Samsung Galaxy S6 hype thread

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mrochester

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The Galaxy S6's battery life is superior to the iPhone 6's battery life.
That's good enough for me...
And for me and most other people, the most important aspect of battery life is in talking time.
The Galaxy S6 has a whopping 5 hour advantage over the iPhone 6.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-review-1227p3.php


http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_6-review-1141p3.php

What a shame the battery life for web browsing on the S6 is so low. That's the most important battery life metric for me. I last made or received a phone call on the 8th March so talk time isn't important to me. I also don't watch videos so that metric is also not important to me.
 
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Achtung!

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What a shame the battery life for web browsing on the S6 is so low. That's the most important battery life metric for me. I last made or received a phone call on the 8th March so talk time isn't important to me. I also don't watch videos so that metric is also not important to me.

So it's been 6 days since you last talked to someone on the phone?

I don't know about you but I use my phone to call people or receive phone calls. I probably use my phone to browse on the Internet maybe 30 minutes to an hour maximum per day.

I just don't have the time to browse the web on my phone. I drive a car, so I don't even browse the Internet while travelling.
There are times when I browse the Internet on my phone, such as waiting in a queue or during lunch breaks. But yeah, probably no more than 30 minutes to an hour per day.
 

dawheat

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So it's been 6 days since you last talked to someone on the phone?

I don't know about you but I use my phone to call people or receive phone calls. I probably use my phone to browse on the Internet maybe 30 minutes to an hour maximum per day.

I just don't have the time to browse the web on my phone. I drive a car, so I don't even browse the Internet while travelling.
There are times when I browse the Internet on my phone, such as waiting in a queue or during lunch breaks. But yeah, probably no more than 30 minutes to an hour per day.

Your usage aside, I do think most buyers are going to be concerned with SOT activities. Especially in the US, phone usage is one of the least important items.

Personally I browse maybe 3-4 hours a day on my phone aside from texts, calls, etc.

Again I think the S6 has OK numbers and likely still the best phone until the 6S comes out in September. However, I was hoping for web/video times a touch higher than the S5 to clearly make it the best phone until the Note 5 comes out.
 

lxskllr

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So it's been 6 days since you last talked to someone on the phone?

My weekly phone use can usually be measured in single digit minutes. I use a phone as a portable computer that sometimes irritates me with phone calls. Talk time sits only above appearance in importance to me.
 

Dari

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So it's been 6 days since you last talked to someone on the phone?

I don't know about you but I use my phone to call people or receive phone calls. I probably use my phone to browse on the Internet maybe 30 minutes to an hour maximum per day.

I just don't have the time to browse the web on my phone. I drive a car, so I don't even browse the Internet while travelling.
There are times when I browse the Internet on my phone, such as waiting in a queue or during lunch breaks. But yeah, probably no more than 30 minutes to an hour per day.

You play up talk time here and play down web browsing here.

Uhh... that is a huge misinterpretation.

The S5 has a longer stand by time than the S6. Have you ever thought about that?

The reason for this is the quad HD display, more powerful processor and slightly smaller battery.

All this was compromised for the attractive design.

It still lasts 2.5 days in stand by time though. Good enough.

Here, you play down talk time, saying it's "good enough". You're also as super excited about the Samsung Galaxy S6 as I am about making bread and will get the useless Edge version. 17 posts since March 10th, all about this phone. Zero critiism. WTF are you?
 

lopri

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That review looks a bit rushed and has a few unexpected measurements like screen brightness. (e.g. S5 = 529 nits, S6 = 473 nits) Either they have changed the way measure stuff or there are errors.

Nonetheless, there is no miracle and the battery life looks like what I expected. Samsung may have aimed at S800 level for the battery and spent the rest of power budget on performance and aesthetics. It will probably get through a day for majority of users but it is not going to be a tank like the iPhone 6+, the Note 4, or the Xperia Z3. No free lunch on power consumption, apprently.

