Samsung Galaxy S6 hype thread

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Dari

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Maybe an ex-employee. His first post in this thread dated Jan 21, 2015 said it all before the phone even came out, the specs were known, etc.



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^ He must be using a smartphone from the future where LCDs have "whiter" whites than AMOLEDs because LG G3, Sony Z3, iPhone 6 and HTC M9 do no appear to be superior in this regard.











Samsung Galaxy S6 (Exynos 7420) vs HTC One M9 (Snapdragon 810) vs iPhone 6 (Apple A8) performance review

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-iPhone-6-Apple-A8-performance-review_id67964

I've given this phone the props it deserves, wherever it's due. With that said, my primary interest is in the financials. That's the world I live in and Samsung has positioned this phone as a "do or die" for the firm so it'll be interesting how well it does. Also, I don't hate any firm nor am I against them. I have their tablet, which is subpar. What I do not like about them is their history of not paying their suppliers and screwing over their customers. I will not shed a tear when they falter but they are needed in this industry. I'm an engineer at heart and I love how they pack their phones with so much tech. The only thing stopping me from buying one is the sickly whites on their AMOLED screens. I've had OLED screens from other manufacturers and those were much better compared to Samsung's at the time. Whoever gets this phone I hope they enjoy it and get the most out of it but I will sit on the sidelines until >5.5" phones come out later this year...
 

RussianSensation

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I've given this phone the props it deserves, wherever it's due. With that said, my primary interest is in the financials.

OK, but this is not an investment or finance forum. Certainly, people in this thread had no idea we are comparing phones based on how financial successful the firms who manufacture them are. In that case, should I go and buy an iPhone 4S because Apple is a better firm financially than Samsung?

That's the world I live in and Samsung has positioned this phone as a "do or die" for the firm so it'll be interesting how well it does.

No, they did not. Samsung can survive without selling a single S6.

Also, I don't hate any firm nor am I against them. I have their tablet, which is subpar.

I think Nissan GTR/370Z or VW Golf R/GTI are cool cars but I wouldn't buy anything else those firms make. Samsung could make horrible or the world's best tablets, but what does that have to do with the S6?

What I do not like about them is their history of not paying their suppliers and screwing over their customers.

Sounds like every large firm on the planet. Ever heard of Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman? What you described is their specialty but about 10% of the entire US labour force it tied to the U.S. DoD.

Let's not buy any Apple product then because their suppliers hire children to assemble their products.

The only thing stopping me from buying one is the sickly whites on their AMOLED screens. I've had OLED screens from other manufacturers and those were much better compared to Samsung's at the time. Whoever gets this phone I hope they enjoy it and get the most out of it but I will sit on the sidelines until >5.5" phones come out later this year...

Sounds like even if S6 had the whites you prefer you would have skipped it anyway. Should have started off all your comments with "I personally prefer > 5.5" phones".
 

npaladin-2000

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The M8 model can still be ordered directly for $499 though.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/?intcid=subnav_us

BTW, all those people screaming at the loss of a microSD slot on the S6:

Sequential Read (MB/sec)
Samsung S6 = 317.95
HTC One M9 = 239.19
Note 4 microSD = 78.41
HTC One M9 microSD = 48.16

Sequestional Write (MB/sec)
Samsung S6 = 120.70
HTC One M9 = 123.97
Note 4 microSD = 10.73
HTC One M9 microSD = 8.47
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-review-1230p5.php

Must be a lot of fun writing data to a microSD card at those rates.

Try writing ENCRYPTED data at those rates, if you happen to have an Exchange server that enforces that policy, it's even more painful. Plus they're so useless for running apps from, no matter how desperately people wave around class 10 sequential write performance. By the way, the difference on random reads and writes is even more impressive.
 

LtMikePowelll

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I got the same time to full charge on my new S6, and TBH, I'm more impressed with how fluid the S6 is compare to my Note 4. And I feel that the Apple charger included with iPhone is just not enough to charge it fast, and I always tell my friends that use the iPad charger instead for their iPhone.
 

Achtung!

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I got the same time to full charge on my new S6, and TBH, I'm more impressed with how fluid the S6 is compare to my Note 4. And I feel that the Apple charger included with iPhone is just not enough to charge it fast, and I always tell my friends that use the iPad charger instead for their iPhone.

+1.

Although they're only 6 months apart, the Galaxy S6 is a huge technological upgrade from the Galaxy Note 4.

14nm CPU, DDR4 RAM, UFS flash memory, dual curved display technology and a much more optimized UI.
 

Skurge

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I got the same time to full charge on my new S6, and TBH, I'm more impressed with how fluid the S6 is compare to my Note 4. And I feel that the Apple charger included with iPhone is just not enough to charge it fast, and I always tell my friends that use the iPad charger instead for their iPhone.

