Samsung Galaxy S6 hype thread

[dawheat]

I think each new Samsung and especially the praise the S6 is getting must drive Dari insane, not sure why he is so invested and puts so much energy in devices he doesnt like

Especially love the "doctored earnings" barb.

T-mobile shared that initial orders of the S6 have been double the S5 - which is still surprising to me since the US was one of the few markets the S5 actually sold alright.

However initial sales, while exciting and certainly a boon to Samsung's earnings, are only half the battle. The S3 was so great for Samsung b/c it sold so well for its full lifecycle - a total of 80 million sales. I think the guess by analysts is that Samsung will sell 50-55 million S6s in 2015 - a significant boost over the 35 million the S5 sold - and something Samsung I think will be more than happy with. However, it has the potential to outperform into 1H 2016 like the S3 as Android competitors seem to be floundering a bit.

It's hard right now to compete with Samsung's newest displays, they have a process advantage that might not be met until early 2016, their camera is the only real iPhone competitor in every dimension, they're the only Android Tier 1 OEM with touch biometrics, and even with a reduced marketing budget, it's still enormous.

 

[grkM3]

Tomorrow's the big day, Samsung fanatics. I wonder what Achtung! & S44 will be wearing. One of the guys on our helpdesk support team, a real D&D wizard, said he pre-ordered a 128GB S6 Edge. He said he wasn't happy about the price but wanted to get the best. I told him he was a fool. Seriously, this phone will help Samsung's margins, but at what cost. It'll be interesting to see their numbers in 3 months time (assuming it isn't doctored).

Picking up 3 galaxy s6s tom morning! 2 64gb and 1 32gb black sapphire!

Can't wait to get the best phone in the world tom!

 

[Achtung!]

I don't know why Dari is so anti-Samsung.

It's actually hilarious.

I support Samsung because, unlike most other smartphone companies like Apple and HTC, they actually make new technology. Apple and HTC don't do this. All they do is make new products using other companies' components. That's why I tend to support companies like Samsung, Sony and LG.

 

[RussianSensation]

I don't know why Dari is so anti-Samsung.

Maybe an ex-employee. His first post in this thread dated Jan 21, 2015 said it all before the phone even came out, the specs were known, etc.

Samsung can't seem to do anything right lately

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^ He must be using a smartphone from the future where LCDs have "whiter" whites than AMOLEDs because LG G3, Sony Z3, iPhone 6 and HTC M9 do no appear to be superior in this regard.

Samsung Galaxy S6 (Exynos 7420) vs HTC One M9 (Snapdragon 810) vs iPhone 6 (Apple A8) performance review

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-iPhone-6-Apple-A8-performance-review_id67964

 

[WelshBloke]

I don't know why Dari is so anti-Samsung.

His wife works for Sony IIRC.

 

[WelshBloke]

I tried that when I had my PPC 6700. The novelty of watching videos on such a small screen wore off real quick. It hurts the eyes.

Ah yes, that 2.8 inch 240x320 screen was certainly suited to video and comparable to the best screens of today.

 

[Achtung!]

Maybe an ex-employee. His first post in this thread dated Jan 21, 2015 said it all before the phone even came out, the specs were known, etc.



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^ He must be using a smartphone from the future where LCDs have "whiter" whites than AMOLEDs because LG G3, Sony Z3, iPhone 6 and HTC M9 do no appear to be superior in this regard.

Samsung Galaxy S6 (Exynos 7420) vs HTC One M9 (Snapdragon 810) vs iPhone 6 (Apple A8) performance review

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-iPhone-6-Apple-A8-performance-review_id67964

Thanks for that.

Highlights that the Samsung Galaxy S6 indeed has better whites compared to standard LED displays.

 

[zerogear]

Actually (somewhat surprisingly) it appears that the One M9, might actually be doing relatively ok (selling better than the M8):

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/htc-samsung-launch.htm

Although it remains to be seen if this is the case worldwide, and whether or not it can be sustained.

So at least sales wise, it is probably too early to call the One M9 a flop, and by extension the same arguably also goes for other 810 phones.

To be honest, M9 is a decently good phone for the most part, and it does what it does well, it's just not as good as S6 (or even the M8, comparatively). But for people who upgrade from M7 or earlier, it's still a good/great phone.

 

[Skurge]

To be honest, M9 is a decently good phone for the most part, and it does what it does well, it's just not as good as S6 (or even the M8, comparatively). But for people who upgrade from M7 or earlier, it's still a good/great phone.

Why would you upgrade from an M7 to an M9? If you want to stick withe HTC for whatever reason. Then get an M8. The M9 is a worse phone than the M8. How do you manage that?

 

[Achtung!]

