Samsung Galaxy S6 hype thread

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WelshBloke

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The S6 Active most likely wont be made out of glass. Thus, getting the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge is the best choice if you want a high quality and premium phone.
TBH having a glass back is a slight negative to the S6 IMHO...
 

Achtung!

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WelshBloke

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I disagree.

That's your prerogative.

The glass design feels more premium compared to my iPhone 5S which had a mixed aluminum/glass design.

I didn't like it when the iPhone had a glass back, or the Nexus.

Glass looks and feels a lot more premium than aluminum or plastic.

Does it? Personally soft touch stuff feels a lot nicer to me. Its warmer and less slippery.

Also the glass used in the Galaxy S6 Edge is extremely resilient to scratches and shattering:

That's good as by all accounts it's going to be slipping from your hand a lot.

Also it may be resilient but it still looks like shit at the end of those videos.


Really I don't particularly care what they make the back out of. Glass is a slight negative to me but if it met my other needs I'd find a way to make it work but I'm not downgrading on battery life or waterproofing.

I get that you really, REALLY, like the S6 and that's great but it isn't 'the Jesus phone', it's not going to suit everyone and other phones do some things better.
 

Commodus

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Uhh that's at 200nits.

Also, it only shows web browsing battery life.

The Galaxy S6 has fast charging capabilities, something that other phones don't have.

Again, the technology on the Galaxy S6 is superior to anything else out there.

I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 6S doesn't have fast charging mode.

You're right it's unfair to attack 20nm as it was the only available tech 8 months ago. I'm just too fascinated by 14nm.

Again 200nits is not a reliable way to assess battery life. The Galaxy S6 is also pushing 4X the number of pixels as the iPhone 6. Therefore, the Galaxy S6 is has superior power efficiency and faster charging times over the iPhone 6.


The 200 nits is an equalizer -- all other things being equal, here's how it fares. And being more efficient per pixel isn't going to matter if your phone still dies earlier.

Also, you might not want to embrace revisionist history quite so quickly. The Droid Turbo, Nexus 6, One M9 and numerous other phones have some form of fast charging. It's part of Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 spec, in fact. Samsung has a good implementation, but it's far from the first.

Look, I know you want to defend your preferred phone, but it's best to do that while staying grounded in reality, so people like me can't undermine your argument by calling you out on mistakes. The Galaxy S6 doesn't have to be better than everyone at everything for it to be a great device for you.
 

Adrenaline

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Unremovable battery and no microSD = people has less reason to stick with Samsung and more more reason to jump ship to Apple.

I don't think Samsung themselves know how deep their dug their own hole this time. This thing is gonna flop hard.

I am up for a phone upgrade and looked up the S6 out of curiosity. The changing of the expandable memory to built in memory gives me the only reason I need to go back to Apple for my next phone. I can pay Apple's overinflated prices for memory. Also, the annoying pop up that comes up every time I pick something that can be used by different apps. It never remembers the default I pick.

Although, the last upgrade on the OS messed up my phone enough that I had to go to the Samsung rep at Best Buy to get my phone working again. That required a reinstall of the OS. The upgrade was originally done over WiFi.

Thanks for all the information in this thread. I will look a little more but Samsung appears to be going in the wrong direction with some choices to me.
 

yh125d

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Well not really apples to apples if you have to use a charger that doesn't come with the phone.

Regardless, while it does charge faster with a higher output charger, I'd hesitate to bundle it as "fast charge" capable. The phones under that umbrella have a much higher mAh/minute charge rate than the iPhone 6 Plus even with the iPad charger. It's probably most accurate to just leave it as it charges "faster" with an iPad charger.

Well to be fair some of the phones that have a quick charge technology didn't actually ship with a compatible charger, ala Droid Turbo I think. Point taken though. Does Apple state that the ipad charger is compatible with iPhone? I mean I know it works, but if they don't say you can use it with iPhone I can understand them not shipping with it, if they're concerned about longevity or something. But if they state they're compatible then it should ship with the better charger. They are premium flagship devices after all.