The same UI is coming to the Note 4 with the android 5.1 update. It should be equally fast in most places when that happens.
 

WelshBloke

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Try writing ENCRYPTED data at those rates, if you happen to have an Exchange server that enforces that policy, it's even more painful. Plus they're so useless for running apps from, no matter how desperately people wave around class 10 sequential write performance. By the way, the difference on random reads and writes is even more impressive.
But they are absolutely perfect for storing photos, music, and videos on. Which is what takes up most storage space if you're the kind that uses a lot of local storage.
 

WelshBloke

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Quick Charging Round-up




After 30 min, S6 gets 54% of its battery charged, while S6 Edge 60%!

Everyone else.













iPhone 6 Plus - wow 3 hours to charge without the iPad charger!



Those need to be normalised for battery capacity to highlight any real differences.
 

foghorn67

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Got an S6 64GB in black...non-edge.
My work phone is an iPhone 6 black. I just traded my Sony Z3 for the S6. I still have my Moto X 2013 for my trusty backup.

First impressions.

-Arguably the best looking phone today. If someone makes an oleophobic or a glass protector for the back, I'll carry this phone around without a case. My runner ups currently offered today would be the 2014 Moto X with a leather or wood back. Those look sexy. The iPhone 6 sans case looks great too. Historically the iPhone 4 and HTC One M7 were groundbreaking.

-I know there are cheaper chargers. There was a reputable Qi charger on Amazon the other day that was on sale for 20 bucks. And a lot of you already have one from previous phones. I can admit the Samsung is pricey at 49 bucks retail.

-I got the Tech21 case. Ugh, it makes it look it has huge bezels. I'll probably get a diztronic case if replace it. I also got the Tech21 screen protector. I'll probably replace it with a glass protector. This one is too mushy. Reminds me of those 50 dollar screen protectors back in the day, minus the orange peel effect.

-Touch Wiz, hate to say it, isn't bad this time around. I want to see more pages out of the pure Android reference next time around. But it's really improved, even over the recent Note 4. I would rank this with HTC's skin as far as skins go. Both are minimal in appearance, but one being bright and one being dark. The Sony skin was minimal too, but what was there was ugly.

-The camera. No complaints. I'll say this. I have an iPhone 6 sitting in my other pocket...the S6 is a winner. The iPhone 6 can keep up with it most aspects. But the Samsung edges it in fine detail and closeups. Indoor shots pull more detail without smearing some details or flattening tonal contrasts like the iPhone can. Low light is neck and neck with a slight edge to the S6. It's all a game of NR vs. detail and sharpening.

-Camera functionality. It's fast, it focuses quickly and consistently. The UI in the camera app is great and simple to use.

-It's fast. No more "jank".

One note. I went to the Play Store to download my essential apps. I couldn't type anything in the search bar. A message flashed for a millisecond, but I couldn't catch it. Frustrating. I just opened up Chrome and started typing. That message popped up warning you about personalization and the stock keyboard. Accept and check the box telling it not to bug you. Then it should work without a glitch after that. There is already one Samsung bug to be squashed I guess.

I'll see what the Moto X/Note5 or Nexus? has to offer this year. But this might be good enough to keep for another year.

EDIT - REDACTED blurb about the Samsung branded charging pad coming with a quick charger for it's adapter. I thought iot was, it is 2A, but only at 5v. The quick charger does that plus 1.7A @ 9v.






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Achtung!

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Got an S6 64GB in black...non-edge.
My work phone is an iPhone 6 black. I just traded my Sony Z3 for the S6. I still have my Moto X 2013 for my trusty backup.

First impressions.

-Arguably the best looking phone today. If someone makes an oleophobic or a glass protector for the back, I'll carry this phone around without a case. My runner ups currently offered today would be the 2014 Moto X with a leather or wood back. Those look sexy. The iPhone 6 sans case looks great too. Historically the iPhone 4 and HTC One M7 were groundbreaking.

-If you get the Samsung branded wireless charger pad, it comes with a spare quick charger and not a regular charger. That's cool. If you want to quick charge, just yank the cord from the pad and plug into the phone. I can keep the charger that came with my phone in my laptop bag. I know there are cheaper chargers. There was a reputable Qi charger on Amazon the other day that was on sale for 20 bucks. And a lot of you already have one from previous phones. I can admit the Samsung is pricey at 49 bucks retail.

-I got the Tech21 case. Ugh, it makes it look it has huge bezels. I'll probably get a diztronic case if replace it. I also got the Tech21 screen protector. I'll probably replace it with a glass protector. This one is too mushy. Reminds me of those 50 dollar screen protectors back in the day, minus the orange peel effect.

