Sandy Bridge = Intels RROD

[TheBoyToy]

hate to say I told ya so.......

 

[Sp12]

Elaborate? It's an issue they say will only affect people after several months (at least) of real world usage, and it's a pretty minor recall. Toyota's done an average of ~2 million recalls a year (on a significantly more expensive item) for the last 10 years and they're fine.

 

[Diogenes2]

What was it you told us ?

 

[alaricljs]

But you didn't...

 

[Beaner]

Dramatize much?

 

[Zargon]

 

[spacejamz]

OP=clueless

 

[Castiel]

It's sad that when i read RROD i had to google it to figure out what the hell it was.

 

[clok1966]

It's sad that when i read RROD i had to google it to figure out what the hell it was.

that is a bit odd, that horse was beat so hard people have forgot it even though it still happens, guess it helps to be MS. Now I might be mistaken, but isnt the board inside the 360 made my intel too? Opps , nope that was asus.

But i must admit comparing it to a RROD is not quite correct. The RROD fix and refunds where made almost a year after it was known, not weeks like in this case. Cant blame Intel for not jumping hte gun, they tested and confrimed there wa a problem and are know fixing it. That there was a problem, bit sad, but it happens to EVERYBODY at some time.

As a Early adopter Im slightly annoyed about it all. But a free MB in the future and a $25 sata III card, mehhh, annoying but hardly end of world. Yep, I will be without this board for a week sometime in April.. guess I will see the outside world for a bit.

 

[Castiel]

that is a bit odd, that horse was beat so hard people have forgot it even though it still happens, guess it helps to be MS. Now I might be mistaken, but isnt the board inside the 360 made my intel too? Opps , nope that was asus.

But i must admit comparing it to a RROD is not quite correct. The RROD fix and refunds where made almost a year after it was known, not weeks like in this case. Cant blame Intel for not jumping hte gun, they tested and confrimed there wa a problem and are know fixing it. That there was a problem, bit sad, but it happens to EVERYBODY at some time.

As a Early adopter Im slightly annoyed about it all. But a free MB in the future and a $25 sata III card, mehhh, annoying but hardly end of world. Yep, I will be without this board for a week sometime in April.. guess I will see the outside world for a bit.

I've never owned an Xbox :biggrin:

 

[Diogenes2]

Reminds me of the saying about keeping quiet and having people question your intelligence, or speaking up and erasing all doubt.

 

[drizek]

The original XBOX had around a 40% failure rate. This is not even close.

 

[Drsignguy]

I wouldn't worry to much anyway. I have one and the first thing that came to mind after the possibility of a return later in time was "if" anything were to go wrong, there are other alternatives like a PCI Sata board. And since I have 2 open, well no big deal......

 

[Zargon]

The original XBOX had around a 40% failure rate. This is not even close.

I must be lucky, my only xbox still works, so does my first 360

 

[OCGuy]

I had to check and make sure I didnt accidentally go to AMDzone for a second.


This thread is pointless and does nothing for the AT CPU community.

SB is a monster chip...

 

[Dangerer]

I had to check and make sure I didnt accidentally go to AMDzone for a second.

Are you sure you aren't in LGA 1336 zone?

 

[smakme7757]

It's funny what i read on forums: Intel says "Sata ports may give decreased performance or completely die over the span of 3 years although not every consumer is affected"

Forum goers with no idea say:

"Sandy bridge is doomed"

"Where do i send my 2600K now it's stuffed"

"I can't boot into windows after overclocking, it was stable yesterday, damn Intel for sending out faulty chips"

"Haha, i told you Sandy Bridge was a flop, everyone knew it would suck"

All this because of a chipset flaw whith regards to the SATA ports; and so many people are talking about how bad the CPU is......

 

[thedosbox]

hate to say I told ya so.......

Seeing as this is your first post in this forum, it must have been in your (wet?) dreams. That's kinda sad really.

 

[drizek]

All this because of a chipset flaw whith regards to the SATA ports; and so many people are talking about how bad the CPU is......

Making a good CPU isn't enough. Intel needs to realize that it has to focus on chipsets as well as CPUs. I've been thinking about my Mini 9, where the chipset used more power than the atom processor. They just dumped out a mobile processor that was completely impractical due to the chipset. My Mini 9 gets 2-3 hours of battery life while newer netbooks get over 10(admittedly with slightly larger batteries).

 

[Drsignguy]

Seeing as this is your first post in this forum, it must have been in your (wet?) dreams. That's kinda sad really.

Also, I read all of his ( now 9 is it? ) posts and None of them say anything about the topic of this thread. Yup, I remember my first beer. And somewhat still drinking it.....

 

[smakme7757]

Making a good CPU isn't enough. Intel needs to realize that it has to focus on chipsets as well as CPUs. I've been thinking about my Mini 9, where the chipset used more power than the atom processor. They just dumped out a mobile processor that was completely impractical due to the chipset. My Mini 9 gets 2-3 hours of battery life while newer netbooks get over 10(admittedly with slightly larger batteries).

I'm not defending Intel, but the problem is getting blown out of proportion. I'm pretty sure you could load up 4 SSD in raid 0 and hammer the sata ports 24/7 and it will still hold out until April or even longer. By then you get a swap over to a Rev2.0 board.

Sure it's bad, and Intel are paying $$ because of it and it's a pain in the bum, but at the end of the day it's really not that much of a problem unless you have mission critical data being transferred over those SATA ports; and if that's the case you should have been smart enough not to be an early adopter of an untested platform.

 

[Voo]

Yeah such a shame that Intel didn't acknowledge the problem for years! Oh wait, no that's not how it is.

Sure the problem will cost Intel some money (they can afford it) and inconveniences a lot of early buyers, but contrary to MS you'll get working HW for no extra cost

 

[drizek]

I'm not defending Intel, but the problem is getting blown out of proportion. I'm pretty sure you could load up 4 SSD in raid 0 and hammer the sata ports 24/7 and it will still hold out until April or even longer.

Yes, but the real question is, why do these boards even have SATA II ports in the first place? Why aren't they on SATA III for the whole thing?

They just don't put enough effort towards their chipsets, and a defect like this is a symptom of that.

 

[smakme7757]

Yes, but the real question is, why do these boards even have SATA II ports in the first place? Why aren't they on SATA III for the whole thing?

They just don't put enough effort towards their chipsets, and a defect like this is a symptom of that.

I can't really disagree with you . Although i doubt they would have less quality control on their chipsets, even though they lack features, compared to their CPUs. It's more cost effective for them to do it right the first time!

 

[Arkadrel]

How many people think Nvidia are rubbing their hands, and grinning atm?

They got a lawsuit out of intel wanting to make the chipsets, walked away with 1bn+.
Intel goes on to make their own chip.... a few weeks later... "this is gonna cost 1bn+ to recall".