But again I would say comparing mAh/minute isn't that useful to a consumer. I don't care if my phone can charge at a higher rate electrically speaking, I care if it gains usable time faster.


Has anyone seen a review talking about wireless charging speeds? If I got one it would probably be charged wirelessly most of the time
 

lxskllr

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Really I don't particularly care what they make the back out of. Glass is a slight negative to me but if it met my other needs I'd find a way to make it work but I'm not downgrading on battery life or waterproofing.

I get that you really, REALLY, like the S6 and that's great but it isn't 'the Jesus phone', it's not going to suit everyone and other phones do some things better.
Glass is a huge negative on a portable machine. I'm having trouble thinking of a less suitable material without being ridiculous; cardboard? :^D

A glass phone is just about a deal breaker for me. It would have to to have all the features of the S5 to even get me to glance at it, and I would be looking for something else altogether.
 

npaladin-2000

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The S6 Active most likely wont be made out of glass. Thus, getting the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge is the best choice if you want a fragile and breakable phone.

There, fixed that for you. You see, in your quest to evangelize the S6 you forget that those shopping for an Active version care more about durability than premium materials.

I really wish there were more Kevlar phones out there. It's premium feeling and all kinds of durable, not to mention transparent to radio waves. It's the ideal material and only Verizon gets phones made out of it.
 

Achtung!

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http://www.gsmarena.com/yonhap_korean_galaxy_s6_sales_reach_record_numbers-news-11892.php
Yonhap: Korean Galaxy S6 sales reach record numbers

10 million + 20 million = 30 million sales in the first 26 days since launch. That's more than the iPhone 6!
Samsung and Apple tend to view sales and shipments as the same thing. So we are assuming that shipments = sales, especially in this case where demand for the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge has so far exceeded supply.
It's likely that only 50% out of the 74 million iPhones that Apple sold/shipped in Q4 2014 were the iPhone 6. That means approximately 37 million iPhone 6's were sold in the first 3 months of its release.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/04/133_177003.html
Galaxy S6, Edge sales gaining momentum

Samsung Electronics said Monday it Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge are hot-sellers at home and abroad.

Sales of the new smartphones are expected to gain additional momentum given strong global demand.

Samsung is expected to breach the 10 million sales mark just 26 days after their global launch on April 10, faster than previous models, sources said.

"The two new phones are drawing impressive responses. Samsung aims to ship 10 million S6s and S6 Edges in 26 days after the devices' global launch. That target is achievable," said a source.

The target is on top of 20 million pre-orders it has received globally for the two phones.


A Samsung Electronics spokesman declined to comment on specific sales figures. However, he said the sales of the new Galaxy series are gaining momentum.

Samsung has had a hard time with handsets in recent years due to the rise of cheap Chinese smartphone makers. However, Samsung appears to be back in the game with the S6 and curvy Edge models.

"The S6 series especially, with a curved screen, are selling like hot cakes and we have no question that they will play a critical role in helping Samsung regain its market share," said another source.

Each Galaxy device has been sold better than its predecessors.

In Korea, the country's three carriers are ready to launch heavy promotional campaigns in connection with the Samsung phones.

"The supply for the Edge is very tight due to its popularity. If you want to buy the Edge, then please visit us after April 15," said an official at a Samsung Mobile Store in Bundang, on the outskirts of Seoul.

He said competition to secure more Edges is getting fiercer between handset sellers.

KT is the biggest supporter of the products because the nation's No. 2 mobile carrier set 211,000 won as its subsidy for S6 buyers.

"Under the two-year contract, with a customer paying 99,000 won a month, then the S6 with 32GB storage will be offered with a discount of 211,000 won. Also, you can get an additional 15 percent discount from a KT authorized local outlet," said an official at KT.

Its chief rival, SK Telecom, and the nation's No. 3 mobile carrier LG Uplus set 130,000 and 140,000 won as their subsidy ceilings on the Samsung phones as of the second week of this month, officials said.

"It's highly unlikely that SK Telecom, KT and LG Uplus will offer more beyond the subsidy cap, which was recently revised up to 330,000 won, as the S6 has been doing well," said an official at the Korea Communications Commission (KCC), the country' top telecom regulator.

