Has anyone actually talked to MC about a refund ?
" No refund " is not actually stated in that document.
I have returned MOBOS to MC before for a full refund, no questions asked ..
I suppose as a consumer this might annoy some people, but getting a direct swap to a brand new motherbaord (I can't see stores soldering new chips onto the motherboard) is a pretty decent deal. No downtime apart from pulling out and putting in the new mobo.
At the end of the day why get a refund? Why would anyone want to do that? The only logical explanation would be, Principle.
... and why if it is unneeded now it will negatively affect the SATA bus if it doesn't work properly.
"The source of the problem is actually not even a key part of the 6-series chipset design, its remnant of an earlier design thats no longer needed."
Because it shouldn't be there at all but it is (probably because it was deemed cheaper to leave it on there unused than to actually remove it) but due to a voltage miscalculation it comes on when it shouldn't...this causes a problem. Having it come on when it was never intended to introduces unforeseen consequences into the system.
Think of it like this...What does the human appendix do? Nothing really. It can be removed with little or no consequence because basically it's some vestigial remnant of evolution. Sometimes people keep them and nothing happens their whole life. But sometimes you get appendicitis and this can become potentially life threatening if the appendix isn't removed and bursts. So here you have a completely useless organ which can be perfectly safely removed and you can still live a perfectly normal life but which can threaten your life if it malfunctions...This is essentially the same thing. Having your appendix is no problem as long as you don't get appendicitis. But the mere fact that you have an appendix is one more "moving part" and therefore one more potential thing that can go wrong.
You can make the same analogy with tonsils...a lot of people just have them removed when they are young so that they don't cause complications or infections later in life. They go on to lead perfectly normal and functionally unimpaired lives without their tonsils.
I am an electrical engineer who designed power circuitry for years, so the analogy to anatomy doesn't mean much to me. (This is a circuit, not the human digestive tract).
and why it affects the rest of the circuitry when it fails.
My apologies...I did not realize that the fact you are an electrical engineer means you are a robot and that therefore you and I do not have a human anatomy in common. My goal was to draw an analogy that was easily understandable by humans. Here is the definition for the word Analogy in case the meaning of the term does not currently reside in your memory banks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
This is the only thing my layman's analogy was attempting to answer. I was not attempting to address any of the other concerns or questions you were posing. I think only Intel can answer the rest of your questions.
Twice the number of dollars, but the dollars are worth only about half as much now, so it definitely won't cost them twice as much. Also, the "cost them" could be taken as the amount compared to what they have/get, and that would be significantly less, too.this will cost intel TWICE as much; and not too mention that was back in 94, the computer market has more than quadrupled since then...CATASTROPHIC
Hard drive failure, not SATA failure.How to see if you have degraded SATA ports:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ab501.ro/stiri/p67-s-ata-bug-cum-se-manifesta
5% error rate in 3 weeks, not 3 years??
This is even more disturbing than just saying a transistor was biased wrong .
On a transistor you only have 3 terminals, emitter, collector and base. A transistor is like a shutoff valve on a water line. The base controls how turned on or off the transistor is just like the handle on the water valve. The more voltage on the base the more power flows between collector and emitter just like the more you turn the valve on the water line the more water flows through it. To bias a transistor you give whatever voltage is being used to turn it on some help by mixing some of the supply voltage with the voltage to the base so the base needs less power from whatever is providing the power to turn it on.
Picturing it as a water valve on your home going to the street , if you turn it off you have no water unless something else takes the place of the valve nothing can flow to the connection that is your home. If you had two or three different valves installed then you could maybe put the demand onto another valve, but you can't just remove one and not have something else take up the slack without losing something somewhere.
are you going to abuse it ?
you really have to ask?
Am I correct in thinking that for users who just use the 2 6gb ports, then the current issue with the p67 / h68 chipsets is a non-issue?
Am I correct in thinking that for users who just use the 2 6gb ports, then the current issue with the p67 / h68 chipsets is a non-issue?
It's a non-issue for me, and I'm using all the ports..Am I correct in thinking that for users who just use the 2 6gb ports, then the current issue with the p67 / h68 chipsets is a non-issue?
Does anyone know if Newegg pays return shipping for affected mobos?