Samsung Galaxy S3

[Bateluer]

No, it wont.
I only want either Exynos 5250, OMAP5, or Intel.
All others are irrelevant.

Bold statement with so few hard numbers available.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

I have my doubts about 32nm Cortex A-15 without support cores not burning through the average phone battery. Realistically we wont see these in phones until late 2012 or early 2013 when 28nm is stable or a big.little configuration is available

OMAP5 is not that impressive either. Its GPU is equivalent to A5X but by 2013 we are looking at PowerVR Series 6 and Mali T658.

Waiting for a good Android OEM to pick up ST-Ericssons A9600 SOC. That one is a beast

 

[dguy6789]

Bold statement with so few hard numbers available.

Bold is a lot nicer(and less honest) way of putting it than I would have.

 

[Bateluer]

I have my doubts about 32nm Cortex A-15 without support cores not burning through the average phone battery. Realistically we wont see these in phones until late 2012 or early 2013 when 28nm is stable or a big.little configuration is available

Shrug, people said the same thing about dual core A9s, and that turned out to be completely overblown, with improved battery life vs some of the single core A8s.

TI, Qualcomm, Nvidia, Samsung etc aren't stupid.

 

[lothar]

Bold statement with so few hard numbers available.

Heh.
It's not really bold...More like dotted white lines for now rather than a solid yellow line, but those are my preference so far. I also know that I'm probably going to skip the 2012 Nexus device but will consider the 2013 Nexus though.
I'm more interested in A15 and the Mali T658 GPU than anything else.
Samsung and LG are partners for the Mali GPU. None of other manufacturer I know are.

nVidia: They may be working on Tegra 4 behind the scenes but I haven't seen any news or details on it anywhere.

Exynos: 5250 is supposed to be paired with either the new Mali T658(I really hope) GPU or T604(Meh...).

Intel: Love their processors, but by the time they start shipping they would be behind everyone else. Hopefully they will catchup by the next year and a half or so when I'm ready to buy a new phone...Hopefully.

Qualcomm: The S4 may be A15 like but it still has old Adreno graphics. They won't be shipping the ones with updated GPU's until winter. By then we will already see offerings from nVidia and everyone else. Also from my understanding, the S4 is not a "real" A15 processor anyway.

OMAP5: No hard numbers, but I'm hearing a lot of rumors and speculation. I doubt the chip would be ready on time for the next "Nexus" device though.

I can wait until Spring-Fall '13 for a new phone. I'm not in no rush.

 

[lothar]

I have my doubts about 32nm Cortex A-15 without support cores not burning through the average phone battery. Realistically we wont see these in phones until late 2012 or early 2013 when 28nm is stable or a big.little configuration is available

OMAP5 is not that impressive either. Its GPU is equivalent to A5X but by 2013 we are looking at PowerVR Series 6 and Mali T658.

Waiting for a good Android OEM to pick up ST-Ericssons A9600 SOC. That one is a beast

I've never heard of the ST-Ericssons A9600 SOC.
I looked it up and I have to tell you...I'm impressed.
However, no quad core. :\

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

Shrug, people said the same thing about dual core A9s, and that turned out to be completely overblown, with improved battery life vs some of the single core A8s.

TI, Qualcomm, Nvidia, Samsung etc aren't stupid.

I meant that literally. Cortex A9 has the same die area as a Cortex A8. Cortex A15 is pretty big compared to both and upcoming GPUs are also big

Thats why none of the companies have announced Cortex A15s at 32 nm. Only Samsung and that is for a tablet with more space and a large battery. Because they arent stupid

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

I've never heard of the ST-Ericssons A9600 SOC.
I looked it up and I have to tell you...I'm impressed.
However, no quad core. :\

Yeah they will beat Apple to market with the Power Vr Series 6 GPU if they have a deal with an Android OEM. TI also has a series 6 license but given how slow they are with releasing their products i would not expect it from them before 2014

 

[dagamer34]

RGB pentile, 720p(or more), A15 are the big ones for me.
Whats the big deal with a ceramic body, anyway?

Samsung said last year that they are going to seal the phone in order to get a larger battery inside, much like the Droid RAZR.

 

[OS]

the HTC one basically will have a ceramic case also;

http://z6mag.com/technology/micro-a...-revealed-for-the-htc-one-s-video-166494.html

 

[A5]

Heh.
It's not really bold...More like dotted white lines for now rather than a solid yellow line, but those are my preference so far. I also know that I'm probably going to skip the 2012 Nexus device but will consider the 2013 Nexus though.
I'm more interested in A15 and the Mali T658 GPU than anything else.
Samsung and LG are partners for the Mali GPU. None of other manufacturer I know are.

nVidia: They may be working on Tegra 4 behind the scenes but I haven't seen any news or details on it anywhere.

Exynos: 5250 is supposed to be paired with either the new Mali T658(I really hope) GPU or T604(Meh...).

Intel: Love their processors, but by the time they start shipping they would be behind everyone else. Hopefully they will catchup by the next year and a half or so when I'm ready to buy a new phone...Hopefully.

Qualcomm: The S4 may be A15 like but it still has old Adreno graphics. They won't be shipping the ones with updated GPU's until winter. By then we will already see offerings from nVidia and everyone else. Also from my understanding, the S4 is not a "real" A15 processor anyway.

OMAP5: No hard numbers, but I'm hearing a lot of rumors and speculation. I doubt the chip would be ready on time for the next "Nexus" device though.

I can wait until Spring-Fall '13 for a new phone. I'm not in no rush.

Qualcomm has an ISA-level license from ARM. This means that they are allowed to make their own architecture based on the ARM instruction set. The other SoC makers have Architecture licenses, which means that they can only use the reference architectures from ARM, like the A8, A9, and A15.

