, president of Samsung's semiconductor business and head of System LSI business, said production is going very well for its 14-nanometre FinFET foundry. However, Kim did not say which client it is producing the chips for.
Samsung begins 14nm contract chip production
http://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-begins-14-nm-contract-chip-production/
Has anything changed from http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36944103#post36944103?
So Apple A9 will be the only 1st generation foundry FinFET in 2015 with, some more high-end volume following in 2016 while anything lower stays on 28 and 20nm.
Great for Intel when they ramp SoFIA early next year to destroy those in-order A53s. Broxton should also not have any competition if Intel executes top-notch, but since this is a nascent market for Intel, it might take a bit longer until they hit the nail right; like their foundry business:
1-on-1 With Intel’s Foundry Chief
If 10nm is not delayed, Intel will take over massive volume in 2017 from ARM. Good times to be an Intel investor...
SE: How would you compare yourself to TSMC now?
Rikhi: They have the experience and wisdom of being in the industry for 30 years as a full service foundry. But our heart is in the right place. Customers are teaching us. And the ecosystem partners are teaching us. So we are learning very fast, but we don’t pretend to know how to spin services as well as they do. But on the technology side, there is no question. We have the best technology. For example, before and at 22nm, we had the best transistors, but not the best interconnects. We’ve changed that. At 14nm, we have an entire generation of new technology. So for power and performance, and the economic benefit of Moore’s Law, we are the ones to beat.
SE: Has it been more difficult to obtain foundry customers than previously thought?
Rikhi: Absolutely. There are people who thought all Intel had to do was to enter the business. And then, customers would come. In fact, there were those who thought people would beat our doors down and break them. And then, there were people who thought there was no way Intel is going to succeed in the foundry business, because of a number of concerns. For example, how can you trust Intel to obtain capacity and all of that kind of stuff? So you have both ends of the spectrum, but as it turns out, none of them are true. It’s somewhere in the middle. I get to talk to everybody because of the technology that is in our pocket, but I don’t get to walk away with contracts. It is far more than the technology we have to sell for the customers to actually make a switch. And that’s something a lot of people don’t appreciate and understand.
Great for Intel when they ramp SoFIA early next year to destroy those in-order A53s.
But I really doubt the OEM's will change to Intel for any high volume models next year. I haven't seen any signs of this. Especially since Intel say they won't use contra revenue for smartphones (understandable since volume is more than one billion a year).
Depend of the "arguments"...
You are optimistic as always about Intel in smartphones, Witeken. But I really doubt the OEM's will change to Intel for any high volume models next year. I haven't seen any signs of this. Especially since Intel say they won't use contra revenue for smartphones (understandable since volume is more than one billion a year).
2014/12/12 By Bae Ok-jin
Samsung Electronics began production of 'A9,' the application processor (AP) for Apple's next-generation smartphone. It applies the 14nm FinFET, the cutting-edge microprocess for system semiconductors, for the first time. SEC's foundry business picked up momentum again.
According to industry insiders on December 11, SEC began production of Apple's A9 in the Austin plant in the US using the 14nm FinFET technology. Samsung has production lines capable of FinFET process production in Austin, US and Giheung, Korea, but began to produce A9 only in Austin as it is in the initial stage.
Is this Austin fab the same that Idontcare said wasn't in HVM?