Samsung Magician 4.6

[Berryracer]

Not even published on Samsung's own website yet, Enjoy it ahead of the crowd, this is the final version

http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...loads/software/Samsung_Magician_Setup_v46.zip

No new Firmware yet (840EVO or 850pro)

PS: No support for RAID as usual

Link down but it has been uploaded to the Major Geeks Servers: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/samsung_ssd_magician.html

 

[BlueWeasel]

Does this include the latest fix or updated firmware for EVO drives?

 

[Turab]

Thanks for the sharing @berryracer

Does this include the latest fix or updated firmware for EVO drives?

Good question !

But since there is no a manual has been published around, we have to wait some 840 EVO users to report their experiences.

 

[Berryracer]

Does this include the latest fix or updated firmware for EVO drives?

I don't know I'm on RAID so it doesn't work. Why don't you try it!

 

[Berryracer]

Thanks for the sharing @berryracer



Good question !

But since there is no a manual has been published around, we have to wait some 840 EVO users to report their experiences.

welcome man.

don't wait for any firmware to fix the issue. it's a hardware problem due to the 19nm NAND they use in the EVOs which was fixed in the 850 EVO. No firmware is going to fix that.

 

[razel]

Own a 840 with an OS install that's been sitting since July. Too lazy to toss it on ebay. Been waiting for a firmware, but none came of yet. No reason to complain though because I've been lucky with it and after running SSDReadSpeed it's not affected.

To emphasize, the 840 issue doesn't affect everyone. It seems as if it's a NAND QA issue that may not be QA-able. Samsung's best solution for current owners maybe just to send you a new drive if you are affected. However it's probably best to send an 850 to affected 840 users if they can prove they are affected.

 

[Berryracer]

Own a 840 with an OS install that's been sitting since July. Too lazy to toss it on ebay. Been waiting for a firmware, but none came of yet. No reason to complain though because I've been lucky with it and after running SSDReadSpeed it's not affected.

To emphasize, the 840 issue doesn't affect everyone. It seems as if it's a NAND QA issue that may not be QA-able. Samsung's best solution for current owners maybe just to send you a new drive if you are affected. However it's probably best to send an 850 to affected 840 users if they can prove they are affected.

I can't disagree with you, my 840 EVO mSATA 1TB never suffered from this issue

benchmarks:

I have 3 SSDs:


2x850 PRO 1TB + 840 EVO mSATA 1TB that does NOT ever suffer from the slowdown issue of old files like many have as I haven't noticed it.


Now I am currently running in RDx3. Someone here once told me that I am hurting my performance as the IOPS of the 840 EVO mSATA 1TB is much lower than the 1TB 850 PROs but according to my testing, this wasn't the case as I got higher scores in RDx3 vs RDx2 also in the IOPS


My workflow is surfing the net and playing some games sometimes and watching movies


so how do you think I should run my system? single 850 PRO 1 TB or RDx2 with the 850 PRO 1TB despite the lower benchmarks that you can see below or keep my current setup?


PS: please don't mention that there is a risk in RAID 0 if one drive the whole array is lost, I don't care about that, I take daily backups and have never had any SSD fail on me in the past 5 years I've been using SSDs so data loss is not a concern


Single 850 PRO 1TB:

Single 840 EVO mSATA 1TB:

2x 850 PRO 1TB:

2x 850 PRO 1TB IOPS:

2x850 PRO 1TB + 840 EVO mSATA 1TB:

2x850 PRO 1TB + 840 EVO mSATA 1TB IOPS:

 

[Hellhammer]

don't wait for any firmware to fix the issue. it's a hardware problem due to the 19nm NAND they use in the EVOs which was fixed in the 850 EVO. No firmware is going to fix that.

While hardware is a part of why the issue exists, it's not a physical hardware issue that can't be fixed with software. There's a new firmware coming, but it's not part of the Magician 4.6 suite itself.

 

[Micrornd]

While hardware is a part of why the issue exists, it's not a physical hardware issue that can't be fixed with software. There's a new firmware coming, but it's not part of the Magician 4.6 suite itself.

Any idea when?

Seems like I saw on numerous sites that it would be released at the end of March, but............

 

[Berryracer]

While hardware is a part of why the issue exists, it's not a physical hardware issue that can't be fixed with software. There's a new firmware coming, but it's not part of the Magician 4.6 suite itself.

well that's good to know. Thanks chief

 

[Phynaz]

Tech Report has details of the new firmware.

http://techreport.com/news/28112/new-840-evo-fix-adds-periodic-refresh-to-firmware

"Periodic refresh feature"

 

[coercitiv]

Tech Report has details of the new firmware.

http://techreport.com/news/28112/new-840-evo-fix-adds-periodic-refresh-to-firmware

"Periodic refresh feature"

At least it addresses the situation, and it's been already discussed that refreshing the unused cells periodically will hardly decrease the lifespan of the device. (less than 3-4 P/E cycles per year estimate)

However, I'd like to see Samsung fix the original 840 as well, and see firmware fixes for OEM SKUs of 840 Evo. (my PM851 badly needs it)

 

[Phynaz]

I just think it's funny calling a work around for a major design flaw a "feature".

Marketing at its best.