Each style of license has its pros and cons, but I wouldn't say that one is better than the other. Qualcomm's S4 just so happened to go in the same general direction as A15, but the similarities end there.

 

[ilkhan]

Clock for clock A15 will almost certainly be faster than Krait.
But both are a ton faster than A9, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[Medu]

Heh.
It's not really bold...More like dotted white lines for now rather than a solid yellow line, but those are my preference so far. I also know that I'm probably going to skip the 2012 Nexus device but will consider the 2013 Nexus though.
I'm more interested in A15 and the Mali T658 GPU than anything else.
Samsung and LG are partners for the Mali GPU. None of other manufacturer I know are.

nVidia: They may be working on Tegra 4 behind the scenes but I haven't seen any news or details on it anywhere.

Exynos: 5250 is supposed to be paired with either the new Mali T658(I really hope) GPU or T604(Meh...).

Intel: Love their processors, but by the time they start shipping they would be behind everyone else. Hopefully they will catchup by the next year and a half or so when I'm ready to buy a new phone...Hopefully.

Qualcomm: The S4 may be A15 like but it still has old Adreno graphics. They won't be shipping the ones with updated GPU's until winter. By then we will already see offerings from nVidia and everyone else. Also from my understanding, the S4 is not a "real" A15 processor anyway.

OMAP5: No hard numbers, but I'm hearing a lot of rumors and speculation. I doubt the chip would be ready on time for the next "Nexus" device though.

I can wait until Spring-Fall '13 for a new phone. I'm not in no rush.

There is also the Nova A9600 from ST-Ericsson which seems to have slipped to 2013. It will be a dual core A15 with a series 6 PowerVR GPU- i.e much faster than the just released 543MP4.

 

[Bateluer]

There is also the Nova A9600 from ST-Ericsson which seems to have slipped to 2013. It will be a dual core A15 with a series 6 PowerVR GPU- i.e much faster than the just released 543MP4.

Sony has been using Qualcomm Snapdragons in most of their Xperia's though, I'd want to see if they can deliver using their own SoCs first.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

Sony has been using Qualcomm Snapdragons in most of their Xperia's though, I'd want to see if they can deliver using their own SoCs first.

ST-Ericsson is not under the Sony umbrella. Its an independent company

 

[smartpatrol]

Has any smartphone manufacturer actually used ST-Ericsson's SOC's recently? I remember reading about the NovaThor U8500 SOC ages ago. (http://www.stericsson.com/products/u8500-novathor.jsp)
It sounded great: A9 dual-core + Mali 400 graphics. I don't know if it ever got used in anything, though.

 

[sciwizam]

I think the Sony Sola, announced yesterday, uses the NovaThor U8500.

 

[lothar]

There is also the Nova A9600 from ST-Ericsson which seems to have slipped to 2013. It will be a dual core A15 with a series 6 PowerVR GPU- i.e much faster than the just released 543MP4.

Why is ST-Ericcson still using dual core A15 to represent it's high end in 2013 and not a quad core?

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

Why is ST-Ericcson still using dual core A15 to represent it's high end in 2013 and not a quad core?

Because they were too far along to implement a big.little setup on the SOC. I assume thats what you are talking about.

Because nobody except Nvidias marketing team sees any benefit with 4x A15

 

[ilkhan]

Because nobody except Nvidias marketing team sees any benefit with 4x A15

The Exynos 4412 is a quad core. Its just not in any released devices yet.

 

[ITHURTSWHENIP]

Exynos 4412 is not using Cortex A15. If Samsung does decide to use it then it will be to milk the mainstream "more cores must be better" logic. Nobody is going to use photoshop or video editing on a phone. For most mainstream tasks, a quad-core has no advantage over a dual-core.

 

[ilkhan]

Exynos 4412 is not using Cortex A15. If Samsung does decide to use it then it will be to milk the mainstream "more cores must be better" logic. Nobody is going to use photoshop or video editing on a phone. For most mainstream tasks, a quad-core has no advantage over a dual-core.

I thought you said quad core A9, since tegra isn't quad A15 either.

Another supposed SGSIII picture leak
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-pictured-may-22-london-unveiling-rumored

 

[Bateluer]

Exynos 4412 is not using Cortex A15. If Samsung does decide to use it then it will be to milk the mainstream "more cores must be better" logic. Nobody is going to use photoshop or video editing on a phone. For most mainstream tasks, a quad-core has no advantage over a dual-core.

This is a bad attitude, and also wrong. Gaming is mainstream, especially if you listen to some of the resident iFanatics here who constantly gripe that only iOS has good games. You need to get the hardware into consumer hands before developers will develop for the hardware . . . and under your logic, there's no need for that powerful hardware since developers aren't coding for it.

And finally, yes, people do actually do some light photo editing on their phones. The apps are available and I do routinely tweak snap shots.

Back on topic though, I grow weary of correcting people sometimes. Latest SGS3 rumor to hit the blogosphere.

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/2...ow-for-wireless-charging-up-to-2-meters-away/

Inductive charging from 2 meters away? I want.

 

[A5]

Back on topic though, I grow weary of correcting people sometimes. Latest SGS3 rumor to hit the blogosphere.

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/2...ow-for-wireless-charging-up-to-2-meters-away/

Inductive charging from 2 meters away? I want.

2m seems like a bit much, especially considering all current inductive chargers require physical contact to charge through the case (range is usually something like 5mm).

 

[Bateluer]

2m seems like a bit much, especially considering all current inductive chargers require physical contact to charge through the case (range is usually something like 5mm).

Its pretty obvious they've acquired alien tech.