Sandy Brige

[Sickamore]

I guess the sockets for this chip will be different. I was planning and upgrading to a core i7 processor for the motherboard that I am buying. What I am assuming it makes no sense for me to do my upgrade now because there is a new bad boy in town coming soon and will use and a different socket. Should I panic. I really love the setup that I was putting together. Can someone help me a bit here.

 

[OCGuy]

What advantages do you think the new platform will have over this one?

There arent any games that Yorkfield and Wolfdale cant run just fine, let alone i7/i5.

It all comes down to what you are actually using your computer for.

 

[Sickamore]

Gaming,workstation and everyday use.

 

[Dekasa]

There will *always* be a new, bigger, badder thing around the corner. If you want to wait, you can, but unless you're buying some pretty high end stuff, your performance and price/performance won't change much.

 

[Sickamore]

I'm actually going for the asus extreme rampage 3 extreme and the core i7 930,also adding one 5870 on there for now. I am just worried a bout intel processor. I am more of a amd guy. Sandy bridge is getting me nervous on the cash spending spree.

 

[Acanthus]

There will *always* be a new, bigger, badder thing around the corner. If you want to wait, you can, but unless you're buying some pretty high end stuff, your performance and price/performance won't change much.

Barring government intervention, you shouldn't expect much change in chipsets post-launch for sandy bridge.

Intel has no incentive to improve their chipsets after enforcing their monopoly.

 

[kalniel]

Barring government intervention, you shouldn't expect much change in chipsets post-launch for sandy bridge.

Intel has no incentive to improve their chipsets after enforcing their monopoly.

Improve != change

 

[richierich1212]

I'm actually going for the asus extreme rampage 3 extreme and the core i7 930,also adding one 5870 on there for now. I am just worried a bout intel processor. I am more of a amd guy. Sandy bridge is getting me nervous on the cash spending spree.

If you're more of an AMD guy get an 890GX/FX mobo with a Thuban, maybe the 1055T/1090T, or 1075T once it's released (September 14-21st?). Then upgrade to the 1st gen BullDozer when it comes out. No harm!

 

[Sickamore]

When you compare Amd to intel. The processing power is of the hook. Amd is not as beautiful as it use to be. I looked at the 965 Deneb and it's the same price as a 1055t and if you have the right board you can still get the it to six core. I fell out with amd because they lack innovation anymore. Yeah amd is about budget but I also want a performance chip that can compete or come close to intel. I checked the quad core i7 930 benchmark to the 1055t. Intel quad still rocks amd six core.

My comparison here I's like have Spartans slaying Xerxes soldiers even if they are outnumbered.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Quick question: OP, do you plan on overclocking?

 

[Sickamore]

Yes I do why not. If you have a car try pushing it to the best of it's capability.

 

[DrMrLordX]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2091809

Please read the above thread very carefully (plus the ink in the OP).

 

[Sickamore]

Yeah I read about it in some article yesterday. That I know for sure.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Okay, just making sure.

In my opinion, if you value overclocking, you should probably look at an LGA1156/LGA1366 chip now rather than an LGA1155 chip when Sandy Bridge launches. I just don't see Sandy Bridge, at stock, stacking up all that well against a 4 ghz Bloomfield or Lynnfield, or even one at 3.8 ghz, unless you get one of the top-tier Sandy Bridge chips (and that'll cost you, I'm sure).

Or you can do what richie recommended and pick up a Thuban . . . you might think the 930 "rocks" the 1055T, but what you're looking at are the processors at stock clocks. Overclocked, the 1055T can hit 4-4.2 ghz and can produce some incredible performance provided that your apps use all the cores. In instances where apps use four cores or less, yes, Thuban is at a disadvantage.

Personally I do not think you could go wrong with either the 930 or 1055T (or even the i7-860). Worrying about Sandy Bridge just doesn't make any sense at this time.

 

[Sickamore]

thats a sensible answer for me right there. then i shouldn't worry about sandy bridge. I was just worried because i will be spending alot of money on this machine. I didn't want to feel outdate when i buy my hardware. I am going for the 1366 rampage extreme 3 if i change my mind i might be going for the crosshair formula 4.

 

[DrMrLordX]

LGA1366 is still a performance monster, and if you ever get the urge to upgrade post-Sandy Bridge, you can get an i7-970 which will hopefully drop to the $400-$500 price range . . . eventually.

 

[khon]

LGA1366 is still a performance monster, and if you ever get the urge to upgrade post-Sandy Bridge, you can get an i7-970 which will hopefully drop to the $400-$500 price range . . . eventually.

Probably won't even be that long before it happens. When the 6-8 core LGA 2011 processors come out about a year from now, the current 6 core LGA 1366 processors will have to drop to much lower prices.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Maybe, maybe not. Look at how long the Q9450 and Q9550 stayed up in price. Granted, they didn't stay up at $999 but still . . . when Intel EoLs LGA1366 and all its CPUs, the hexcores for LGA1366 will be the last upgrade path left for anyone who owns those boards. I would expect supply/demand issues to keep the prices on LGA1366 Gulftowns superficially high for a little while at least.

 

[BD231]

When you compare Amd to intel. The processing power is of the hook. Amd is not as beautiful as it use to be. I looked at the 965 Deneb and it's the same price as a 1055t and if you have the right board you can still get the it to six core. I fell out with amd because they lack innovation anymore. Yeah amd is about budget but I also want a performance chip that can compete or come close to intel. I checked the quad core i7 930 benchmark to the 1055t. Intel quad still rocks amd six core.

My comparison here I's like have Spartans slaying Xerxes soldiers even if they are outnumbered.

You do realize that all this Spartan talk comes at a price correct? Some of us don't want space heaters.

 

[Vette73]

I would wait. Even if you stay with the current stuff from intel, SB will at least make the current stuff cheaper.

On the AMD side they have already said the new 8XX series chipsets will support the first gen Bulldozer on AM3 sockets. Just need to make sure you get a good board that will be supported (update BIOS)

 

[jaydee]

What do you have right now? What are doing that you're worried a 1090T can't handle?

 

[Sickamore]

Yeah the 1090t can but I am looking at the 1055t. I just want to build a machine I know I don't have to run and build a new one. Yeah which one is hotter amd or intel. Amd price is right but what about the heat.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The Intel chips will reach higher temperatures, but the Intel and AMD chips will, in general, put out about the same amount of heat.

If you're worried about heat, there's the 95w 1055T which has a TDP 30w lower than the standard 1055T. It isn't hard to find, and it should run cooler than (and produce less heat than) normal 1055Ts and really any i7.

 

[Scali]

There will *always* be a new, bigger, badder thing around the corner.

We go round a corner every ~2 years (tick-tock).
The Nehalem microarchitecture is nearing its second birthday, so a new microarchitecture is at hand.
I think it's worth waiting for it.
Die shrinks or clock speed bumps not so much, but microarchitectures can be big.

 

[jaydee]

I would think of it this way: Building Intel now, will basically ensure that you'll need to buy a new motherboard and cpu to upgrade in the future. Buying AMD now and you'll only have to upgrade your CPU. If you need the performance RIGHT NOW, build Intel. If you don't, AMD is a far wiser choice, both for your budget and upgradability.