P.S. Does anyone know what modem the S6/Edge is running on? I've assumed it's Qualcomm until now, but the disparity of talk time hours between the S5 and the S6 does make me wonder. If the modem is the culprit of talk time decrease, then there can be a worse news on stand-by time. (wake locks -> modem activities -> battery drainage in idle)
 

lopri

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Or maybe the S800/S801 has inherent advantage in talk time hours due to integrated modem. Either way I would like to know what kind of modem is in the S6/Edge.
 

gorcorps

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That review looks a bit rushed and has a few unexpected measurements like screen brightness. (e.g. S5 = 529 nits, S6 = 473 nits) Either they have changed the way measure stuff or there are errors.

Nonetheless, there is no miracle and the battery life looks like what I expected. Samsung may have aimed at S800 level for the battery and spent the rest of power budget on performance and aesthetics. It will probably get through a day for majority of users but it is not going to be a tank like the iPhone 6+, the Note 4, or the Xperia Z3. No free lunch on power consumption, apprently.

P.S. Does anyone know what modem the S6/Edge is running on? I've assumed it's Qualcomm until now, but the disparity of talk time hours between the S5 and the S6 does make me wonder. If the modem is the culprit of talk time decrease, then there can be a worse news on stand-by time. (wake locks -> modem activities -> battery drainage in idle)
All GSM arena reviews seem to be rushed, or just written poorly. I don't rely on them for much other than a few stats for comparison. The full reviews I've read come off as kind of sloppy, or just not well edited.
 

Achtung!

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You play up talk time here and play down web browsing here.



Here, you play down talk time, saying it's "good enough". You're also as super excited about the Samsung Galaxy S6 as I am about making bread and will get the useless Edge version. 17 posts since March 10th, all about this phone. Zero critiism. WTF are you?

The Galaxy S6 Edge is aesthetically attractive, that's why I'm getting it. Just like how someone would get a Ferrari instead of a Corolla if they had enough money. It's not just utility, but also aesthetics.

It's attractive, that's why pre-orders for the S6 Edge are so high.

Don't deny the fact that the iPhone 7 will probably have a curved display made by Samsung.

Curved screens are wanted because they look aesthetically attractive, not because they have profound utility.

And I made an account to discuss the Galaxy S6 because I'm so excited for it. I have an iPhone 5 and the last few phones I've owned were non-Samsung. In fact the only Samsung phone I used was a flip phone back in the mid-2000s. Is there anything wrong with that?

I'm not really a Samsung fanboy, but maybe I have become one with the Galaxy S6 Edge being announced. I own a Macbook Pro, iPad 4, Samsung TV, Samsung monitor, Samsung refrigerator, owned several iPods previously... I'm neither an Apple or a Samsung fanboy.

I buy what I want to buy and I talk up anything that I'm hyped about.
 
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zerogear

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LOL @ Analogy between Edge to Non-Edge and Ferrari and Corolla. I think you're way overestimating the "fluff" price of the edge. The Ferrari is expensive not just because of aesthetics, but actual performance.The fact of the matter is, Edge has nothing over the S6 version, aside from fluff.
 

lopri

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There is a catch with GSMArena's power measurement. According to this page;

The first test is the talk time test, which measures how long it takes to deplete the battery by making voice calls. Bearing in mind that most screens automatically turn off during a call, we've made sure our set up accounts for this. We close all applications which may further strain the battery, too.

The web browsing test is performed using an automated script which reloads a webpage every ten seconds. There are no flash elements on the web pages, so the playing field is even. The brightness of the phones' displays is set to 50% and we use a Wireless N router placed a few meters away to get full connectivity bars.

In our video playback test we measure how long it takes for a device to run its fully charged battery down to 10%, while looping a standard-definition video. We stop at 10% since most devices shut their video players at this point. The display is again set to 50%, and all radios on the device are switched off (Airplane mode). (emphasis mine)

The impression I've got from recent Displaymate's analysis is that Samsung uses the same AMOLED tech used on the Note 4 for the S6/Edge (higher density notwithstanding). Another impression I've got is the yield of that tech has improved, and that shows in panel consistency and higher average/auto-brightness Samsung adopted for the S6/Edge.

If that is correct, then 50% brightness selected by GSMArena for the comparison may not be the same for the S5 and the S6, and the S6's screen should be naturally brighter than the S5's. I do not know whether the 50% brightness means half the brightness of the max brightness or simply halfway point on the brightness slider, but either way they may vary phone by phone.

