Sweepr: You should read anandtech Exynos 5433 review. The Mali T760MP8 is not really running at 700 mhz. There are more details in the article but under common usage it will be 600 mhz.
Sweepr: You should read anandtech Exynos 5433 review. The Mali T760MP8 is not really running at 700 mhz. There are more details in the article but under common usage it will be 600 mhz.
On the other hand, Manhattan is up to 55% more ALU heavy depending on the scene of the benchmark.
...The result is that power draw in Manhattan on the 5433 is coming in at a whopping 6.07W, far ahead of the 5.35W that is consumed in the T-Rex test. Manhattan should actually be the less power hungry test on this architecture if the tests were to be run at the same frequency and voltages.
Andrei said:Some Koreans are saying 29fps MH / 59fps Trex. Not sure how accurate that is but the same source got the GeekBench results correct before it was public too.
Improved performance and power efficiency due to both reduced bandwidth usage and increases in effective usable bandwidth by help of ARM Frame-Buffer Compression (AFBC).
AnandTech said:We'd like to mention that there has been a big overhaul in BaseMark OS II in a recent December release, fixing various issues regarding score computation, and it also introduced changes in the benchmarks themselves. As such, the new scores are not directly comparable to reviews published in the past.
Samsung announced the commencement of mass-production of Exynos 7 series mobile SoCs, the first to be built on the company's swanky 14 nanometer FinFET silicon fabrication process. The chip will be formally launched in the run up to launch of Samsung's next-generation flagship smartphone, the Galaxy S6. Samsung now has the only active semiconductor fab, other than Intel, to get its silicon lithography down to 14 nm.
Unlike with some previous generations of Galaxy S-series devices, in which the company's homebrew Exynos family of chips drove non-LTE versions of the device, while Qualcomm Snapdragon chips were used to drive the LTE versions, Samsung could deploy Exynos 7 on both variants.
There are no performance figures on the Exynos 7 yet, but Samsung claims that with the 14 nm process, power consumption is down by 35 percent over the previous generation, and "productivity" is up by 30 percent. The Exynos 7 is expected to be a 64-bit ARM big.LITTLE chip, with enough horsepower to drive 1440p smartphones and 4K Ultra HD tablets.
While the Exynos 7 Octa processor lineup will be among the first to see the shift from 20nm to 14nm, Samsung says the technology will be used in additional products later in 2015.
Already? It seems like just yesterday that we started using 20nm, and 14nm is already starting mass production?? I mean, even Intel is just starting to trickle out 14nm.
Did Samsung just substantially shrink Intel's process lead, or is this press release full of hot air?
20nm at Samsung was considerably late. Remember the rumours about the S5? It was supposed to come with the 5430, but that didn't end up shipping till August.Already? It seems like just yesterday that we started using 20nm, and 14nm is already starting mass production?? I mean, even Intel is just starting to trickle out 14nm.
Did Samsung just substantially shrink Intel's process lead, or is this press release full of hot air?
Commencement of mass production for a phone that will be released quite soon? Will there be versions of the S6 with other SoCs?
There 2 things to consider:
1) Transistor and process characteristics. What Samsung calls 14nm (st gen FinFET, -15% shrink) is vastly different from what Intel calls 14nm (2nd gen FinFET -55% shrink).
2) Quantity. The SGS6 is only a single phone. There already multiple Broadwells on the market since November with numerous announcements at CES for Q1 availability, with BDW-H and Iris coming in Q2, SKL-S/K in Q3 and SKL-U/Y(/H?) in Q4 (and BDW-E in Q1'16).
So when SKL is available, only then will TSMC start its production, so 14/16 GPUs, and really the bulk of the 20+FF volume (lower tier products), will launch in '16 (Qualcomm, MediaTek, AMD).
But I guess it's nonetheless a pretty good accomplishment of Samsung that it can launch its FinFET version of 20nm less than a year after the regular 20nm. Maybe the foundries' 10nm node will indeed launch in 2017 in good volume.
Who cares, indeed ? It are low performance phone SoCs. No GPUs, no APUs, no IGPs, no FPGAs, no CPUs.
Er, where was the downplay in that comment?Why constantly downplay this? Its here alright and far earlier than we thought just 6 month ago. We are seeing a huge change here imo.
Look eg how qcom reduced their forecast.
But anyway its great news ! I can officially say this now:
I plan to merry this Soc.
Er, where was the downplay in that comment?
Who cares?
Intel is still shipping 22nm phone parts and won't have a 14nm phone part until 2016.
Cherry Trail, but that one's not coming to phones (but that has nothing to do with the CPU/GPU/power).Does Intel have anything in 1H 2015 that will perform competitively in a smartphone power profile?
Chipsets are arguably one of the main components that drive innovation forward in the mobile space. The formula is simple: the more processing power you have, the more things you can pull off efficiently. In the past 7 years, we’ve seen smartphone chipsets evolve from single-core CPUs clocked at 412MHz to our current behemoths of power with clock speeds over 2Ghz and up to 8 cores–all in a 64 bit package to boot.
Now Samsung’s solutions haven’t been as “stable” compared to the opposition. They have been extremely competitive in some cases, and in some they were top-notch choices. Sometimes, the OEM has dropped the ball. The first phone to see an Exynos chip was the original Galaxy S. Ever since, their major releases have offered an Exynos variant in some form or another. If a chipset’s grace comes from the performance it provides, off the bat we would be justified in being skeptical of Samsung. The TouchWiz user interface was overly heavy and bloated for several years, dragging down system performance. They sought out to fix that in their Lollipop builds, and we analyzed TouchWiz’s 5.0 performance in the past with excellent results. Nevertheless, they are primarily a hardware manufacturer, and thus their expertise would understandably be focused on the phone’s components rather than the software they power.