The Galaxy S6 edge exists because it is a design choice, not a function choice:

Read this article by BGR:
Fine, I’ll explain why the Galaxy S6 edge exists

Since when does design have to be a function choice?

A design choice is a design choice.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Since when does design have to be a function choice?

I am kinda amazing that has to be explained after years of phones with glass backs (a completely less practical design choice).

 

[Annisman*]

I missed the FedEx guy by 10 minutes ! Gahhhhhhhhhh !

 

[darkswordsman17]

I don't know why people even bother responding to Dari other than to laugh at his nonsense. Check his posting history. He's a troll and might be an even worse human being (made a thread asking for help in poisoning a co-worker's mistress to force an abortion).

As for the M9 not being a flop, well we're basing it on the device not it's sales. It simply is a disappointment for an upgrade. There's almost no manner in which it's better than the M8 other than the instances where the M8's 4MP sensor was limited (I saw something that said it often actually worked out to about 2MP effective resolution). They even screwed up the design with that weird metal lip on the sides. There's tons of products that sell well despite not being good, let alone good improvements over the previous generation. I'm guessing a lot of the M9 sales are actually based on the M7. People upgrading, liked the M7 and assume the M9 will be a great upgrade over it.

I actually think the S5 sales were off because of the S3, which did not age well so people bought something else. The S6 will be interesting to see how it does as it's coming off the S4 which was a huge success and a good phone, but it also is a pretty drastic departure for Samsung (which seems to be positive so far, people are impressed by the design).

 

[darkswordsman17]

I don't know why Dari is so anti-Samsung.

It's actually hilarious.

I support Samsung because, unlike most other smartphone companies like Apple and HTC, they actually make new technology. Apple and HTC don't do this. All they do is make new products using other companies' components. That's why I tend to support companies like Samsung, Sony and LG.

You do know that Samsung mostly used other companies components before, right? (well in the good US versions generally) Same with LG, and Sony as well. Does Sony even make the displays in their stuff any more? It's also baffling that Sony's cameras were often fairly lackluster when Sony was making the sensors for these other companies a lot of the time. Likewise, Samsung's SoCs were actually often disappointing so who cares if they made it (which really they're still just making ARM designs). Not only that, but for some people part of the issue is that Samsung straight ripped off engineering work of other companies in order to make their own versions.

Plus, the main reason they were developing new stuff was to sell it to companies like Apple. And Apple dictates a lot of the design, they often even buy the manufacturing equipment needed and just basically use the labor force and factory space that the company owns.

I am kinda amazing that has to be explained after years of phones with glass backs (a completely less practical design choice).

Yeah I have no idea why anyone would want a glass back on a phone. I also do not understand the jutting cameras either. Or the need to keep pushing thinner and thinner. I think these are both poor design decisions (from aesthetics standpoint) and also functionally. The S6 seems to have mitigated the glass back a fair amount, but I'd still much rather have had something else. But then I'm personally not wowed at all with the S6 design.

 

[Anubis]

the thinness annoys me, same with the lightness, the phone needs a certain amount of mass no not fly out of your hand

the IP6 for example is too thin/light IMO

 

[swilli89]

Just want to chip in my $0.02

Got a 32gb black S6 today at an AT&T store. Overall I am very impressed so far!

My last three phones were an LG Optimus G, Nexus 5, and Sony Z3.

• The "black" color is a very, very beautiful dark blue when the light its hit
• The fingerprint scanner has blown me away. Much faster than my friend's Iphone 5s.
• The biometric scanner is actually quite acurate according to my cardiovascular nurse roommate
• Charging with the included fast charger is indeed much quicker than my old Z3
• Phone just feels amazing in hand. More comfortable than my Z3, just short of in hand feel of the King IMO, the Nexus 5.
• Compared camera with my friends Iphone 6 at work and we took pictures on each in HDR of a poster on the other side of the room. S6 resolved MUCH more detail hands down.

Very pleased aside from the fact that I wanted a 64 GB S6 but they were out of stock.

 

[dawheat]

I missed the FedEx guy by 10 minutes ! Gahhhhhhhhhh !

Hate this, especially when it's a new gadget you're waiting for. Sure you can get it tomorrow...but arggghhhh.

 

[npaladin-2000]

Why would you upgrade from an M7 to an M9? If you want to stick withe HTC for whatever reason. Then get an M8. The M9 is a worse phone than the M8. How do you manage that?

To be honest, M9 is a decently good phone for the most part, and it does what it does well, it's just not as good as S6 (or even the M8, comparatively). But for people who upgrade from M7 or earlier, it's still a good/great phone.

HTC is downgrading the M8 with a lower-level CPU (610 I think) for these exact reasons. Now the M9 will "clearly" be the flagship, and it reduces the reasons for people to buy an M8 instead.

Of course, it may not reduce them enough...