-Touch Wiz, hate to say it, isn't bad this time around. I want to see more pages out of the pure Android reference next time around. But it's really improved, even over the recent Note 4. I would rank this with HTC's skin as far as skins go. Both are minimal in appearance, but one being bright and one being dark. The Sony skin was minimal too, but what was there was ugly.

-The camera. No complaints. I'll say this. I have an iPhone 6 sitting in my other pocket...the S6 is a winner. The iPhone 6 can keep up with it most aspects. But the Samsung edges it in fine detail and closeups. Indoor shots pull more detail without smearing some details or flattening tonal contrasts like the iPhone can. Low light is neck and neck with a slight edge to the S6. It's all a game of NR vs. detail and sharpening.

-Camera functionality. It's fast, it focuses quickly and consistently. The UI in the camera app is great and simple to use.

-It's fast. No more "jank".

One note. I went to the Play Store to download my essential apps. I couldn't type anything in the search bar. A message flashed for a millisecond, but I couldn't catch it. Frustrating. I just opened up Chrome and started typing. That message popped up warning you about personalization and the stock keyboard. Accept and check the box telling it not to bug you. Then it should work without a glitch after that. There is already one Samsung bug to be squashed I guess.

I'll see what the Moto X/Note5 or Nexus? has to offer this year. But this might be good enough to keep for another year.




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These are exactly my thoughts! I agree with you in pretty much all aspects here.

I went with the Galaxy S6 edge because it felt more comfortable in the hand.
 

yh125d

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Those need to be normalised for battery capacity to highlight any real differences.

If you are an electrical engineer doing an indepth study of different battery technologies sure, but it would mean nothing to a consumer. All a consumer would care about is the ratio of how long they can use their phone vs how long they have it charging. I find the 15-30 minute charge endurance test to be very valuable, as it can indicate how screwed you might or might not be if you are about to get on a plane and only have 10 minutes to charge your phone which is at 5%. Or if you're a super heavy power user, how much charging they can get done while eating lunch or something
 

WelshBloke

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If you are an electrical engineer doing an indepth study of different battery technologies sure, but it would mean nothing to a consumer. All a consumer would care about is the ratio of how long they can use their phone vs how long they have it charging. I find the 15-30 minute charge endurance test to be very valuable, as it can indicate how screwed you might or might not be if you are about to get on a plane and only have 10 minutes to charge your phone which is at 5%. Or if you're a super heavy power user, how much charging they can get done while eating lunch or something

OK normalise it for battery life then.

If you have a phone with a honking great battery that gives you 48 hours it's going to take longer than one that only holds 16 hours.
 

Skurge

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OK normalise it for battery life then.

If you have a phone with a honking great battery that gives you 48 hours it's going to take longer than one that only holds 16 hours.

Unless it's an iphone. In which case, it will take longer to charge and won't last as long.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Annoyances so far:

-When selecting which contact's number in the dialer you want to call it asks every time to make that the default or just once. How about just dial the number instead of prompting me?

-Lock screen notifications. I don't want it displaying my texts and emails on the lockscreen so I turned them off. However, it would be nice if it still displayed the gmail, text, FB, etc. icon in the upper left like it does when unlocked so i can glance and see what came in.
 

khha4113

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Annoyances so far:

-When selecting which contact's number in the dialer you want to call it asks every time to make that the default or just once. How about just dial the number instead of prompting me?

-Lock screen notifications. I don't want it displaying my texts and emails on the lockscreen so I turned them off. However, it would be nice if it still displayed the gmail, text, FB, etc. icon in the upper left like it does when unlocked so i can glance and see what came in.
It usually asks to choose default app when you have more than 1 app for the same task. My GS5 did that too at one time since I have Skype. I just set stock dialer as default so it wouldn't ask again.
In my GS5 with Lollipop 5.0, I have option to show notifications on lock screen but hide the content.
 

GoodRevrnd

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No it's not a default app issue. When a contact has multiple phone numbers, you click which one you want to call and it asks "make this number default or dial just once." I want it to always be just once and don't frickin prompt me about it.

Also, is there anyway to bind some action to open the app drawer? For example, instead of having an icon for the app drawer, if my phone was on the home screen and I pushed the home button once it would open the app drawer. This might not be practical with the double click to open camera feature, which I really like. Swipe from bottom would also be an acceptable alternative.


EDIT: I just realized there's no way to remove the app drawer icon so that last request is pointless anyway. =/
 
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tuan209

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Ill update with a mini my impression later but I am now on my 3rd Edge. 1st had bad scratches on the screen and the 2nd had a faulty power button. I inspected the 3rd one in store and it looks to be fine.

