The thing is those games and apps aren't getting any smaller and we've been stuck on 16GB as a base for 4-5 years now. Ridiculous.
I dunno. The majority of space I use is music and video. I drag those straight to the microSD. In fact, I loaded it up before inserting it into my phone. And my music apps detect it just fine afterward so it's not like I had to do anything "power user"-like.
The only scenario that's a problem is if you have a lot of large games. You'd need to be the hardcore type though because you can install a hundred of the standard games (not even casual) that only take up 50-100MB each.
It would have been nice for the GS4 to be 32GB standard.
I'm curious, does anyone here have 9GB of apps in their SD partition?
I don't think it should be the problem since most of us (me anyway!) actually use the phone not for playing games!Well, so long as they have 32GB and 64GB models in stores then it should alleviate some of the problems. But it sucks that those with 16GB models have to jump through hoops when it comes to space management. As someone else mentioned, developers are starting to take Android seriously as a gaming platform with quad cores and powerful GPUs, the worst thing that could happen would be to have all that power limited by space. It'll be like the Nintendo 64 debacle all over again. HTC and LG are starting to look good...
It would have been nice for the GS4 to be 32GB standard.
I'm curious, does anyone here have 9GB of apps in their SD partition?
Root and remove the crap.
I'll take a phone with a uSD slot any day over one without.
i have a 32 GB galaxy nexus and the only games i have on it are angry birds and robo def
space currently free 11 gigs
no music or vids on my phone
16 is too damn small
The HTC one comes with 32GB internal. You can use that space for anything without limitations.
So why don't you tell us what's using up bulk of that 32 gb if it's not games. Most apps other than couple large games are tiny. Do you have the entire Google Play app library on your phone? Or do you have like 10 of the useless nandroid backups on your phone.
16gb internal along with SD slot is fine for 99.99% of the people. If you're that .01% person, buy the 64gb internal version w/ SD slot. I don't see the problem when the 64gb version is available.
Where is the 64GB version available? Also, according to ATMD&G, power users got phones with replaceable batteries and mSD slots. But, in the end, you're limited to 8GB on the S4 for apps. Aren't power users in that 0.01%?
Exactly. And there are often tricks to move these large game download folders to the Micro SD.
Why would the Micro SD guaranteed be slower? Those new Samsung Class 10 Micro SD cards and the 64GB Class 10 Sandisk Micro SD cards are faster than the internal memory on almost any Android device.
My Transformer Prime's ROM has a kernel option to basically run everything off the Micro SD card to bypass internal storage that has way worse 4k write random speeds than the aforementioned Micro SD cards. Forget app2SD, everything to SD.
In fact I see that as the ultimate advantage of the Micro SD slot- as the MicroSD cards get larger and faster your phone can upgrade and not be left behind (to a certain extent). I could see me one day running everything off a 128GB Micro SD card and just leaving the internal memory for photos or something.
I'm of the opinion that "power users" don't really give a crap about mobile games, which are the only apps that take up tons of space (Aside from map apps, but Google Maps does the job well).
Power users simply run the script to swap the internal with microsd
Oh, I'm loving this. So, power users don't play games and they only need the mSD port, right?
AFAIK, some games such as Angry Birds can be moved over SD card. I know because I have 3 games of Angry Birds that are on my 32GB SD card. So the limitation actually is not either Samsung's or Google's fault but game developers' fault, isn't it?Apparently the SGS4 only comes with 16GB of space, of which only a ridiculous 8GB is available because of all the bloat. Yes, you can add a mSD card but that can only be used for data, not applications. Worse, if you buy products off of Google Play they can only go on the internal NAND. Also, mSD interface is slower than internal NAND and less reliable. What a waste. This is supposed to be a superphone compared to the iPhone? I don't know whether this limitation is Samsung or Google's fault but, either way, they're not communicating and this is a joke. Add in the terrible Samsung OLED screen and this device is not as awesome as others are making out to be. Seems like the HTC One is a better deal or, better yet, Optimus G Pro if you're on AT&T or T-Mobile.
Do you tell your customers that at the phone store?
Are you sure? Previous HTC phones were partitioned same or worse than Samsung phones. The only stock phones I know for sure that you can use the entire storage for anything are the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4.