Samsung S7 rumors, speculation, and suggestions

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lopri

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Let us know how it works out. I was not convinced of the silver model on store floor - I thought it looked like something out of All-Clad catalog. Heh. Is white an option for either the S7 or the Edge?
 

Goosemaster

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Verge just gave the s7edge a 9.1 (6s got a a 9.0)

I think we should prepare for the end times

*cowers with loved ones in basement*
 

ChronoReverse

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I'm glad Anandtech finally fixed their web-browsing tests. It's pretty amusing to see the top phones drop 4 hours (i.e., matching the results of everyone else ever).
 

Commodus

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Verge just gave the s7edge a 9.1 (6s got a a 9.0)

I think we should prepare for the end times

*cowers with loved ones in basement*

Ha, I don't think The Verge or other general tech sites are as pro-Apple as some Android fans think -- they're just using somewhat different criteria to decide what makes a good phone, and the uncomfortable truth is that only a few Android flagships pass muster. It's about the real-world experience, not just the specs, and that frustrates someone trying to brag about his quad HD screen and eight-core processor.

The S7 is getting high ratings because it preserves the best parts of the S6 (and S5, even) while addressing key complaints and improving performance. Outside of the usual gripes about TouchWiz, it's a textbook example of good iterative design.
 

sweenish

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Ha, I don't think The Verge or other general tech sites are as pro-Apple as some Android fans think -- they're just using somewhat different criteria to decide what makes a good phone, and the uncomfortable truth is that only a few Android flagships pass muster. It's about the real-world experience, not just the specs, and that frustrates someone trying to brag about his quad HD screen and eight-core processor.

The S7 is getting high ratings because it preserves the best parts of the S6 (and S5, even) while addressing key complaints and improving performance. Outside of the usual gripes about TouchWiz, it's a textbook example of good iterative design.

Except that the verge shills, hard.

Back when they reviewed Windows 8, the ecosystem sub-score was like an 8. They shill so hard. And let's never forget Nilay and the Apple Watch review.
 

Commodus

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Except that the verge shills, hard.

Back when they reviewed Windows 8, the ecosystem sub-score was like an 8. They shill so hard. And let's never forget Nilay and the Apple Watch review.

I'm not sure I'd call the Apple Watch review a shill. They had a lavish write-up and extended video treatment, sure, but they gave it a 7 and were quite vocal about the problems. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement.

My beef is more that many people, regardless of platform, expect reviews to validate their preconceived opinions. The classic example is the Anything But Apple camp insisting that no Apple product can ever get a good review, but I'll see Apple and Microsoft fans do similar things, or even those who back particular Android phones (say, Nexus loyalists ragging on a Samsung review). It's hard for many of us to take a step back and remember that reviews aren't written just for ourselves, and that they may tell us things we don't want to hear.
 

poofyhairguy

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Ha, I don't think The Verge or other general tech sites are as pro-Apple as some Android fans think -- they're just using somewhat different criteria to decide what makes a good phone

They do use a different criteria- is it made by Apple or not?

Seriously you can't defend Nilay. His Apple fanboyism is famous at this point.

It's about the real-world experience

Like how the fonts on the non-plus iPhone look like crap compared to every other flagship phone since 2013? Or how the 1Gb of RAM iPhone 6 was a Safari tab reloading beast? Or how the current iPhone's bevels are so large compared to Android phones the device LOOKS years older than the competition? Nah, they never share those real-world experiences.

When it comes to technology sites the only ones I trust on iPhone reviews are the ones that very clearly told readers that the iPhone 5s had less effective RAM than the iPhone 5. The Verge isn't on that list.

The S7 is getting high ratings because it preserves the best parts of the S6 (and S5, even) while addressing key complaints and improving performance.

AKA: "It validates Apple not changing their form factor every year."
 

Commodus

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They do use a different criteria- is it made by Apple or not?

Seriously you can't defend Nilay. His Apple fanboyism is famous at this point.

A score of 7 is fanboyism? The Galaxy S7 getting a higher score than the iPhone 6s is fanboyism?

This is what I'm talking about. There's an urge to spin any semi-positive take on a given company's products (especially Apple) as proof that a site is in a company's pocket. Gave it a 7? It really deserved a 5.



