Samsung Galaxy S6 hype thread

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OBLAMA2009

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Should have worded my comment better. The right decision to maximize sales in the flagship tier. A flagshp of flagships today needs to look and feel great. If they had some way to do a unibody with a removable battery that would have been great. But they couldn't.

I get that some users who actually use removable batteries will be dissapointed, but it's clear the vast majority of users don't carry around extra batteries. Good battery life and fast charging is more useful.

It sucks you and others fall outside their focus, but I understand why they chose to focus on the 90%, not the 10%.

I'm in your boat but for mSD - until storage stops having 10-20X markup, mSD is important.

why do people believe this? even my original motorola droid x had a removeable battery and it was very thin. samsung has had removeable batteries for years and their phones have been thin and light weight
 

dawheat

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why do people believe this? even my original motorola droid x had a removeable battery and it was very thin. samsung has had removeable batteries for years and their phones have been thin and light weight

Not sure what you're talking about. I was referring to their decisions to move to a unibody vs frame and cover. I like my Note 4, but I understand when people say the back doesn't look and feel as premium as a unibody like the z3 and m8.
 

lxskllr

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Not sure what you're talking about. I was referring to their decisions to move to a unibody vs frame and cover. I like my Note 4, but I understand when people say the back doesn't look and feel as premium as a unibody like the z3 and m8.

People are idiots. A cell phone is the ideal use for plastic. It's durable, looks reasonably good, and if you're a careless oaf that somehow manages to screw it up enough to look bad, it's easy and cheap to replace. I want a metal phone as much as I want glass bumpers on my car.
 

dawheat

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People are idiots. A cell phone is the ideal use for plastic. It's durable, looks reasonably good, and if you're a careless oaf that somehow manages to screw it up enough to look bad, it's easy and cheap to replace. I want a metal phone as much as I want glass bumpers on my car.

Heh I won't disagree that most consumers might be idiots. But that's another discussion.
 

Dari

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So no mSD; no battery; glass exterior; no longer waterproof? Hmmm, well, at least they debloated it. Also, with higher screen rez and same battery capacity, that means less battery life? Also, and most importantly, what's the price?

Looks like most of the changes were hardware, par for the courae for Samsung. SONY has taken the lead in battery longevity, what does this phone offer that others do not? What's its selling point?
 
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WelshBloke

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It's also not water and dust resistant. It's a form over function phone. aka an iPhone. I don't buy Apple, and I don't buy anything that apes Apple.

Maybe there's going to be an S6 active. I'd never bet against Samsung to release lots of versions of their flagship.

Should have worded my comment better. The right decision to maximize sales in the flagship tier. A flagshp of flagships today needs to look and feel great. If they had some way to do a unibody with a removable battery that would have been great. But they couldn't.

I get that some users who actually use removable batteries will be dissapointed, but it's clear the vast majority of users don't carry around extra batteries. Good battery life and fast charging is more useful.

It sucks you and others fall outside their focus, but I understand why they chose to focus on the 90%, not the 10%.

I'm in your boat but for mSD - until storage stops having 10-20X markup, mSD is important.

I'm not absolutely stuck on having a removable battery it's just that Samsung phones have fairly small batteries stock but you can replace those with good quality high capacity replacements. If they are going to remove that option then they should have increased the base capacity by a fair bit.
 

bonkers325

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Maybe there's going to be an S6 active. I'd never bet against Samsung to release lots of versions of their flagship.



I'm not absolutely stuck on having a removable battery it's just that Samsung phones have fairly small batteries stock but you can replace those with good quality high capacity replacements. If they are going to remove that option then they should have increased the base capacity by a fair bit.

If the phone lasts a full day of moderate to heavy use, I don't see what the issue is. Typical life cycle of a phone is around 2 years anyway. After that, it's time for an upgrade!
 

tuan209

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I think its a great looking phone! First Samsung phone I like and I NEVER like Samsung phones. I still wont get it because of TW but other than that I think its great.
 

Commodus

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People are idiots. A cell phone is the ideal use for plastic. It's durable, looks reasonably good, and if you're a careless oaf that somehow manages to screw it up enough to look bad, it's easy and cheap to replace. I want a metal phone as much as I want glass bumpers on my car.

That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it. Remember, a smartphone is often the most important piece of tech you own these days -- some people want a device that feels good to hold (and, yes, show off), because they'll be holding it a lot. You can sometimes do that with plastic, but it's not as easy as with metal.

Part of the problem is that, until now, Samsung often did its utmost to show the bad aspects of plastic. The GS4 in particular had all the allure of a washing machine at the laundromat -- it looked cheap, it felt cheap, and there was zero sense of art to it. And to add insult to injury, it frequently used plastic to imitate nicer materials, like metal or leather. Microsoft/Nokia did well with plastic in part because it embraced the material's properties with wrap-around, colorful shells. Up until mid-to-late 2014, it was painfully obvious that Samsung was using plastic mostly because it reduced manufacturing costs.
 

WelshBloke

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That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it. Remember, a smartphone is often the most important piece of tech you own these days -- some people want a device that feels good to hold (and, yes, show off), because they'll be holding it a lot. You can sometimes do that with plastic, but it's not as easy as with metal.