In the United States, T-Mobile made what officials say is rare move to praise the Samsung phones in a press release that said, "The response to the S6 and S6 Edge from customers has been very good."

In the first 10 days of the pre-order period for the Samsung smartphones, sales of the S6 through T-Mobile have already almost doubled those of its predecessor, which was previously Samsung's most popular smartphone in the Galaxy line at T-Mobile.

"The underwhelming previous flagship smartphone of Samsung is the reason why the company decided to do a major overhaul for the S6, resulting in the massive hype and demand surrounding the device," T-Mobile said.
 
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yh125d

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I disagree.

The glass design feels more premium compared to my iPhone 5S which had a mixed aluminum/glass design.

Glass looks and feels a lot more premium than aluminum or plastic.

Also the glass used in the Galaxy S6 Edge is extremely resilient to scratches and shattering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpsyGweP5so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdkPKeOVOrk

I'm not a big fan of the glass back. You're right, it does feel more solid and premium, certainly than past samsung phones so I must congratulate them on that, and I am sure most people will love it. It just feels slightly too grippy to me. I prefer the aluminum on the One or iPhone to it. I would also prefer the kevlar from my last couple of moto droids to it, which both had a premium in hand feel while being neither glass nor aluminum.

Good thing is the S6 will probably never slide out of your hand, I could hold it probably less than 5 degrees off of vertical before it started to slide out
 

Achtung!

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I'm not a big fan of the glass back. You're right, it does feel more solid and premium, certainly than past samsung phones so I must congratulate them on that, and I am sure most people will love it. It just feels slightly too grippy to me. I prefer the aluminum on the One or iPhone to it. I would also prefer the kevlar from my last couple of moto droids to it, which both had a premium in hand feel while being neither glass nor aluminum.

Good thing is the S6 will probably never slide out of your hand, I could hold it probably less than 5 degrees off of vertical before it started to slide out

I guess we have different opinions.

Many Sony Xperia users love the glass back saying that it's one of the main selling points. I expect many Sony Xperia users to upgrade to the Galaxy S6 seeing how Sony will most likely discontinue their Xperia lineup and the Z4 is mostly likely to be a disappointment.

So far, 2 of my friends who are Sony Xperia Z2 users have upgraded to the Galaxy S6 and they love the design.
 
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CLARiiON

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My 1st post here, have been following the thread(s) for sometime now.

In Arstechnica review, most people seemed to have missed the 2nd battery test.

 

dawheat

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I think I've been pretty bullish on the Edge in this thread, not for functional gains, but b/c it looks cool and is a genuinely desirable device to stand out from every other rectangular slab.

Even so, my expectations were that 20% of S6 sales would be the Edge variant - a minority but much higher than Note 4 Edge sales. However, early reports from some markets (Korea) are saying initial sales are closer to 50%.

Now obviously it's early and it could be that early adopters who are willing to pay the premium will die down as time goes by. Even so, I think Samsung will have no issues keeping Edge sales at least at 25% for the year and shows there is appetite for a new design, even at a cost premium.
 

kpkp

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My 1st post here, have been following the thread(s) for sometime now.

In Arstechnica review, most people seemed to have missed the 2nd battery test.

They would need to provide the average APL for the 2 tests or it's almost impossible to extrapolate much useful data from the substantial difference in autonomy.
 

gorcorps

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My 1st post here, have been following the thread(s) for sometime now.

In Arstechnica review, most people seemed to have missed the 2nd battery test.


S5 battery life beating Note 4? That doesn't seem right to me
 

Commodus

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The reason people "missed" that WebGL test is because it's not as vital. Unless you deal with a lot of 3D objects in your web browser, you probably won't notice! Also, it's clearly a weird result when the GS6, GS5 and Note 4 all score roughly the same result despite wildly diverging specs.
 
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I think I've been pretty bullish on the Edge in this thread, not for functional gains, but b/c it looks cool and is a genuinely desirable device to stand out from every other rectangular slab.