 

[RussianSensation]

the thinness annoys me, same with the lightness, the phone needs a certain amount of mass no not fly out of your hand

the IP6 for example is too thin/light IMO

That can be easily fixed with an after-market case of your choice. Now how do I take a 9.5-10mm phone and make it lighter and thinner if that's what I prefer? Making a phone thin and light to start off gives you the flexibility.

Here is another thought - you can take a 5.15mm smartphone like Blu Viva Air and bu a 5mm case with an expandable battery. All of a sudden you'll get better battery performance and the 10mm thickness/weight you like!

Despite 5.15mm thickness, it has a battery larger than in the iPhone 6 at 2100 mAh.
http://www.androidcentral.com/blu-vivo-air-review

Once next generation battery technology comes out and a similar sized battery can last 2-3x longer, many will appreciate 5-7mm thin smartphones even more.

HTC is downgrading the M8 with a lower-level CPU (610 I think) for these exact reasons. Now the M9 will "clearly" be the flagship, and it reduces the reasons for people to buy an M8 instead.

Of course, it may not reduce them enough...

The M8 model can still be ordered directly for $499 though.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/?intcid=subnav_us

BTW, all those people screaming at the loss of a microSD slot on the S6:

Sequential Read (MB/sec)
Samsung S6 = 317.95
HTC One M9 = 239.19
Note 4 microSD = 78.41
HTC One M9 microSD = 48.16

Sequestional Write (MB/sec)
Samsung S6 = 120.70
HTC One M9 = 123.97
Note 4 microSD = 10.73
HTC One M9 microSD = 8.47
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-review-1230p5.php

Must be a lot of fun writing data to a microSD card at those rates. A lot of people in this thread simply made a price comparison of adding a microSD vs. UFS 2.0 memory upgrade which costs more $ but ignored the 11-14X difference in write performance. Let's think about the implications of next generation phones in 2017-2020. As flash memory speeds increase, we will eventually see phones with 500MB/sec-1TB/sec sequential read/write speeds. Where does that leave microSD cards? Not to mention on phones such as the Sony Xperia Z3 you cannot store apps on the microSD card which means you only have 16GB of memory for apps! At least Samsung and Apple give you those 64-128GB options.

 

[Oyeve]

I missed the FedEx guy by 10 minutes ! Gahhhhhhhhhh !

Don't worry, I picked it up for ya!

 

[RussianSensation]

Quick Charging Round-up

After 30 min, S6 gets 54% of its battery charged, while S6 Edge 60%!

Everyone else.

iPhone 6 Plus - wow 3 hours to charge without the iPad charger!

 

[RussianSensation]

http://www.gsmarena.com/charge_test-review-1239.php

 

[mrochester]

It would be interesting to see how quickly the iPhone 6 charges with the iPad charger. By my calculation it should take 1hr 18mins.

 

[yh125d]

Just played around with my brothers S6. I like it, but there are a couple of things keeping me from going to drop $600 on one

First, it doesn't feel quite right in my hands. The glass back makes it feel weird to me. The glass is too grippy. I'm sure I would get used to it, and it certainly doesn't feel plasticky like old Samsungs, but its just not as natural feeling as the "kevlar" on the back of my last 2 moto phones. Also, the power button is too low for my liking.

But mostly, I hate hate hate the physical home button. Even more than on my brothers old S3. After having capacitive touch buttons only for the last 5 years nearly it just feels dirty to go back to a physical button. Any idea if it could be possible to repurpose the fingerprint scanner to make it function as a capacitive button?


I do have good things to say about it though. The camera is good and fast to open (despite having to double tap the home button - shudder). The speaker is damn good, loud and clear. It is fairly directional though, you'll want it pointed at you for best results. The earpiece is also loud and clear, a significant improvement over my Droid Maxx. We were able to easily switch to 2 way video call with his wifes S6 but the audio cut out after a couple of seconds, and switching back to just voice hung up.

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I'm torn. There's a lot of great stuff about this phone, but I really do hate physical buttons so much that it may be a dealbreaker alone for me. I'll probably still grab one to try it out and return it after a week if I just cannot get along with it.




Please Samsung, for the love of god get rid of the physical button. I know you want to copy the iphone as closely as you can and I'm OK with that, but this is one area where you need to deviate. Physical buttons suck and the people who like them are stupid. Dedicated capacitive buttons are best, but on screen are acceptable too. If you're worried about losing the fingerprint scanner, use capacitive buttons. I promise you it will work. If you want people to be able to feel the home button for the fingerprint scanner then you can have a slight indentation or dimple texture for that one. Reference Verizons myfi jetpack for a go-by

 

[Dari]

His wife works for Sony IIRC.

No she does not. Not sure wtf you got that from...