Was giving you its history. Listen, there are people in this forum who didn't know calling Barack Obama a tar baby was racist.
lol I say "yes sir" and "no sir", and if I believe it's warranted, I would file a legal complaint afterward. I would guess the winning rate for that behavior is much higher than is the winning rate for pitching a tantrum.Please tell us then: When do we stand up to cops and how do we do it?
Cop: "Come on over here Werepossum, pull down your pants and bend over, Daddy wants some..."
Werepossum: ???
What action do you take in order to not claim your Darwin award?
If one cannot control one's behavior, then one is not a functional adult, period. Even children are expected to control their behavior; if a child is denied a toy and throws a tantrum, that child is spanked. And yes, you are correct that in many ways I have had a lucky life. I started out dirt poor - didn't even have an indoor toilet, heated an old insulated rental house with a potbelly coal stove, bathed in a galvanized tub, sweltered in the summer with a tin roof and no AC or even fans. Yes, I was very lucky; I had two loving parents who were hard-working and sober, parents who volunteered for extra work, extra responsibilities. I had a grandfather who convinced a rich man to put up the capital to start an auto parts store 50-50, his money and my grandfather's labor, and after sixty-plus years my father finally owned it outright. I had another grandfather that bought and cleared scrub land so that he could farm after working all day changing truck tires, so that we always had plenty of food. I've known people who were millionaires, but I've also known those who didn't have enough food, and I thank G-d that I was lucky enough to avoid that through none of my own doing. I was also lucky enough to see my parents work their way up out of poverty, so I didn't grow up believing that poverty was something one either was or wasn't and that's that. And I was lucky enough to have two parents who were death on any form of racism in the house, so I didn't grow up believing that was acceptable. So yes, I have lived a very lucky life, and I recognize that. However, I've also been a poor adult, living paycheck to paycheck, coming home to find I had no water or no electricity because I was a little too slow getting that bill paid. I've paid my share of stupid tax; being lucky doesn't necessarily prevent that, it just helps you get through it.werepossum lives in an altered reality imagining that he can control his feelings. He has no idea, naïve and inexperienced as he is, that he can easily be broken and reduced to a gibbering mass of protoplasm. He is arrogant and delusional. His lucky sheltered life has allowed him to feel superior to less fortunate people. He flatters himself by denigrating others.
Thanks. I've been duly educated on this, for sure.
The fact that you have been using that term for your entire life around all the people you are around tells all of us all we need to know about how you actually feel.
Take a step back and decide if defending "uppity" is worth it.
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http://www.amazon.com/Uppity-Women-Ancient-Times-Vicki/dp/1573240109
It's based off an old British word Uppish of the exact same meaning. Did some racists use the word to describe some African Americans at one point in American history? For sure. Does it make the word a racist only word? No. Especially in light that it is used outside the US any many other English speaking countries without having that same supposed negative connotation that is associated with racism. Also, when spoken in America it has been applied to all races for a very long time, not just one race. Unlike the N word which has historically only had a very limited application and that was 99% a racist application, uppity has not.
I've read it in many books that had nothing to do with race. Like On Basilisk Station which is a sci-fi book when the book on page 141 described commoners of the planet as "uppity commoners" as a reference.
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I think its funny you point out Weber's use of the word and claim it means something different. He is most certainly using it within the same context as it is used in regards to race relations in the US. It is referring to people are you seen as not equals but trying to exceed their allotted station in life. Hence "uppity commoners" is really no different from "uppity Negros". Its a way of looking down upon those who would dare strive for equality.
America doesn't tend to have much "classism" as other countries tend to have
This usurpation of words to go beyond their common usage and original meaning is stupid.
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
Holy shit. This board is phenomenally funny today.
I know you probably mean open classism, but really, it's coded into our language and media everywhere.
Hence why I say the class war was won. The fight was so lob-sided here because everyone has the "uppity" view that they can and will be part of the upper classes. It's called a "dream" for a reason... it ain't gonna come true. Disney owns the rights to dreams coming true.
But the word uppity is and always will be. But you guys dont care. You dont even see blacks as humans unless its a republican who acts white.
It's no use HumblePie. Just use this as a learning experience. This forum picks and chooses what words mean based on its own opinion at the time and which way the wind is blowing. This isn't the first time that we've redefined the meaning of words here, especially supposed racial ones. Quite telling if you ask me.
Are there classes in America to a degree? Sure. Is there classism? Not really. Go to another country and be born to a baker family. Try to grow up to be anything other than a baker. Chances are it is not going to ever happen.
Now do people born of money in America have far better chances and opportunities to stay well off the rest of their lives. Sure they do. But there is always a chance for someone to be born to a baker to be something other than a baker in America if they choose. Along with have the ability to work for it.
But your cynicism is noted.
Kiss up, punch down.Cynicism?
