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Ackmed

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If he lied on stand, he deserves to be punished as harshly as possible. Even more so than if a normal citizen did it.

Winner winner chicken dinner! I'm so glad u wear it as a badge of honor

Except you (still) don't have a clue.
 
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Londo_Jowo

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I wouldn't break out the party hats just yet, according to local lawyers it going to be difficult at best to prove the statement beyond a reasonable doubt as being perjury. If he's acquitted he will more than likely be reinstated as a state trooper.

The trooper wrote that he removed Ms. Bland from her car in order to conduct a safe traffic investigation, but “the grand jury found that statement to be false,” a special prosecutor, Shawn McDonald, said.
 

malabo

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I wouldn't break out the party hats just yet, according to local lawyers it going to be difficult at best to prove the statement beyond a reasonable doubt as being perjury. If he's acquitted he will more than likely be reinstated as a state trooper.

Most people don't realize that officers usually aren't fired permanently. Usually what happens is they are quietly rehired once all the public outrage has subsided
 

HumblePie

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Most people don't realize that officers usually aren't fired permanently. Usually what happens is they are quietly rehired once all the public outrage has subsided

That didn't happen with officer Wilson in Ferguson.
 

Ackmed

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Nope, found not guilty, and was not fired. Yet has to hide. Bought a house that his name is not on the title. Has security cameras linked to his phone on the property because of death threats. Not guilty, yet cannot find work as a cop. Told he is a liability. Thanks to the rush to judgement, lies of witnesses, and extremely poor media reporting this is his world now.
 

mysticjbyrd

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Nope, found not guilty, and was not fired. Yet has to hide. Bought a house that his name is not on the title. Has security cameras linked to his phone on the property because of death threats. Not guilty, yet cannot find work as a cop. Told he is a liability. Thanks to the rush to judgement, lies of witnesses, and extremely poor media reporting this is his world now.

Of course he was found not guilty... The system is rigged... The guilt is obvious to anyone who watched that tape.
 

Ackmed

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Of course he was found not guilty... The system is rigged... The guilt is obvious to anyone who watched that tape.

There was no tape of the event we were talking about. Try reading the posts before replying, I was responding to a post about Darren Wilson.

But hey, nice ignorant blanket statement.
 

mysticjbyrd

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There was no tape of the event we were talking about. Try reading the posts before replying, I was responding to a post about Darren Wilson.

But hey, nice ignorant blanket statement.

Then you are off topic.

It's not a blanket statement either, it's a factual one.

What's most important is who you know, followed closely by how much money you have. Actual guilt is tertiary at best!
 

Ackmed

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Then you are off topic.

It's not a blanket statement either, it's a factual one.

What's most important is who you know, followed closely by how much money you have. Actual guilt is tertiary at best!

I was responding to someone, who was posting in regards to cops being found innocent and then going back to the job. Suggesting this cop would be. Poster before me stated Wilson didn't get that. You obviously didn't follow this simple path. Don't get all butt hurt about it.

It is an ignorant blanket statement, you're claiming that every single court system is rigged because the 'system' is. That is incredibly ignorant, and wrong. Are some courts and court members? Yep, it's been proven so. Not all as you claimed.
 
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I learned a long time ago...you fuck with police, and they'll fuck with you. Not saying this is acceptable...it's just what I've found to be true from years of "personal" experience.
 

BoberFett

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I learned a long time ago...you fuck with police, and they'll fuck with you. Not saying this is acceptable...it's just what I've found to be true from years of "personal" experience.

It is true. And when they do abuse their authority they need to be smacked down hard to remind them of where they derive their authority. Something about the consent of the governed...
 
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It is true. And when they do abuse their authority they need to be smacked down hard to remind them of where they derive their authority. Something about the consent of the governed...
Sandra Bland and I couldn't agree more...the only difference being is that I'm alive to say it and she isn't.
 

Moonbeam

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Sandra Bland and I couldn't agree more...the only difference being is that I'm alive to say it and she isn't.

Do you attribute your survival to extra skills, knowledge, intelligence or maybe even skin color you may have had over what she had, or do you think it more a matter of chance in operation, simple good fortune.
 
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Do you attribute your survival to extra skills, knowledge, intelligence or maybe even skin color you may have had over what she had, or do you think it more a matter of chance in operation, simple good fortune.
I think it would be fair to say 'simple good fortune' should not be underestimated....nor common sense for that matter.
 
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werepossum

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It is true. And when they do abuse their authority they need to be smacked down hard to remind them of where they derive their authority. Something about the consent of the governed...
Dead people do no smacking.
 

Moonbeam

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I think it would be fair to say 'simple good fortune' should not be underestimated....nor common sense for that matter.