Those stories about scratched s6 are indeed true. My first was badly scratched and the 2nd one was moderately scratched.
 

Red Storm

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Also, is there anyway to bind some action to open the app drawer? For example, instead of having an icon for the app drawer, if my phone was on the home screen and I pushed the home button once it would open the app drawer. This might not be practical with the double click to open camera feature, which I really like. Swipe from bottom would also be an acceptable alternative.


EDIT: I just realized there's no way to remove the app drawer icon so that last request is pointless anyway. =/

Use Nova Launcher, it can do either of those.
 

RussianSensation

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OK normalise it for battery life then.

If you have a phone with a honking great battery that gives you 48 hours it's going to take longer than one that only holds 16 hours.

1. The graphs tell you how much endurance aka battery life you'll get out of XX minutes of charging.

2. You can pull up the maximum battery life of all these phones which confirms right away that outside of that Oppo phone, S6/S6 Edge/Note 4 beat everything in terms of balance of battery life vs. charging time.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-Review_id3965/page/4

So now, it's absolutely not necessary to normalize against battery's mAH capacity when there is enough data from looking at maximum charge time and using the charging % vs. endurance linked earlier.

For example, after 30 min of charging, you'll get 39hr out of S6, 43hr out of S6 Edge, 40hr out of Note 4 but only 22hr out of M9 quick charge and 28hr out of iPhone 6 plus (ipad charger).

Alternatively, we can use percentages. In 30 min iPhone 6 Plus charges to only 35% but S6 to 54%. The maximum battery life of the iPhone 6+ is 6hr+32min vs. 7h+14min on the S6 per the link above. So clearly the S6 charges way faster and has longer on-screen battery life to boot. GSM arena actually confirms where the S6 outperforms the iPhone 6 Plus in both Wi-Fi and Video viewing!

With % charging times, endurance, and total battery life, we can quickly and easily see which phones are most efficient/convenient for charging during the day (obviously if you mostly charge your phone overnight, then whether it charges in 3 hours or 1 hour is irrelevant).

S5 manages to beat the S6 in calling only.









Now look at the total charging time for the S5/iPhone 6/6+ - the S6 beats them easily. The iPhone 6 performs particularly poorly because it takes longer to charge when looking at 15 min, 30 min or up to 100%, but loses in battery life in all 3 categories to the S6/S6 Edge. Given that it's the primary competitor, I would say the S6 wins this battle by a mile. The S6 isn't even thicker than the iPhone 6 but has 4X as many pixels, a way faster SoC and a larger 5.1" screen, but still blows the S6 in efficiency. That's why it's hilarious how some people in this thread tried to downplay 14nm node as nothing but a marketing gimmick. Good thing A9 will be made on 14nm because right now the iPhone 6 fares poorly in 3G talk time and video viewing.

If you are an electrical engineer doing an indepth study of different battery technologies sure, but it would mean nothing to a consumer. All a consumer would care about is the ratio of how long they can use their phone vs how long they have it charging. I find the 15-30 minute charge endurance test to be very valuable, as it can indicate how screwed you might or might not be if you are about to get on a plane and only have 10 minutes to charge your phone which is at 5%. Or if you're a super heavy power user, how much charging they can get done while eating lunch or something

That's exactly it! Since some phones don't have swappable batteries, for those of us who often run into situations where we need to charge a phone in 5-15 min, it matters a great deal if we can get more battery life in this short time span. Those graphs indicate exactly that measurement. Of course for someone with a more stable charging schedule (i.e, charging at night every day or every 2 days) this is less relevant. However, it's cool to know that Quick Charging 2.0 is not just a marketing gimmick.
 
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JeffMD

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Anyone know of a a battery pack charger that is small enough to fit with the phone in the pocket and not do it harm? Don't need anything big but just enough to double its life.
 

Artdeco

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Not sure what the drama is over charge times, most people just put the phone on a charger overnight, also, the iP6 and 6+ will charge much faster using a 2.1ma charger if fast charging is your thing.

Fast charging is not great for battery life.
 

Achtung!

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If you are an electrical engineer doing an indepth study of different battery technologies sure, but it would mean nothing to a consumer. All a consumer would care about is the ratio of how long they can use their phone vs how long they have it charging. I find the 15-30 minute charge endurance test to be very valuable, as it can indicate how screwed you might or might not be if you are about to get on a plane and only have 10 minutes to charge your phone which is at 5%. Or if you're a super heavy power user, how much charging they can get done while eating lunch or something

Yeah the ultra-fast Galaxy S6 charging technology for 10 minute charge to charge from 0~40% is really great.

When I'm desperate for some more battery life, all I care about is getting the first 20%.
 
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