Are you just unaware of the hostility that exists towards the poor? I'm not even talking about opportunities and the codified myths of self-determination. I'm talking about open derision towards anyone poor. It starts with the notion that they made choices to be in that position and is delightfully completed with the notion that they aren't making good choices to improve their station.
Add to it that they are frequently referred to as entitled and greedy and lazy and dishonorable and untrustworthy and criminals and do I need to go on?
Race is a frequently a smokescreen for the real oppression of classism. And the worst part about classism is that people on the bottom shit on other people also at the bottom.
lol I say "yes sir" and "no sir", and if I believe it's warranted, I would file a legal complaint afterward. I would guess the winning rate for that behavior is much higher than is the winning rate for pitching a tantrum.
If one cannot control one's behavior, then one is not a functional adult, period. Even children are expected to control their behavior; if a child is denied a toy and throws a tantrum, that child is spanked. And yes, you are correct that in many ways I have had a lucky life. I started out dirt poor - didn't even have an indoor toilet, heated an old insulated rental house with a potbelly coal stove, bathed in a galvanized tub, sweltered in the summer with a tin roof and no AC or even fans. Yes, I was very lucky; I had two loving parents who were hard-working and sober, parents who volunteered for extra work, extra responsibilities. I had a grandfather who convinced a rich man to put up the capital to start an auto parts store 50-50, his money and my grandfather's labor, and after sixty-plus years my father finally owned it outright. I had another grandfather that bought and cleared scrub land so that he could farm after working all day changing truck tires, so that we always had plenty of food. I've known people who were millionaires, but I've also known those who didn't have enough food, and I thank G-d that I was lucky enough to avoid that through none of my own doing. I was also lucky enough to see my parents work their way up out of poverty, so I didn't grow up believing that poverty was something one either was or wasn't and that's that. And I was lucky enough to have two parents who were death on any form of racism in the house, so I didn't grow up believing that was acceptable. So yes, I have lived a very lucky life, and I recognize that. However, I've also been a poor adult, living paycheck to paycheck, coming home to find I had no water or no electricity because I was a little too slow getting that bill paid. I've paid my share of stupid tax; being lucky doesn't necessarily prevent that, it just helps you get through it.
Having been raised poor gave me the humility to not insist that everyone who disagrees with me has a brain defect. That would be true arrogance.
But the word uppity is and always will be. But you guys dont care. You dont even see blacks as humans unless its a republican who acts white.
But which one is the trained & paid professional?
This is how a PROFESSIONAL handles a bad situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtcvmu3p6WM
It all depends on the context, when someone calls Paris Hilton or any other rich socialite uppity it surely isn't racist.
Right. They're also misusing the word.
You claiming that I am unable to "properly evaluate this issue" is based solely on my not coming to the same conclusion as did you. What is that but arrogance? As far as claiming that I "could easily be broken", I have been in this situation twice. Once I was a teenager, and I concluded that not only would losing my temper result in me getting arrested instead of ticketed, my being in the wrong was important enough to make me take an ass-chewing. I can do this because my self-esteem is not rooted in random strangers, even if they wear badges. The second time I had done nothing wrong and was told flat out that if I did not let the cop talk to the doctor alone, he would arrest me for disorderly conduct. The situation was that I had met an ambulance at the hospital with a female relative who had a broken collar bone, severely bruised face, and various cuts and abrasions. She was groggy and disoriented and had told the doctor that called me that she said she had been raped by a cop; therefore I did not think it was right that the investigating officer could interview the doctor without me being there. I did not however see any way she would be better off if I went to jail, so I backed off and went about things a different way. I checked her out of that hospital and took her to a different hospital. Neither time did I lose my temper, although obviously in the second situation things got pretty heated and I said some things to both the cop and the doctor for which I eventually had to apologize. (Which no doubt led to the threat of arrest even though I was dead calm when I said them. Still, they were reasonable given the facts as I knew them at the time.) I have never in my life been as angry with anyone as I was with that cop leading the doctor away to speak to him privately; I saw him as being the one trying to cover up a rape by a cop. I did not stop being a thinking, rational being.Your inability to properly evaluate this issue has been carefully pointed out and explained, to the exasperation of those doing so and yet you can't seem to come to terms with that fact. How would you account for the fact that others see the incorrectness of your position and you can't other than there's a defect in your capacity to reason? Neuroscience identifies this phenomenon with conservatives who are defending an ego position. Would you say somebody who refuses to deal with reality and lives in a fantasy a rational responsible adult. You see in the victim of this police atrocity what you are yourself, a person on immaturity who can't control their thinking and make it work logically. That sure looks defective to me. You take being defective personally, but to me it is something you could easily fix with honesty. You are far more down on yourself than I am. I only feel sad you think the way you do. Do you notice the one thing I say you don't respond to is the fact that you could easily be broken. It's your inability to see that that makes you arrogant in my opinion. You do not know yourself.
LOL, I've heard Paris Hilton called an uppity bitch more than a few times.