Samsung S7 rumors, speculation, and suggestions

dawheat

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So it's been a pretty rough year all around for Android flagships - however the S7 is slated for a January unveiling as Samsung accelerates their product launches (Note 5 was over a month "early").

1. Next Exynos SOC may catch up to the A9 overall, though I hope Samsung doesn't go for all-out scores and instead picks a reasonable max clock to maximize battery life. http://wccftech.com/mongoose-soc-from-samsung-shows-dominating-benchmark-results/

The Qualcomm S820 is rumored to be used in certain markets like the US - it may not provide the all-out performance of the M1, but should still be a great performer with the benefit of Qualcomm's superior modems in LTE markets.

2. The S6 camera is still arguably the best smartphone camera, but if they manage to get the sensor for the Z5 + Samsung's superior software, it should make for quite the camera. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ia-Z5-camera-sensor-for-the-Galaxy-S7_id75344.

3. Display - speculation that Samsung may only release Edge versions for the S7, in both a normal and Plus size version. Expect some functionality bumps but at minimum it'll provide a design differentiator for 2016. I also hope they stick with a 1440p screen in the normal S7, with the normal annual improvements in brightness, power consumption, and accuracy. No need to jump to a higher res when the SOC can't handle it well. Or do something like Sony and have only media, browsing, and VR games render natively in say a 3K screen, but have normal games and such run at 1080p.

4. USB type C is almost a certainty.

5. Things I hope to see:
- Renewed focus on battery life. Like the improvement from the S4 to the S5, battery life on the S7 has to be better. Doesn't matter if it's a combination of Android 6.0, SOC improvements, or other tweaks, but S7 real world battery life has to at least Note 5 level IMO.
- Even lighter Touchwiz - take another step in lightening TW like the S5 to the S6. Stock android is a pipe dream.
- Removal of the mechanical home button. I think a capacitive button on the front or back would be superior as it would give more space for a fingerprint read and be more reliable. Improve the reliability of the fingerprint scanner.
- Speaker improvement - this personally isn't very important to me but I would like it to be bigger than the tiny holes on the bottom which are easy to cover. Stereo speakers like the Moto X Style would be ideal as it still kept bezels small, but even speakers on the bottom of the phone that are on both sides of the USB plug would be good enough for me.
- All metal build is rumored - please keep wireless charging as well as I'm used to the convenience.

6. Things that could shake up the market:
- Release a base 32GB version and only a 128GB version for $100 more. Make storage even faster by using SSD type storage like Apple (Samsung, you are the biggest SSD OEM).
- Release a carrier free version in the US and other developed markets. Other OEMs have done this for a while, Samsung doing so would be long overdue and continue to put the pressure on carriers to be more competitive.
 

ultimatebob

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I just hope that they do not release a 16 GB version. Please help send Apple a message that 16 GB is not enough storage for a flagship phone model!
 

Commodus

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Those predictions are generally sound. I'd add one big feature, though: pressure-sensitive touch.

Let's face it... Samsung may be more original than it has been in the past, but it's still neurotic about matching the tentpole features that Apple introduced several months earlier (S Voice to dupe Siri, a fingerprint reader to dupe Touch ID, and so on). A generic pressure-sensitive touch option should be available from Synaptics by the time the GS7 is official, so it's not a far-fetched idea.
 

Oyeve

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Those predictions are generally sound. I'd add one big feature, though: pressure-sensitive touch.

Let's face it... Samsung may be more original than it has been in the past, but it's still neurotic about matching the tentpole features that Apple introduced several months earlier (S Voice to dupe Siri, a fingerprint reader to dupe Touch ID, and so on). A generic pressure-sensitive touch option should be available from Synaptics by the time the GS7 is official, so it's not a far-fetched idea.

Bah, samsung doesnt need to copy force-touch. Long press is just fine on android. I honestly don't know anyone who uses force-touch. or whatever they call it. And I know several 6s users. I set up about 10 in the last month and not one uses it.

I just hope the s7 offers 200gb option. Or at least 128gb. 64 is just not enough when may have had it for 2+ years now.
 