The GS5 feels great in hand if you ignore the ridged plastic band. The back is grippy and doesn't feel cold or hot to the touch. Hold it with an open mind and it feels great.
All the solid metal phones I've held have been too slipery or too cold or too sharp around the edges.

Part of the problem is that, until now, Samsung often did its utmost to show the bad aspects of plastic. The GS4 in particular had all the allure of a washing machine at the laundromat -- it looked cheap, it felt cheap, and there was zero sense of art to it. And to add insult to injury, it frequently used plastic to imitate nicer materials, like metal or leather. Microsoft/Nokia did well with plastic in part because it embraced the material's properties with wrap-around, colorful shells. Up until mid-to-late 2014, it was painfully obvious that Samsung was using plastic mostly because it reduced manufacturing costs.

They use plastic on the back as its the only thing they could use to be thin and removable. The plastic silver band was horrible.
 

CakeMonster

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Any theories of why Samsung didn't go bigger on the screen? To avoid having to fit a bigger battery or making it thicker? With the increased resolution, one could argue that bumping it up even slightly, by 0.1", would have impressed people more. I can even notice the 0.1" difference between S4 and S5.

Another question, since the curved screen is the same resolution and bent at the edges, how does anyone expect that not to mess with full screen content? I wouldn't want one just because of that... If it had been 16:10 the curved would have been more appealing.
 

CakeMonster

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The GS4 in particular had all the allure of a washing machine at the laundromat -- it looked cheap, it felt cheap, and there was zero sense of art to it. And to add insult to injury, it frequently used plastic to imitate nicer materials, like metal or leather.

I love the S4. It has the biggest screen to bezel ratio of practically any phone out there. The S5 was a downgrade in that regard, while being significantly bigger and bulkier for that 0.1" bigger screen size. Also the S5 button configuration was worse IMO. If anything, maybe the "rough" back material of the S5 would have been preferable, but the S4 design was excellent in its simplicity.
 

lxskllr

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That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it. Remember, a smartphone is often the most important piece of tech you own these days -- some people want a device that feels good to hold (and, yes, show off), because they'll be holding it a lot. You can sometimes do that with plastic, but it's not as easy as with metal.

Part of the problem is that, until now, Samsung often did its utmost to show the bad aspects of plastic. The GS4 in particular had all the allure of a washing machine at the laundromat -- it looked cheap, it felt cheap, and there was zero sense of art to it. And to add insult to injury, it frequently used plastic to imitate nicer materials, like metal or leather. Microsoft/Nokia did well with plastic in part because it embraced the material's properties with wrap-around, colorful shells. Up until mid-to-late 2014, it was painfully obvious that Samsung was using plastic mostly because it reduced manufacturing costs.

I think my S5 looks great, or at least good enough for a tool I drag around with me every day. The plastic allows the back of my phone to easily peel open to access the battery and mSD card. Material to "last the ages" is patently absurd when most people get a new phone in two years. If anyone wants something to last, it would be me. I have full intentions of having my S5 last another four years, and barring failure, that's what I'll get, if not more.

I'm not familiar with the S4, and plastic can be done poorly; glossy smooth and painted is an excellent example, but the S5 is great example of plastic done right. Flat finish, with texture to aid grip, and hide scratches. Plastic's best use is for semi durable goods, not crappy disposable cups, and product wrapping. That's wasteful, and the petroleum would be better used in my gas tank.
 

WelshBloke

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If the phone lasts a full day of moderate to heavy use, I don't see what the issue is. Typical life cycle of a phone is around 2 years anyway. After that, it's time for an upgrade!
This won't last me a day or use, that's my problem with it.
 

GTaudiophile

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The only thing that positively separated Samsung from the rest was the removable battery. Now that the battery is gone, I see no reason to go for Samsung.
 

npaladin-2000

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Another question, since the curved screen is the same resolution and bent at the edges, how does anyone expect that not to mess with full screen content? I wouldn't want one just because of that... If it had been 16:10 the curved would have been more appealing.

Now that you mention it, that's a really good question. I wonder if the 5.1 inches is inclusive of the edge displays, or if the edge displays are in addition to the 5.1 inch regular display.

EDIT: Based on PhoneArena's photos of their benchmark tests, it looks like the regular display spills over onto the edge displays.
 
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dawheat

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If the battery life turns out okay, I'll buy this phone. Camera looks amazing.

Yeah I want to see real world pics. They were comparing it to the ip6 plus, not the ip6, and low light was surprisingly better.

Quick launch and constant focus are also nice pluses.
 
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lxskllr

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EDIT: Based on PhoneArena's photos of their benchmark tests, it looks like the regular display spills over onto the edge displays.

The curved version is the more eye-catching of the two devices, but it does distort things slightly. In particular, the curved screen distorts the sides of apps, bending parts of the interface that are supposed to be horizontally straight.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...-samsung-finally-builds-a-premium-smartphone/
 

deputc26

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The S6 trades a removable battery, usd card and water/dust resistance for a cool-looking aesthetic, and it does look pretty awesome. I love the side bezels and the bottom bezel, top bezel is too big. For me the big problem is the lack of a removable battery which means the phone's only good for a couple years at which point your battery life will suck. I still have an S3, will probably get an S5 over an S6 in a year despite the camera on the new phone (which looks awesome).

Totally agree with poster above, plastic is the perfect material for a phone.
 
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