This should not affect the talk time test, however.
 

lopri

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If they do want to upgrade then they'll have no problem selling their S4s for a decent price (locally like on Facebook/Craigslist), as there's a lot of people that that would be a great upgrade for (and then they could use them on MVNOs) since they're still trying to sell stuff like S3s for $100-250.
That is the most likely scenario, I think.
 

Achtung!

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LOL @ Analogy between Edge to Non-Edge and Ferrari and Corolla. I think you're way overestimating the "fluff" price of the edge. The Ferrari is expensive not just because of aesthetics, but actual performance.The fact of the matter is, Edge has nothing over the S6 version, aside from fluff.

The Ferrari has more fluff and more performance than the Corolla.

The Galaxy S6 Edge has more fluff and more performance than the iPhone 6.

I wasn't comparing the Galaxy S6 Edge with the Galaxy S6.
 

dawheat

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The Ferrari has more fluff and more performance than the Corolla.

The Galaxy S6 Edge has more fluff and more performance than the iPhone 6.

I wasn't comparing the Galaxy S6 Edge with the Galaxy S6.

Stupid analogy either way. It's one thing to be a fan of a phone/company, but you lose credibility with comments like that. It's better to be respectful of competitors as it's that kind of hubris that got Samsung into their current situation.
 

Achtung!

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It seems like some people think a Ferrari can't be compared to smartphones.

Well, they're both technological products so yes they can be compared.

Ferraris are cars which are complex to build but don't underestimate the complexity of manufacturing smartphones. The technology required to manufacture cars and smartphones are vastly different.

Ironically, making Ferraris isn't so technologically advanced... most of them are hand made.
 

touchstone

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the battery life test is disappointing for me because of that wifi performance. they arent even comparing it the the 6 plus, just the regular 6 and it can't beat wifi browsing at all?


talk time has more to do with modem efficiency than SoC efficiency so thats pretty much a useless metric and video playback is better than the 6 but worse than the 6 plus. sucks but i guess that is the price you pay for 14nm class-leading performance. i guess the battery life is adequate.
 

Achtung!

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the battery life test is disappointing for me because of that wifi performance. they arent even comparing it the the 6 plus, just the regular 6 and it can't beat wifi browsing at all?


talk time has more to do with modem efficiency than SoC efficiency so thats pretty much a useless metric and video playback is better than the 6 but worse than the 6 plus. sucks but i guess that is the price you pay for 14nm class-leading performance. i guess the battery life is adequate.

Umm... where does it say "Wifi performance"?
 

grkM3

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I don't know the full details of this test but found this pic on another forum.

According to this the gs6 gets 3.5 more hours in geek bench battery test vs the s5.

 

npaladin-2000

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I don't know the full details of this test but found this pic on another forum.

According to this the gs6 gets 3.5 more hours in geek bench battery test vs the s5.


Have to know the methodology...that's from some French website's test of the GS6 I saw it in the other forum also.

I don't dare hope for 8.5 hours of screen-on-time....
 

touchstone

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Umm... where does it say "Wifi performance"?

sorry, i mean 'web browsing' battery life. not sure why i said wifi



it is great battery life if you take into account how tiny the battery is. but now we are in iphone territory where we are saying 'it is thin and sleek and that makes mediocre battery life ok'. i don't know how i feel about that
 

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What do they call paid shills nowdays? Ahhh, "Reputation Managers"

I'm done with Samsung, copying the sealed iPhone and the tiered pricing of memory just did me in.

Note 4 will likely be the last SS device I own, hoping LG keeps on making stuff I'll buy.

Swapped out SSGN4's batteries 2X this weekend, once for me and once for GF, we were on a trip, no time to recharge.
 

gorcorps

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I could deal with the non-removeable battery, but no mSD is a killer. I really hope this doesn't mark the end of mSD cards industry wide. If HTC is smart they'll continue supporting them to take that market from Samsung.
 

Snappysneaky

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Hhmm..how many SD cards have I replaced in the past few months or so.. So, it's actually a welcome breeze for me to have a phone with built in memory card.
 
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