I think I've had a tremendous amount of good fortune and see no reason to doubt my common sense but I also see my possession of both to be good fortune itself. You seem to think the effect of police harassment was the reason for the woman's death, but I see it as the cause. The cause was the cause because the effect was an inevitability of her fortune.
 
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Caravaggio

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Did you have a point to make?
If Werepossum doesn't, I do.

Werepossum (in 765) was casting doubt on the realism of your statement in 761 that law enforcers tremble before the principle of "the consent of the governed".

That is fine philosophy but a complete fantasy for any black American. The chances of the trooper concerned, getting 'smacked right back', are minimal.

Deeply racist societies do not work that way. They squirm away from, rather than embrace, any notion of racial justice. Hollywood might celebrate such imaginary moments but real life disappoints, in this regard.
Few victims of lynchings climbed the rope and noose hanging them, sewed their testicles back on, and demanded justice in the Supreme Court. They just suffered, mostly in anonymity.

To many Americans, including some on this board, Sandra Bland "had it coming" for challenging the 'man'. (yes, I know, you are not one of those).
But the fact remains, most lynch mobs got away with in in the 1930's and most white cops 'get away with it' in recent times. The 'governed' are not consulted about the finer points of day to day policing. If it were otherwise, Bland would have driven on.

Call me an "illiterate shit", by all means, as you did some months back, but the fact remains, the stats support my argument.

(BTW, you are not Ron Swanson. He was a pretend misanthrope with a funny script. You are the exact opposite.)
 

WHAMPOM

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I learned a long time ago...you fuck with police, and they'll fuck with you. Not saying this is acceptable...it's just what I've found to be true from years of "personal" experience.

So if you cave in to unfair treatment it is fair that others that protest it can die? "No one left to protest" and "when good men do nothing" come true today.
 

werepossum

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If Werepossum doesn't, I do.

Werepossum (in 765) was casting doubt on the realism of your statement in 761 that law enforcers tremble before the principle of "the consent of the governed".

That is fine philosophy but a complete fantasy for any black American. The chances of the trooper concerned, getting 'smacked right back', are minimal.

Deeply racist societies do not work that way. They squirm away from, rather than embrace, any notion of racial justice. Hollywood might celebrate such imaginary moments but real life disappoints, in this regard.
Few victims of lynchings climbed the rope and noose hanging them, sewed their testicles back on, and demanded justice in the Supreme Court. They just suffered, mostly in anonymity.

To many Americans, including some on this board, Sandra Bland "had it coming" for challenging the 'man'. (yes, I know, you are not one of those).
But the fact remains, most lynch mobs got away with in in the 1930's and most white cops 'get away with it' in recent times. The 'governed' are not consulted about the finer points of day to day policing. If it were otherwise, Bland would have driven on.

Call me an "illiterate shit", by all means, as you did some months back, but the fact remains, the stats support my argument.

(BTW, you are not Ron Swanson. He was a pretend misanthrope with a funny script. You are the exact opposite.)
Not quite so much that. My point was that if a cop shows his ass and you don't, you then have an opportunity to seek redress. If a cop shows his ass and you then show yours, you may well end up dead. And dead people do no smacking.
 

BoberFett

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If Werepossum doesn't, I do.

Werepossum (in 765) was casting doubt on the realism of your statement in 761 that law enforcers tremble before the principle of "the consent of the governed".

That is fine philosophy but a complete fantasy for any black American. The chances of the trooper concerned, getting 'smacked right back', are minimal.

Deeply racist societies do not work that way. They squirm away from, rather than embrace, any notion of racial justice. Hollywood might celebrate such imaginary moments but real life disappoints, in this regard.
Few victims of lynchings climbed the rope and noose hanging them, sewed their testicles back on, and demanded justice in the Supreme Court. They just suffered, mostly in anonymity.

To many Americans, including some on this board, Sandra Bland "had it coming" for challenging the 'man'. (yes, I know, you are not one of those).
But the fact remains, most lynch mobs got away with in in the 1930's and most white cops 'get away with it' in recent times. The 'governed' are not consulted about the finer points of day to day policing. If it were otherwise, Bland would have driven on.

Call me an "illiterate shit", by all means, as you did some months back, but the fact remains, the stats support my argument.

(BTW, you are not Ron Swanson. He was a pretend misanthrope with a funny script. You are the exact opposite.)

And you're a dipshit on the internet. Considering you clearly don't understand my point of view in this thread, I'd say my previous characterization of you as an illiterate shit was well founded.
 

BoberFett

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Not quite so much that. My point was that if a cop shows his ass and you don't, you then have an opportunity to seek redress. If a cop shows his ass and you then show yours, you may well end up dead. And dead people do no smacking.

And my point is that as the faith in our police continues to erode, the consent of the governed erodes as well. If enough people get tired of cops (politicians, the wealthy, or any other group in power) and their behavior, society will put them in their place.
 
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