Samsung Galaxy Nexus specs leaked

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slayer202

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so many spec rumors who knows what to believe. but if Verizon is getting a dumbed down version of the phone, I'm not going to be very happy
 

obidamnkenobi

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no sd slot. hmmm.

--so, the sgs2 can go up to (with sdxc confirmed to work) 80gb, and more and more in the future, faster SoC but slower GPU?

--i like the fact that SGS2 is smaller (sgs2 is starting to feel a bit big to me, haha), and with ICS presumably updatable soon enough, I'm not sure what I'd be missing out on

--lower resolution on SGS2, but "better camera," same video recording capability, perhaps.

outside of the purported GSM/CDMA version with LTE, I see no reason, personally, to want this. :\

Samsung updating SGS2 to ICS while they're selling the only other ICS phone? yeah, good luck with that.. Even without that disincentive they barely bothered to update the first galaxy S. Wouldn't hold my breath.
 

s44

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Samsung updating SGS2 to ICS while they're selling the only other ICS phone? yeah, good luck with that.. Even without that disincentive they barely bothered to update the first galaxy S. Wouldn't hold my breath.
You do realize that the Galaxy S1 was the first or second non-Nexus officially updated to Gingerbread.

Now the US versions, of course, that's another story...
 

Fire&Blood

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so many spec rumors who knows what to believe. but if Verizon is getting a dumbed down version of the phone, I'm not going to be very happy

Actually the fake rumors are mostly amateur material, random guessing and counter-rumoring. Very easy to see through because people tend to ignore basic Nexus facts:

-It's a developer phone. Google's idea behind it is to make "a perfect match" between hardware and software. As a developer phone, Nexus cannot be exclusive to any carrier. None of the versions for different carriers will vary from each other except for their radio abilities. Most likely, when the chipset that can incorporate most bands is widely available, there will only be one Nexus version.

Some still think a Samsung phone can't have the OMAP4 but it's actually Google that determines every each aspect of the phone. Andy Rubin described the process of Nexus phone in detail. It seems that they pick the chip maker early on as that would explain why they didn't make the best choice.

It will get worse though, with each new phone the fake rumors will get more sophisticated.

Either way, it's good news if the reference platform that ranks below top phones can still deliver the ICS as Google intended.
 

Red Storm

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Every piece I've read on the exclusivity of this phone has always mentioned it being temporary. Verizon probably paid a pretty penny to have it first to boost sales/subs.
 

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Samsung updating SGS2 to ICS while they're selling the only other ICS phone? yeah, good luck with that.. Even without that disincentive they barely bothered to update the first galaxy S. Wouldn't hold my breath.

You do realize that the Galaxy S1 was the first or second non-Nexus officially updated to Gingerbread.

Now the US versions, of course, that's another story...

mine is the int'l version, so I assume I'll have it earlier than the carrier versions.

also, I can see where if Samsung is really trying to enforce the competition with Apple, and when the new 4S benchmarks start showing domination of SGS2 with a more developed OS, Samsung will have all the more incentive to push ICS out to their current baby (SGS2) in hopes of bringing things back to level.

that is, of course, if ICS truly does represent a serious upgrade in performance.
 
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Bryf50

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OMAP4460=PowerVR SGX 540, same GPU as last year's Nexus. While that's a good indicator of ICS efficiency, the hardware is not a good value. If one must have ICS and official updates by all means, go get it. If that chip can push ICS smoothly on a HD screen then SGS2 updated to ICS should blaze through at WVGA and with better hardware.
Not exactly the same gpu. The SGX 540 in the Nexus S runs at 200mhz. The one in the OMAP4460 runs at 384mhz. That's a pretty huge bump in performance. We actually haven't seen many devices with the 540 clocked that high. My guess is it'll perform better then people think.
 

YoungGun21

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Not exactly the same gpu. The SGX 540 in the Nexus S runs at 200mhz. The one in the OMAP4460 runs at 384mhz. That's a pretty huge bump in performance. We actually haven't seen many devices with the 540 clocked that high. My guess is it'll perform better then people think.

Correction, that's a huge bump in clockspeed. Who knows how it will translate to performance.

Good thing my upgrade date is 12/29 so I get to wait to see how this thing pans out before I buy. I probably would have bought it Day 1 if I was eligible to upgrade.
 

basslover1

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Correction, that's a huge bump in clockspeed. Who knows how it will translate to performance.

Good thing my upgrade date is 12/29 so I get to wait to see how this thing pans out before I buy. I probably would have bought it Day 1 if I was eligible to upgrade.

Same here, my next upgrade is 1/13/12 so I get to see what happens around the holidays, as well as anything slated for Q1 12.
 

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Damn it, if the no SD slot is true that could kill it for me. I need my next phone to be an all-in-one device and that requires as much storage as possible for music, etc.

