Samsung Galaxy S6 hype thread

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fstime

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So I have noticed when I am using Tune-in Radio over LTE with my phone in my pocket, it gets pretty hot.

Is this normal for newer phones or possibly due to the metal chassis conducting heat?

I am coming from a HTC One X which I don't ever remember getting this hot just by streaming internet radio....
 

Commodus

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So I have noticed when I am using Tune-in Radio over LTE with my phone in my pocket, it gets pretty hot.

Is this normal for newer phones or possibly due to the metal chassis conducting heat?

I am coming from a HTC One X which I don't ever remember getting this hot just by streaming internet radio....

That's not entirely unexpected, but to check: what if you try something else, like Spotify? I suspect it's because TuneIn has to constantly stream audio (music services can cache songs, which helps), so it's working the modem and processor non-stop.
 

Achtung!

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Galaxy S6 sales reportedly hit "over 10M" at an unknown date.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_shipments_surpass_10m_behind_schedule-news-12322.php

The Galaxy S5 hit 10M shipments at 25 days after launch.

Note how I bolded "sales" and "shipments". Samsung shipped 20M Galaxy S6 units before the Galaxy S6 even launched. Whereas the Galaxy S5 took 25 days to ship just 10M units.
So if we interpret this correctly, the Galaxy S6 sold as many units in the 1st month of release as the Galaxy S5 got shipped in its 1st month of release.
That's a HUGE difference, meaning that the Galaxy S6 sold 10M in the 1st month release, whereas the Galaxy S5 may have only sold ~5M in the 1st month of release.

Also since the Galaxy S4 ended up selling much more than the Galaxy S5, it's too early to tell whether the Galaxy S6 will end up selling more than the Galaxy S4/S5.

With production issues for the Galaxy S6 Edge, and with the Galaxy S6 Edge variant making up 50% of total Galaxy S6 sales, this might be hurting Samsung in the short term. However, in the medium term, Samsung will be able to manufacture substantial Galaxy S6 Edge numbers, meaning it will sell much more in the end of Q2/Q3.

So we may see a larger growth in Galaxy S6 sales by September.
Also I don't think Samsung is fully focused on smartphone sales anymore. The soon-to-be CEO, Lee Jae-young, is actually focused on electric vehicles and autonomous driving technology now according to numerous sources.

Since Samsung overtook Apple in worldwide smartphone market share in Q1 2015, expect this to become even more pronounced by Q3 2015.

Apple is going to rely heavily on their next iPhone, the iPhone 6S. If the iPhone 6S sells well, then expect Apple's market value to reach $1 trillion USD. If it doesn't sell better than the iPhone 6, expect Apple's market value to plummet.
 
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Ichinisan

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Galaxy S6 sales reportedly hit "over 10M" at an unknown date.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_shipments_surpass_10m_behind_schedule-news-12322.php

The Galaxy S5 hit 10M shipments at 25 days after launch.

Note how I bolded "sales" and "shipments". Samsung shipped 20M Galaxy S6 units before the Galaxy S6 even launched. Whereas the Galaxy S5 took 25 days to ship just 10M units.
So if we interpret this correctly, the Galaxy S6 sold as many units in the 1st month of release as the Galaxy S5 got shipped in its 1st month of release.
That's a HUGE difference, meaning that the Galaxy S6 sold 10M in the 1st month release, whereas the Galaxy S5 may have only sold ~5M in the 1st month of release.

Also since the Galaxy S4 ended up selling much more than the Galaxy S5, it's too early to tell whether the Galaxy S6 will end up selling more than the Galaxy S4/S5.

With production issues for the Galaxy S6 Edge, and with the Galaxy S6 Edge variant making up 50% of total Galaxy S6 sales, this might be hurting Samsung in the short term. However, in the medium term, Samsung will be able to manufacture substantial Galaxy S6 Edge numbers, meaning it will sell much more in the end of Q2/Q3.

So we may see a larger growth in Galaxy S6 sales by September.
Also I don't think Samsung is fully focused on smartphone sales anymore. The soon-to-be CEO, Lee Jae-young, is actually focused on electric vehicles and autonomous driving technology now according to numerous sources.

Since Samsung overtook Apple in worldwide smartphone market share in Q1 2015, expect this to become even more pronounced by Q3 2015.

Apple is going to rely heavily on their next iPhone, the iPhone 6S. If the iPhone 6S sells well, then expect Apple's market value to reach $1 trillion USD. If it doesn't sell better than the iPhone 6, expect Apple's market value to plummet.

I honestly find it very hard to believe that the S6 + S6 Edge are out-selling the S5. It doesn't really make sense because there are multiple factors working against it. The S6 lacks water resistance (a killer feature of the S5). Also, there's no question that the S6's lack of SD card and lack of removable battery has turned-off some potential buyers. Historically, Samsung plays with the shipped-vs-sold numbers, knowing that many articles will appear in the blogosphere reporting shipped units incorrectly as "sold" units.
 