So what made Samsung’s offerings so special? How did they innovate, if at all? And where are they heading with their 2015 releases?
All wrong.I don't know why people keep saying Samsung's 14nm isn't "real" 14nm... the density is comparable (favorably) with intel's 14nm and it appears to run much cooler and leak less...
Here's an interesting article about Exynos and Samsung SoC history, from the 32-bit S5PC110 SoC (Exynos 3 Single) to the latest Exynos 5433/7420 (Exynos 7 Octa):
Exynos Past and Future: An Old Chip Comes of Age
http://www.xda-developers.com/exynos-past-and-future-an-old-chip-comes-of-age
This also brings up the question, where are they going next? The Exynos 7420 is already relatively high-clocked at 2.1GHz, I'm not sure if they can push A57/A53 much further. Samsung was the first to A57/A53 and Qualcomm is shipping A72 in consumer devices in the second half of this year. For those who missed, Mediatek is also doing it, the MT8173 is a 2+4 big.LITTLE A72/A53 and could be their rumoured 16nm FF chip. The SoC powering Galaxy Note 5 in Q4/2015 could be one of (if not the) first 14nm 4+4 big.LITTLE A72/A53 SoC.
On the other hand the first A72 licensees are HiSilicon, MediaTek and Rockchip (no mention of Samsung) and it's a known fact that Samsung has been developing a custom ARM core for quite some time now, perhaps it will finally debut later this year. Either way, interesting times ahead.
Ps: Another Exynos 5433 vs Exynos 7420 vs Snapdragon 810 comparison:
- Geekbench 3
Snapdragon 810 @ LG G Flex 2 (64-bit Android 5.0.1): 3965 MT / 1222 ST
Exynos 7420 @ Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge (64-bit Android 5.0.2): 5375 MT / 1495 ST
Exynos 5433 @ Galaxy Note 4 (32-bit Android 4.4.4): 4576 MT / 1298 ST
- AnTuTu
Snapdragon 810 @ LG G Flex 2 (64-bit Android 5.0.1): 54251
Exynos 7420 @ Samsung Galaxy S6 (64-bit Android 5.0.2): 60978
Exynos 5433 @ Galaxy Note 4 (32-bit Android 4.4.4): 52219
Exynos 5433 @ Galaxy Note 4 (32-bit Android 5.0.2): 55204
- 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited (Overall)
Snapdragon 810 @ LG G Flex 2 (64-bit Android 5.0.1): 22048
Exynos 5433 @ Galaxy Note 4 (32-bit Android 4.4.4): 20276
Sammobile said:The second generation of the Super AMOLED display-toting Galaxy Tab S tablets is in the works at Samsung, and as we revealed earlier this week, the Galaxy Tab S 2 will come in 8-inch and 9.7-inch flavors (with model numbers SM-T710 and SM-T810) and will be thinner than Apple’s iPad Air 2. Today, we have information of the full spec sheets of the two tablets, thanks to our trusty insiders.
Under the hood, our source tells us that both variants will be powered by an Exynos 5433 processor, though this might be upgraded to an Exynos 7420 because the tablets will run Android 5.0.2 out of the box and hence support 64-bit processing (something the Exynos 5433 lacks). Cat.6 LTE (up to 300 Mbps) connectivity will be on-board thanks to Samsung’s in-house LTE modem; battery capacities on the 8 and 9.7-inch models is said to be 3,580 mAh and 5,870 mAh, but these aren’t final just yet and could change before the tablets are released.
Other specs of the Galaxy Tab S 2 duo will include an 8-megapixel rear camera, a 2.1-megapixel front-facing camera, 3GB of RAM, and 32GB of storage expandable by up to 128GB through a microSD slot. The 8-inch model has dimensions of 198.2×134.5×5.4 and the 9.7-inch model comes in at 237.1×168.8×5.4, and both are considerably light at 260g and 407g.
...The Galaxy Tab S 2 looks like just the right upgrade over its predecessor, with Samsung fixing previous weak points like an outdated processor and a not-so-premium design. It remains to be seen when the two Tab S 2 tablets will be made official, though a mid-2015 release is likely.
AnandTech said:Also in my initial article I shared my opinion that I doubted that Samsung would update the Exynos 5433 Note 4 to AArch64 - this was based on the fact that the kernel treats the SoC as an A7/A15 part and most of the software stack remained 32-bit. Events since then seem to point out that they will eventually upgrade it to 64-bit, since we're seeing official patches in upstream Linux with the chip being introduced with a full ARMv8 device tree. This is interesting to see and might point out that Samsung will go the effort to upgrade the BSPs to AArch64;
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 2 8-inch and 9.7-inch specifications
The news writer is clearly not aware of this - there is evidence that Samsung will upgrade Exynos 5433 to AArch64:
Considering Galaxy Note 3's Exynos 5420 powers the first-gen Galaxy Tab S (and not Galaxy S5's Exynos 5422 which was alredy on the market) it makes perfect sense to me that Exynos 5433 will end up in Galaxy Tab S 2.
www.sammobile.com/2015/02/19/exclusive-samsung-galaxy-tab-s-2-8-inch-and-9-7-inch-specifications
agree; The 14nm parts is more needed in s6 than in a huge tablet and the prior production volume of 5433 fits tab s2 it seems.
Damn i am not going fin fet less. And even a57 seems a bit little now. I want a72 14nm !!!! Lol i am still a sucker for cpu perf so not this tab then (i dont need it anyway but hey if its interesting on the soc side lol)