KeithP

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At this point, the only thing that would get me interested in a Samsung phone is if they make all their "enhancements" app-based and leave the OS alone. That way a user could easily opt out of them by deactivating the app. They should also commit to faster updates.

The other thing they could do is make the phone thinner and reduce the battery capacity. Everyone knows that is the path to a killer phone.

-KeithP
 

dawheat

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what's so bad about battery life on the S6? It's excellent imo.

Hmm that goes against what I hear from owners - generally they find it OK but need to top off in the afternoon if they need it in the evening. Online you hear more extreme cases which do occur with any phone, but there were a lot of them with the S6. Fast charging helps, but it's more like a good band-aid on an issue. I don't think two day battery life is needed for most users, but enough to get most users through a day with some buffer like the S5 is the minimum.

I do think part of it was software as the Note 5 doesn't have that much bigger a battery while having a bigger screen, the battery life on the Note 5 is fine (though not amazing).
 

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I wonder if Qualcomm's ultrasonic fingerprint reader will be available in the first Snapdragon 820 devices.
 

dawheat

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I wonder if Qualcomm's ultrasonic fingerprint reader will be available in the first Snapdragon 820 devices.

Hmm first I heard about this - sounds quite cool.

After reading the Anandtech iPhone review, the M1 and S820 have quite a bit to live up to. I don't think either will overall match the A9, but I'd be more than OK with in the ballpark performance as long as power consumption is good.

I do think the camera results are more equivocal for a new iPhone than ever before - basically came across to me that the 6 Plus and the Note 5 are pretty close and the regular 6S is worse than both.

I think the S7 is a real opportunity for Samsung to take a clear lead in overall camera quality - daylight, low light, focus, camera app, etc - especially when comparing the S7 and 6S as the volume sellers.
 

Midwayman

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Bah, samsung doesnt need to copy force-touch. Long press is just fine on android. I honestly don't know anyone who uses force-touch. or whatever they call it. And I know several 6s users. I set up about 10 in the last month and not one uses it.

And those are users you had to setup a phone for.... 3d touch is neat. Its not ubiquitous enough to catch the mainstream user yet. Give it 6mo-year and see what novel uses devs have come up with. I can certainly see the potential and its way better than long press. Just needs time for the software to catch up.
 

poofyhairguy

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Force (3D) touch is basically a right mouse button for a phone. Just like a real right mouse button 10% of the population will use it to its full potential and sing its praises. The other 90% will use it sparingly and be pissed when actions can only be reached by using it.

The fact that the iPhone now has the right mouse button that Steve was so against proves without a shadow of a doubt his deadness.
 

blankslate

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Samsung should make a version of the Note 6 that lets the user change out batteries and use a micro-SD card.

Probably will never happen though.


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Shlong

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Samsung should make a version of the Note 6 that lets the user change out batteries and use a micro-SD card.

Probably will never happen though.


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A regular S7 with top of the line specs, plastic or some other cheap material, changeable batteries and a microSD slot.

S7 Edge with same specs but premium materials and no changeable batteries / microSD slot.
 

WelshBloke

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Samsung should make a version of the Note 6 that lets the user change out batteries and use a micro-SD card.

Probably will never happen though.


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That's what the active version should be IMHO (along with being waterproof).
 

dawheat

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Samsung should make a version of the Note 6 that lets the user change out batteries and use a micro-SD card.

Probably will never happen though.
I'd love a version with the above and let users pick which one they want - but I'm pretty sure that boat has sailed for Samsung for the S and Note series.

A regular S7 with top of the line specs, plastic or some other cheap material, changeable batteries and a microSD slot.

S7 Edge with same specs but premium materials and no changeable batteries / microSD slot.

Same as above - I'd love variety but outside of the niche Active variant, I'm pretty sure Samsung is going to double down on design with the S7.

Give users a choice for up to 128GB SSD-type storage and most will grudgingly pay. Make battery life good and most users will move on.
 

SAWYER

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S6 battery life isnt bad but it isnt good either. fast charging really helps though, I could get 3-3.5 hours screen on time with mine. Samsung has too much crud in TW though, they need to strip it down even more. TW cruft plus carrier bloat is insanity
 

WelshBloke

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Give users a choice for up to 128GB SSD-type storage and most will grudgingly pay. Make battery life good and most users will move on.