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I honestly find it very hard to believe that the S6 + S6 Edge are out-selling the S5. It doesn't really make sense because there are multiple factors working against it. The S6 lacks water resistance (a killer feature of the S5). Also, there's no question that the S6's lack of SD card and lack of removable battery has turned-off some potential buyers. Historically, Samsung plays with the shipped-vs-sold numbers, knowing that many articles will appear in the blogosphere reporting shipped units incorrectly as "sold" units.

So basically, you don't believe that the S6 has sold record amounts based on random anecdotal evidence?
 

blairharrington

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I honestly find it very hard to believe that the S6 + S6 Edge are out-selling the S5. It doesn't really make sense because there are multiple factors working against it. The S6 lacks water resistance (a killer feature of the S5). Also, there's no question that the S6's lack of SD card and lack of removable battery has turned-off some potential buyers. Historically, Samsung plays with the shipped-vs-sold numbers, knowing that many articles will appear in the blogosphere reporting shipped units incorrectly as "sold" units.

The S5 was a disaster for Samsung. The S6 is hugely more impressive. How could it not be outselling the S5 is the better question.

Water resistance and a lack of SD card slot and removable battery have never hurt iPhone sales. The same will be true of the S6 series. SD slot and removable battery were always niche audiences to begin with.
 

ControlD

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The S5 was a disaster for Samsung. The S6 is hugely more impressive. How could it not be outselling the S5 is the better question.

Water resistance and a lack of SD card slot and removable battery have never hurt iPhone sales. The same will be true of the S6 series. SD slot and removable battery were always niche audiences to begin with.

I would say water resistance wasn't a huge selling point for a lot of the people that purchased the S5 as well. Which is good, because that stupid usb port cover breaks off about the third time you go to charge the phone.
 

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I honestly find it very hard to believe that the S6 + S6 Edge are out-selling the S5. It doesn't really make sense because there are multiple factors working against it. The S6 lacks water resistance (a killer feature of the S5). Also, there's no question that the S6's lack of SD card and lack of removable battery has turned-off some potential buyers. Historically, Samsung plays with the shipped-vs-sold numbers, knowing that many articles will appear in the blogosphere reporting shipped units incorrectly as "sold" units.

the S5 was a turd, everyone knows this
 

WelshBloke

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the S5 was a turd, everyone knows this
I really like the S5. Its (in some incarnations) got a great SoC (SD805), it's waterproof, it's got a great screen, expandable storage, has the option of a 3500mAh battery, feels better than any previous galaxy phone....

I get that those things don't matter to everyone but it's certainly not a turd. If I had a free choice between an S6 and an LTE-A S5 I'd still pick the S5.
 

Commodus

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Yeah, the S5 wasn't bad. The problem is that it was a very uninspiring release. The screen was pretty similar, the performance differences were hard to quantify, and a lot of the features weren't exactly exciting, such as waterproofing or the heart rate sensor. It also epitomized, well, Samsungness: that 'fake premium' design (see the plastic masquerading as chrome), loads of software bloat, and an emphasis on feature quantity over quality.

The GS6 is interesting precisely because it's the first instance in a long while of Samsung really "getting it." Hardware upgrades that you're definitely going to notice. Understanding that premium design usually means premium materials. Realizing that it's better to do a few features well instead of simply padding the feature checklist. It was following the spirit of Apple's design, not just copying bits and pieces of it.
 

Achtung!

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Galaxy S6 is selling 300% more than the Galaxy S5!
So the real news is out. An analyst with access to Samsung's inside information has come out and said that these are the daily sales of Samsung's current and previous flagships:

Galaxy S6 = 305,000/day
Galaxy S5 = 124,000/day
Galaxy S4 = 241,000/day

Most importantly, the Galaxy S6 was only initially available in 20 countries, while the Galaxy S5 was initially available in 150 countries.
This makes the 305,000/day figure for the Galaxy S6 even more surprising. As Samsung releases the Galaxy S6 in more and more countries, sales will start to skyrocket from there.

So, all of those media reports saying that the Galaxy S6 is selling less than expected are false, at least for now. We'll have to look into Galaxy S6 sales in Q2 and Q3 to really know what's going on. Remember Galaxy S6 sales can still do very well in Q4 and even Q1 2016. So only time will tell.

GSM Arena
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_exec_says_galaxy_s6_and_s6_edge_are_selling_well-news-12483.php

Original news report
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/05/133_179896.html

Samsung says S6 sales meet internal forecast

A senior Samsung Electronics executive said Sunday that its Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge are selling well, refuting media reports that sales had fallen dramatically short of expectations.

"Sales of the S6 and S6 Edge are meeting our internal target. S6 sales will clearly be higher than those of the S5. Samsung will aggressively promote sales in our target markets," the executive said in a telephone interview, asking not to be identified.

A Samsung spokesman in Seoul refused to release any official information on sales; but the company is expected to unveil figures at its upcoming investor relations forum on June 3.

Such remarks come a few days after Samsung Electronics Corporate Affairs President Park Sang-jin told reporters that the firm has been seeing a steady increase of sales on international markets.

"You have to wait and see; however, the S6 and S6 Edge sales will be far higher than those of the S5" he said.