Looks like I'll have to stick my carrier's SGS2 variant (same as the Verizon one apparently) since I can at least get that to 48GB right away. A shame as this phone looks even cooler than the SGS2.

KT
 

YoungGun21

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While I agree that it stinks that there may be no SD slot, I'm still (always have been & will be) confused as to why people want so much storage on their phone. 32GB built in won't be enough? I seriously use less than 5GB. If I were to add my entire music collection, I doubt I would even fill up a 16GB card. If I did that and actually used my camera a lot, maybe throw on 4 more gigs. Still would have plenty of room left on that 32GB storage.
 

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While I agree that it stinks that there may be no SD slot, I'm still (always have been & will be) confused as to why people want so much storage on their phone. 32GB built in won't be enough? I seriously use less than 5GB. If I were to add my entire music collection, I doubt I would even fill up a 16GB card. If I did that and actually used my camera a lot, maybe throw on 4 more gigs. Still would have plenty of room left on that 32GB storage.

I will need to trim down my audio to squeeze it in at 48GB unfortunately and that's not even counting all of the other apps and whatnot that will be taking up space. Ideally I would like something closer to 100GB, but I seem to be in the minority these days.

KT
 
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I hate the OMAP processors. Don't know what it is but their interface just feels sluggish compared to the Galaxy S/S2.

I played on my friend's droid bionic, has the same frames per second lag that my OG Droid has, albiet not as bad because it's running at 1ghz, but definitely still there.

Looks like next for me will be a Galaxy S2 or some non-OMAP based CPU.
 

Fire&Blood

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I will need to trim down my audio to squeeze it in at 48GB unfortunately and that's not even counting all of the other apps and whatnot that will be taking up space. Ideally I would like something closer to 100GB, but I seem to be in the minority these days.
KT

I don't have that much music on the desktop. I have 2 folders of music and 1 of video I copy over to phones, 14GB total and I thought that was excessive.
100GB wow.
 
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Have you used WP7? They have the old GPU from the original Snapdragon, and the UI is fluid as can be. Properly implemented GPU acceleration in the UI does not require the iPhone 4s's dual core GPU.

I don't think it's a GPU problem I think it's something with the OMAP implementations-- smaller FPU IIRC compared to the Galaxy S processor-- Omap 4430 feels laggy despite having the Galaxy S GPU inside. Galaxy S feels snappy despite being single core.
 

Bateluer

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I will need to trim down my audio to squeeze it in at 48GB unfortunately and that's not even counting all of the other apps and whatnot that will be taking up space. Ideally I would like something closer to 100GB, but I seem to be in the minority these days.

KT

Are you using lossless encoding or are you storing all the music in Vorbis/MP3/etc?

I hate the OMAP processors. Don't know what it is but their interface just feels sluggish compared to the Galaxy S/S2.

I think the OMAP CPUs are actually the fastest, clock for clock, vs Exynos and Snapdragons. Samsung and Qualcomm seem to actually design and implement better CPUs though, whereas TI just rehashes the older PowerVR GPUs. A year ago, the SGX540 was still among the most powerful, but its now being asked to do a LOT more than it was then.

I played on my friend's droid bionic, has the same frames per second lag that my OG Droid has, albiet not as bad because it's running at 1ghz, but definitely still there.

That's MotoBlur dragging down the Bionic, saw the same thing on a co-worker's Bionic, behavior the T-bolt/CM7/ADWEx doesn't display.

Edit - The SGS1's also were extremely laggy, with the 1Ghz Hummingbird/SGX540, mostly due to the the RFS file system. But also due to Samsung's TouchWiz implementation and issues between it and 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1, and 2.2.2.
 
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and?

every phone since the origional Droid X has been fast enough to do everything, benchmarks are pointless

I still don't know an android phone that can scroll up and down a graphic-rich page like Anandtech at 60fps like the Iphone 3GS can, do you?
 
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Also, going by the release of the Galaxy S2 overseas, people were paying close to $900 USD at launch for the phone. Then it settled down to $800 or so I think. I would buy an international phone, but no way I am paying $800 for one.

that sounds about right taking into account the exchange rate and Eurotaxes
 

Bateluer

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I still don't know an android phone that can scroll up and down a graphic-rich page like Anandtech at 60fps like the Iphone 3GS can, do you?

Yes. Pretty much all of them, definitely all the currently shipping ones.

My T-bolt just did it perfectly smooth, once the page loaded all the way. Only 1 bar of 3G here.
 
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OMAP4460=PowerVR SGX 540, same GPU as last year's Nexus. While that's a good indicator of ICS efficiency, the hardware is not a good value. If one must have ICS and official updates by all means, go get it. If that chip can push ICS smoothly on a HD screen then SGS2 updated to ICS should blaze through at WVGA and with better hardware.

does all ICS require 1280x720?
 
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