Like how the fonts on the non-plus iPhone look like crap compared to every other flagship phone since 2013? Or how the 1Gb of RAM iPhone 6 was a Safari tab reloading beast? Or how the current iPhone's bevels are so large compared to Android phones the device LOOKS years older than the competition? Nah, they never share those real-world experiences.

I'll let you in on a little secret:

Those aspects don't really matter to most people.

First: at least in my experience, the fonts on my iPhone 6 look fine. Not as good as on a 1080p or quad HD phone, of course, but they're not "crap." Yes, the 1GB of RAM can make Safari reloading annoying, but how many people do you know not only keep several browser tabs open, but insist on maintaining the exact page state in every one? And bezels? You can certainly complain if they make a device too wide or tall, but "it makes the phone look old" is both too subjective and not exactly a burning point of contention.

This is what drives me nuts -- that tendency for fans to make mountains out of molehills, and then accuse sites of unfair bias because they're not looking at the molehills. The Galaxy S7 isn't a great phone because it has more RAM, thinner bezels or prettier fonts. It's the top-level things that matter: it's practically fast, is well-designed as a whole, and improves those elements that real people notice every day, like battery life.



AKA: "It validates Apple not changing their form factor every year."

Talk about contorting data to support a point. You do realize that you're saying The Verge (and it's not even Nilay) is giving the S7 a glowing review to make Apple look better, right? That's some next-level conspiracy theory creation. Occam's Razor: they genuinely liked both phones, and the S7 slightly more so.
 

poofyhairguy

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You do realize that you're saying The Verge (and it's not even Nilay) is giving the S7 a glowing review to make Apple look better, right?

No I am saying they have conditioned themselves to love the way Apple does things so much that when Samsung has a similar refresh they have to like that too by default. They have justified for so long Apple keeping a form factor for two years that now they have to support Samsung doing that as well to not be hypocrites.

But that is just my opinion and you have yours. I love our iPhone vs Android sparing (where we both takes positions on the extremes and try to defend them) but let's not ruin the S7 thread. I owe you a raincheck, we will pick it up some other time. I promise the next time Apple pulls some bullshit to cut a corner no other OEM would cut for a little margin and planned obsolescence we will pick up right where we left off. For now I say you win this thread for the good of everyone else, my rant about effective RAM and power per pixel is always ready I promise.
 

Chaptorial

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Pre-ordered an S7 Edge in black. This is going to upgrade my Galaxy S4 so I have a feeling I'm in for a treat. :thumbsup:

Went with this case recommended earlier in this thread:

nice low-profile case (minimal corner protection but my favorite so far of the three that I've ordered - a few folks didn't even notice that I had a case on):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A7IDCC2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

New to wireless charging can anyone recommended a good one for use with the S7?

Was looking at this one: Spigen Wireless Charging Pad - 3 Coil Charger
 

Artdeco

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Reviews are very good, may pick one up used on swappa after some long term tests, and a significant price drop (s7 edge).
 

poofyhairguy

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He's hilarious. Granted that he's not actually trying to be funny but all the same...

To him a product category doesn't really exist until Apple is in that category. Apple might as well have invented smartwatches or set top boxes to him. I even heard him say once "Apple popularized the large screen phone," basically arguing since Apple sold the most phablets it might as well have invented that category too. It gets old, yet another "analyst" that makes me miss Anand.
 

shabby

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WelshBloke

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To him a product category doesn't really exist until Apple is in that category. Apple might as well have invented smartwatches or set top boxes to him. I even heard him say once "Apple popularized the large screen phone," basically arguing since Apple sold the most phablets it might as well have invented that category too. It gets old, yet another "analyst" that makes me miss Anand.
This "article" of his is gold.

http://m.imore.com/galaxy-s7-samsung-still-cant-achieve-apple-level-industrial-design
 

Artdeco

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To him a product category doesn't really exist until Apple is in that category. Apple might as well have invented smartwatches or set top boxes to him. I even heard him say once "Apple popularized the large screen phone," basically arguing since Apple sold the most phablets it might as well have invented that category too. It gets old, yet another "analyst" that makes me miss Anand.

I like their articles on Apple Music, it's horrible, and they can't say anything bad about it.
 
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