The two models were unveiled during the Mobile World Congress 2015 event at the beginning of March. Both models were made available for purchase in April.

Citing a report by CounterPoint Research, a research firm, eBEST Investment analyst Kim Hyun-yong said Samsung sold 6.1 million S6s and S6 Edges in April.

He added 305,000 S6s were being sold daily since the devices' availability ― better than the S5 and S4's 124,000 and 241,000 per day, respectively.

At a recent meeting with reporters, Samsung Electronics mobile chief Shin Jong-kyun said the company won't release its next Note series ― tentatively named Galaxy Note 5 ― earlier than expected. Samsung usually announces its new Note series at an annual IFA trade exhibition in Berlin, Germany.

Such a strong denial appears to be an attempt to boost sales of the S6 and S6 Edge series, according to officials.

Samsung Display, an affiliate of Samsung Electronics, is on track to boost output of curved panels for the S6 Edge to meet healthy demand for the Edge version, which costs more than the non-curved models.

"Samsung Electronics may report a healthier operating profit during the second quarter thanks to good sales of the S6 and S6 Edge products," Kim said.
 
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mrochester

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Galaxy S6 is selling 300% more than the Galaxy S5!
So the real news is out. An analyst with access to Samsung's inside information has come out and said that these are the daily sales of Samsung's current and previous flagships:

Galaxy S6 = 305,000/day
Galaxy S5 = 124,000/day
Galaxy S4 = 241,000/day

Most importantly, the Galaxy S6 was only initially available in 20 countries, while the Galaxy S5 was initially available in 150 countries.
This makes the 305,000/day figure for the Galaxy S6 even more surprising. As Samsung releases the Galaxy S6 in more and more countries, sales will start to skyrocket from there.

So, all of those media reports saying that the Galaxy S6 is selling less than expected are false, at least for now. We'll have to look into Galaxy S6 sales in Q2 and Q3 to really know what's going on. Remember Galaxy S6 sales can still do very well in Q4 and even Q1 2016. So only time will tell.

GSM Arena
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_exec_says_galaxy_s6_and_s6_edge_are_selling_well-news-12483.php

Original news report
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2015/05/133_179896.html

How do you know this news isn't also false?
 

Artdeco

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I dunno about the rest of the members here, but I really don't care about sales numbers, "normals" buy phones in large numbers, I buy what meets my needs.

And since these numbers aren't subject to SEC rules, I take them with a huge grain of salt, especially coming from an "analyst"
 
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WelshBloke

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I dunno about the rest of the members here, but I really don't care about sales numbers...

In my experience people care about sales numbers as long as those numbers back up their position, as soon as they differ from that position they lose interest.
 

maco

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My parents recently got a S6 each, and between them they cannot get the fingerprint reader to work more than 33% of the time. Granted, they're not good with technology, but I can't tell if they're just 'using it wrong', or the sensor isn't good.

I've used touch ID on an iPad and had no problems, so I guess I expected the feature would be as good on the S6.
 

Artdeco

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In my experience people care about sales numbers as long as those numbers back up their position, as soon as they differ from that position they lose interest.

I'll wait for the quarterlies, Samsung has a long history of fudging the numbers even from themselves, LOL.

The fact is Android essentially owns the phone market and will for the foreseeable future with 80% market share worldwide, and Samsung is the clear winner among manufacturers.

And for the record, I have 2 Note 4's, 128 mSD cards, extra batteries, and a Gear VR Headset. Have owned every version of the Note series, they're a beast, and the screen on the 4 is amazing...

My daily carry phone is an iP6, but I use the 4 on weekends/traveling when I take off the Apple Watch.
 
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foghorn67

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My parents recently got a S6 each, and between them they cannot get the fingerprint reader to work more than 33% of the time. Granted, they're not good with technology, but I can't tell if they're just 'using it wrong', or the sensor isn't good.

I've used touch ID on an iPad and had no problems, so I guess I expected the feature would be as good on the S6.

This is ALL biometric fingerprint scanners.
The older you get, the worse it gets. Skin oil doesn't replenish as often on the extremeties. Have them touch their forehead or cheek to dab skin oil to enhance the contrast.
 

Artdeco

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My parents recently got a S6 each, and between them they cannot get the fingerprint reader to work more than 33% of the time. Granted, they're not good with technology, but I can't tell if they're just 'using it wrong', or the sensor isn't good.

I've used touch ID on an iPad and had no problems, so I guess I expected the feature would be as good on the S6.

The scanner on the S6 is supposed to be about equal to Apple's scanner, one of the tricks is to scan the same finger as another multiple times, you'll get near 100% success doing that.
 

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I got an S6 Edge on the weekend and I can say the fingerprint does work most of the time it's just a bit different then on the iPhone which I also have from work. On the Edge it's like the fingerprint reader doesn't start to scan your fingerprint until after the home button is pressed so if you remove your finger to quick it will fail. On the iPhone it's like the fingerprint reader is checking all the time. Like others have posted save multiple fingerprints, from different angles you may unlock your phone with. It helps immensely. So far I'm enjoying my Edge phone, I do not use a case as I prefer to use my phones as they were designed.
 
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