Samsung Galaxy S II - First Look (video)

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Those could be real numbers for AT&T's 4G though. You have to look at more than just the moniker. AT&T's HSPA+ is only rated for up to 6mbps, which is actually slower than their regular HSPA speeds.

T-mobile's initial HSPA+ is rated for speeds up to 14.1mbps and is now moving up to 21mbps (only the revised Samsung Galaxy S works up to those speeds though). Verizon's LTE speeds are rated similarly to T-mobile's.

How is HSPA+ only rated for 6mbps when AT&T has already deployed HSDPA 7.2mbps and repeated its 7.2mbps deployment when it announced "5 Android phones" last year during MWC?

 

[Strk]

How is HSPA+ only rated for 6mbps when AT&T has already deployed HSDPA 7.2mbps and repeated its 7.2mbps deployment when it announced "5 Android phones" last year during MWC?

I don't really know what to tell you, but this is from AT&T's site:

Question:
Just how fast is AT&T 4G?
Answer:
With enhanced backhaul AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6 Mbps. Actual speeds experienced will vary and depend on several factors, including location, device, environment, and capacity. LTE is expected to deliver even faster speeds.

Note: 4G speeds require a 4G device and are delivered when HSPA+ technology is combined with enhanced backhaul. 4G speeds are available in select cities with availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. For information on currently available 4G markets, see 4G Speed from AT&T and select the Coverage map.

 

[Judgement]

Well, just got my Atrix today, and I honestly think all the complaint about the display is exaggerated. It looks great to me.

What phone were you using before this? How does the screen compare?

If you want to give a short review of your experience with it so far (battery life/network speed test/any stuttering, etc) that would be great

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I don't really know what to tell you, but this is from AT&T's site:

Shrug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access

HSDPA provides downstream of up to 14.4mbps. The iPhone 3GS already had 7.2mbps HSDPA.

As for HSUPA, there's devices like the BB Tour with 5.76mbps already.

HSPA+ like what T-Mo announced and their fake 4G is for 21mbps and above. Perhaps AT&T is quoting 6mbps so we all don't complain our asses off when they don't hit the supposed 21mbps rating

 

[Strk]

Shrug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access

HSDPA provides downstream of up to 14.4mbps. The iPhone 3GS already had 7.2mbps HSDPA.

As for HSUPA, there's devices like the BB Tour with 5.76mbps already.

HSPA+ like what T-Mo announced and their fake 4G is for 21mbps and above. Perhaps AT&T is quoting 6mbps so we all don't complain our asses off when they don't hit the supposed 21mbps rating

A lot of the phones on AT&T support HSUPA, but it's disabled except on the iphone. But I'm not sure the point of your post, because it still doesn't explain why AT&T is running their HSPA+ at almost a quarter of the speed of T-mobile.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

A lot of the phones on AT&T support HSUPA, but it's disabled except on the iphone. But I'm not sure the point of your post, because it still doesn't explain why AT&T is running their HSPA+ at almost a quarter of the speed of T-mobile.

Do you have benches showing people getting 4x faster on T-Mobile? I don't think so. I easily get 3-4mbps downstream on HSDPA. This isn't even HSPA+. If you're telling me people on T-Mobile are getting over 10mbps, I'd be very surprised.

I don't know why AT&T is disabling HSUPA on their phones. I've gotten 1-2mbps upstream plenty of times.

What I'm trying to say is that if HSDPA/HSUPA is already rated for 7.2mbps down and whatever it is upstream, I don't get why HSPA+ is only rated for 6mbps on their website. HSPA+ was designed to take speeds to 14.4 and 21mbps.

Either way, the Atrix's slow speeds might also be a software problem. HSUPA may be disabled or whatever, but even the downstream speeds are terrible compared to the iPhone according to Engadget's review

 

[shabby]

I don't know why AT&T is disabling HSUPA on their phones. I've gotten 1-2mbps upstream plenty of times.

So when they enable hsupa it'll look like they upgraded their network to 4g.
"Whoa im getting 2mbps uploads now with 4g... i love att!"