Both those points are true. Even with the SD card improvements in Android 6 I'd take 128gb built in storage and USB 3 (fast internal storage and fast transfers).
I'd be loathe to give up my removable batteries. It's really convenient to just have a battery in an external charger and swap out the flat one. 0% to 100% in a couple of seconds beats any fast charge.
 

lopri

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what's so bad about battery life on the S6? It's excellent imo.

I am almost certain that the fault lies in the software, particularly bloatwares. I had my worries prior to getting one (unlocked international model) but I was pleasantly surprised. Not a record breaking battery performance but it is nowhere near as bad as some made it out to be. I guess that has to do with the phone being relatively bloat-free. It is by far my favorite smartphone since the venerable iPhone 4. I cannot look away from its gorgeous screen.

Its standby battery leaks are problematic, though. To be fair that was a problem for all Android phones except for Sony's until 6.0 introduced Doze. The 5X is an easily a 5+ hour SOT phone for me. The S6 is a 4+ hour SOT phone and the difference is solely due to the S6's lackluster standby battery performance. It is never fun to see ~15% of battery drained overnight.

So I hope Samsung figure out a way to say no to the carriers and further reduce bloats. I mean, look at that Flipboard thing - in every S6 review you see that thing stutter and drop frames like flies. That has to be an embarrassment and makes you wonder what their product team were thinking.

Reducing (better yet, cutting off) carrier bloats and further streamlining Touchwize will go a long way. It will mean fewer models, less consumer confusions, faster updates, better batter life, and more consistent performance. Easier said than done, probably, for many (business) reasons, but as a consumer and an enthusiast I could care less about Samsung's financial well-beings. All I care about is tech and beauty.

Other than that I am not sure what I would like to see on the S7 yet. (well, I've had the S6 only for a couple months) I can say, though, that I hope they do not make it any bigger. If anything I would like to see them making it slightly smaller (~5") so that one-handed use is easier. Same goes for the Edge version's ergonomics.
 

lopri

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Is smartphone one word, or should it be spelled smart phone? How about smartwatch? Smart watch?

/off-topic
 

blankslate

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S6 battery life isnt bad but it isnt good either. fast charging really helps though, I could get 3-3.5 hours screen on time with mine. Samsung has too much crud in TW though, they need to strip it down even more. TW cruft plus carrier bloat is insanity

Charging faster generates more heat in the battery which in turn produces more wear on it.

It's a definite trade off. It might be why the iPhone 6 (and 6s?) doesn't tout fast charging as a feature (although it is possible to do with charging bricks made for other Apple devices afaik).

It's why I like having 2 spare batteries for my smartphone. I don't need fast charging and can charge the batteries such that their useful lives are extended.

Sure it takes a little more effort, but not that much really compared to the benefits.

As for the cruft in Touchwiz maybe try a different launcher? Apex and Nova launcher seem to be fairly light on resources. You could also use the google launcher as well if you wish as it is also on the Playstore


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Oyeve

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I'm done with Samsung. The s6 and all of the variants and the Note 5 took way too many things out. I ordered an LGV10 yesterday and it should be here today. Bye bye sammy!
 

Commodus

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Bah, samsung doesnt need to copy force-touch. Long press is just fine on android. I honestly don't know anyone who uses force-touch. or whatever they call it. And I know several 6s users. I set up about 10 in the last month and not one uses it.

I just hope the s7 offers 200gb option. Or at least 128gb. 64 is just not enough when may have had it for 2+ years now.

Oh, it doesn't need to... but it probably will. Remember, Samsung copied Passbook with its Wallet app just because it didn't want to be seen as missing out. I'm not ruling out the possibility that it'll forego a 3D Touch-alike, but the company's obsession with Apple is hard to ignore.
 

gorcorps

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I'm done with Samsung. The s6 and all of the variants and the Note 5 took way too many things out. I ordered an LGV10 yesterday and it should be here today. Bye bye sammy!

I was looking at that, but thought it was too big with the added 2nd display. I'll be interested in hearing what you think of it though.
 
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