Even so, my expectations were that 20% of S6 sales would be the Edge variant - a minority but much higher than Note 4 Edge sales. However, early reports from some markets (Korea) are saying initial sales are closer to 50%.

Now obviously it's early and it could be that early adopters who are willing to pay the premium will die down as time goes by. Even so, I think Samsung will have no issues keeping Edge sales at least at 25% for the year and shows there is appetite for a new design, even at a cost premium.

I'm not too shocked about that as it seems like the people that are wowed by the S6 design are all about the Edge version. I still don't get it, and doubly so for the extra $100 cost. But I think that's huge news for Samsung who is seeing they can in fact design a device that wows people, and I think those people are the ones that flocked to Apple products. That so many people are going "I don't care about the extra $100 I want that" is big.

Any more rumours about the S6 active? I've kinda lost interest in the S6 now that it is lacking in the two things that I really wanted out of it.

Yeah, the S6 is good but not what I can wait as it's not a device that really wows me. I'm crossing my fingers that maybe the S6 Active will be the appeasment for the power users. Give it a sturdy case that can be taken apart to reveal a bigger battery and an microSD slot.
 

Imported

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Just got back from the Verizon store during lunch to see which model I wanted (I'm on AT&T and the closest corporate store I have to drive to).. I think the S6 Edge looks cheap compared to the regular S6. Can't determine if it was cause the S6 was white and the Edge was black/blue.. but the curved screen screamed cheap to me.
 

Radeon962

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S5 battery life beating Note 4? That doesn't seem right to me

Take battery tests with a grain of salt. My iPhone 6 Plus and OnePlus One have been by far the two phones with the best battery life.

There is no way the regular iPhone 6 beats the 6 Plus in a battery test so I am suspect of their claims right off the bat.

The only way to really judge a phone is to get it and use it as your daily driver for at least a week loaded with your normal apps, sync settings, and normal use.
 

Achtung!

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I think I've been pretty bullish on the Edge in this thread, not for functional gains, but b/c it looks cool and is a genuinely desirable device to stand out from every other rectangular slab.

Even so, my expectations were that 20% of S6 sales would be the Edge variant - a minority but much higher than Note 4 Edge sales. However, early reports from some markets (Korea) are saying initial sales are closer to 50%.

Now obviously it's early and it could be that early adopters who are willing to pay the premium will die down as time goes by. Even so, I think Samsung will have no issues keeping Edge sales at least at 25% for the year and shows there is appetite for a new design, even at a cost premium.

I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 7 will have a dual curved display manufactured by Samsung Display/LG Display.

All the people who bought the Galaxy S6 edge did so because of the design. And they even paid $100~$200 extra for it.

This means that the dual curved display is something that most people want. The fact that it's $100 more expensive and 50% of people who got the Galaxy S6 still got the Galaxy S6 edge version means that more than 50% of people prefer the Galaxy S6 edge over the standard Galaxy S6.
 

lopri

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Ars Technica's more rigorous testing begs to differ:

The reason people "missed" that WebGL test is because it's not as vital. Unless you deal with a lot of 3D objects in your web browser, you probably won't notice! Also, it's clearly a weird result when the GS6, GS5 and Note 4 all score roughly the same result despite wildly diverging specs.

Don't you think it is somewhat hypocrite to dismiss one result but prop the other ("Ars Technica's more rigorous testing") at the same time? It's not like you know what exactly Ars tests in its web browsing test. You are simply cherry-picking data that suits your agenda. If the test results look weird in the 2nd, what guarantees the 1st one is correct? (or "more rigorous")
 

WelshBloke

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Don't you think it is somewhat hypocrite to dismiss one result but prop the other ("Ars Technica's more rigorous testing") at the same time? It's not like you know what exactly Ars tests in its web browsing test. You are simply cherry-picking data that suits your agenda. If the test results look weird in the 2nd, what guarantees the 1st one is correct? (or "more rigorous")
Web browsing tests are completely useless across different platforms anyway.
 

lopri

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Smartphone battery testing has to be the most frustrating thing a reviewer has to deal with.
 
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