Sandy bridge integrated gpu performance?

calvin0416

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Does that mean a Sandy Bridge i7-2820 with integ. HD3000 will perform close to a computer equipped with 5850 CF???

If that is what the above graph show, I fear that discrete GPU will be obsolete very soon.
 
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mnewsham

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Does that mean a Sandy Bridge i7-2820 with integ. HD3000 will perform close to a computer equipped with 5850 CF???

If that is what the above graph show, I fear that discrete GPU will be obsolete very soon.

i think you are taking that a bit out of context.
 

calvin0416

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My bad, I was looking at the wrong chart. Here's a better one.



Apparently, it can only perform about 50% of a HD 5650. Still, respectable without a dedicated/discrete GPU

I'm pretty sure it can't handle 1900+ resolution
 

calvin0416

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yes very good, but not even close to 5850CF

Yeah but even at this level, Sandy Bridge will drive a good percentage of casual gamer away from purchasing a GPU.

The only reason I went searching for a GPU is I couldn't run most games unless I set it to bare minimum.

With this kind of performance, PC builders (Dell, HP etc) doesn't even need to put any gpu in their mid range offerings to make them viable.
 

mnewsham

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Yeah but even at this level, Sandy Bridge will drive a good percentage of casual gamer away from purchasing a GPU.

The only reason I went searching for a GPU is I couldn't run most games unless I set it to bare minimum.

With this kind of performance, PC builders (Dell, HP etc) doesn't even need to put any gpu in their mid range offerings to make them viable.

are you implying they do? I have seen quite a few dell and HP machines with only IGP and this was in the $700 range.
 

exar333

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Yeah but even at this level, Sandy Bridge will drive a good percentage of casual gamer away from purchasing a GPU.

The only reason I went searching for a GPU is I couldn't run most games unless I set it to bare minimum.

With this kind of performance, PC builders (Dell, HP etc) doesn't even need to put any gpu in their mid range offerings to make them viable.

That's a great thing! Once AMD's Fusion is also available, we will start to see PCs again with some decent gaming ability out of the box. Makes me nostalgic for the early 1990's again!

This is a huge thing for 'Joe six-pack' because he/she can purchase a lower-priced PC and actually play some fun games on it without needing to install a discrete GPU. I know a lot of people over the years that are more or less computer-illiterate that gave-up on PC gaming because their 'brand-new' computer that cost $1000 couldn't even play any games they got for it. Hopefully we see this trend change and the PC is a viable platform for everyone to use for gaming. Sure, a discrete GPU allows you to crank-up the resolution and eye-candy, but playability for the average user is important too. Exciting times.
 

calvin0416

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That's a great thing! Once AMD's Fusion is also available, we will start to see PCs again with some decent gaming ability out of the box. Makes me nostalgic for the early 1990's again!

This is a huge thing for 'Joe six-pack' because he/she can purchase a lower-priced PC and actually play some fun games on it without needing to install a discrete GPU. I know a lot of people over the years that are more or less computer-illiterate that gave-up on PC gaming because their 'brand-new' computer that cost $1000 couldn't even play any games they got for it. Hopefully we see this trend change and the PC is a viable platform for everyone to use for gaming. Sure, a discrete GPU allows you to crank-up the resolution and eye-candy, but playability for the average user is important too. Exciting times.

That's good for everyone, but I'm just worried for ATI/NVIDIA and their partners that the already small PC enthusiast market would be even smaller to sustain growth and profitability.

Without them, we'll all be using Intel GMA or worse. Maybe it's just me being paranoid. I'd just recently realized how good it is that we have AMD/ATI giving competition to NVIDIA and Intel.
 

Aristotelian

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That's good for everyone, but I'm just worried for ATI/NVIDIA and their partners that the already small PC enthusiast market would be even smaller to sustain growth and profitability.

Without them, we'll all be using Intel GMA or worse. Maybe it's just me being paranoid. I'd just recently realized how good it is that we have AMD/ATI giving competition to NVIDIA and Intel.

Well, they're competing for marketshare. As long as there is the demand for PC gaming, and those games require discrete cards, then discrete cards will be made.

Does anyone have information on discrete cards (in totality) as a percentage share of the total graphics chip market? I wonder if the share is steadily decreasing over time.
 

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26.8 average fps at 1366x768 on medium detail.....

Yeah I don't think anyones gonna be gaming on that anytime soon.

Video work though... very good improvements.
 

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That's good for everyone, but I'm just worried for ATI/NVIDIA and their partners that the already small PC enthusiast market would be even smaller to sustain growth and profitability.

Without them, we'll all be using Intel GMA or worse. Maybe it's just me being paranoid. I'd just recently realized how good it is that we have AMD/ATI giving competition to NVIDIA and Intel.

Same concerns the big-iron customers had in the mid-nineties when x86 servers were on the horizon (as well as Itanium). And the discrete sram (remember when you added CPU cache onto the mobo yourself) segment, etc.

This technology can be disruptive to existing business models, and those who don't adapt and diversify in a strategic fashion are going to go the way of Cray and SGI and MIPS (who all exist but as mere shadows of their former formidable selves) or worse, DEC.

But the consumer only stood to benefit from these disruptive transitions.

I don't know what integrated GPU's are going to bring in terms of disrupting existing business models, but I do not fear it because I'm confident it will be to my benefit in some currently unforeseen way.
 

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The first benefit is that Intel HD IGPs can play back Blu-ray quality video. The second benefit is that Intel's HD 3000 IGP will be used in all of Intel's mobile CPUs.
 

exar333

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26.8 average fps at 1366x768 on medium detail.....

Yeah I don't think anyones gonna be gaming on that anytime soon.

Video work though... very good improvements.

Millions love this ability on consoles today, so the answer would be 'yes'.
 

exar333

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The first benefit is that Intel HD IGPs can play back Blu-ray quality video. The second benefit is that Intel's HD 3000 IGP will be used in all of Intel's mobile CPUs.

Great point. Entry-level notebooks will be significantly more useable now and offer a lot more (real) capability.
 
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