Sapphire 4770 in stock at Superbiiz

one30eight

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Superbiiz has the Sapphire 4770 in stock as of now. Paid 100 even shipped for it.

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-4770_51

I ordered this card from these guy's Fri night. All weekend long my order has been "processing" with the option to cancel. Once processed however the cancel option will no longer be available. This morning they finally charged my card and the cancel button is no longer there. After checking this thread and seeing SonD's post, I called. Indeed they have ZERO of these cards to fulfill orders. I was told I could cancel and the funds would be back in my account in 2 or 3 days. So now I have wasted a week waiting on this card. I talked to supervisor Derek and told him I would take a 4850 if he could keep it around the same price. He would not work with me at all and just kept asking if I wanted to cancel my order. I did just that and if you are also waiting on this card you need to do the same. I will never order from these guys again.
 

Schmide

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Yeah I noticed them popping into stock here and there. You can't beat the power to performance.
 

gft

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but spending more for increased performance isn't always worth it.
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: gft
but spending more for increased performance isn't always worth it.

what the hell did you just type?


Anyhow.... rather get a 4850 for still better performance for under $100.
 

The0ne

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Sorry to hear about your experience. I've order many times from them before with no issues. I hope I don't run into any issues in the future
 

hans007

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ewiz has been doing some shady stuff as of late. you have to know what you are getting into with them. i think they are basically gaming froogle now.

on froogle, you will get a link for say the cheapest price on some cases. I recently bought an ITX case from them (i need it fast and ewiz is pretty nearby... plus it was still probably the cheapest that had it in stock). That said on froogle the case is $59.16 + tax and shipping for a total of $75 and $6 of that was tax which seemed reasonable.

Of course if you go to their site, its $59.16 (at night, oddly $63 during the day!), plus $18.70 shipping plus tax. now the case weighed a total of 8 pounds. it traveled UPS ground 40 miles (like i said they are nearby so i got it fast). I emailed them even though I bought it that i thought it was ridiculous that it costs $18 to ship a 8 pound case 40 miles by the cheapest method, and this same Derek guy replied that that was teh rates UPS was charging (which is absurd, you could ship the same case from northern CA where ewiz is to florida for less than $18 )

THat said it was still the cheapest place to get it that had it in stock andi got it in 1 day (i really did not want to buy it from them for the shipping shenanigans alone, but most places were still charging more , and its out of stock everywhere, it was a hard to get ITX case). but still some shady practices, so you need to know what you are doing with them. The wierd prices that change at night thing is odd too. So their shipping is reasonable on some items, but on stuff they want to have the lowest price on google search for its completely inflated (cases are one realy good example). yet somehow google search still shows some lower price, so they are higher up ont he google list. I guess i do have to give them credit that they double boxed the case in a huge box and wasted a bunch of money on that. I'd have rather preferred just paying less.


As for the OPs problem, I agree its pretty annoying when companies update their stock slowly and process your card. I mean if its out of stock they should say so, its a website for god sakes, they have all that information. The only real excuse is if their ware house inventory was incorrectly done, and tahts really the only good excuse. It is still annoying not being able to click cancel and having to call in and possibly wait on hold though.
 

Gilby

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Not to defend a particular store, but that case may very well have been billed by UPS at a rate greater than 8 lbs. Larger boxes tend to trigger dimensional weight, even on ground shipments.
 

KristopherKubicki

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Hans -- I've seen this before too where they change the price and shipping on the Froogle referal. It appears as though they've yanked the product now, so I guess this one might be dead now.
 

Eureka

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Originally posted by: KristopherKubicki
Hans -- I've seen this before too where they change the price and shipping on the Froogle referal. It appears as though they've yanked the product now, so I guess this one might be dead now.

It might just be froogle... I've been watching prices for a bit before, and a lot of stores update their prices before froogle updates their listing.

At least that was my experience with froogle shopping.

And its not like its the only website with erratic pricing, the egg and amazon both do this quite often too.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: KristopherKubicki
Hans -- I've seen this before too where they change the price and shipping on the Froogle referal. It appears as though they've yanked the product now, so I guess this one might be dead now.

yeah, its a shame they resort to it. i mean they were still more or less the cheapest place, but it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
 

sanders4617

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I bought this yesterday from them.. didn't see this thread till now and I got an email today saying my item was shipped. If they dont have any..why was it shipped? I hoped they really shipped it.. err
 

LordGestle

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In short, they never have any product as they are a drop shipper. If your order gets shipped, and you never need customer service, you will have a great experience. They do not have, and find no value in providing, a realtime inventory system. As you can see from your experience, the one time you need to interact with Customer Service your experience was less than steller. For those that continue to purchase from them, hope you never do.

The way Ewiz decides to handle these issues is ban people that are vocal or leave negative comments, as they did with me, vs spending the resources to prevent these from reoccuring. They also have lurkers on major forums (ie they have posted comments in the past on forums), so be careful what you say because they "might" ban you for stating these faults. I also believe the major business for them is to get advertising via these hotdeals. Nothing wrong with that concept, but when your constantly dissapointing customers, and blaming them for your business problems, something is a miss.

With reseller ratings they are able to exclude price mistakes and inventory issues, which is very convenient from them. However, places they do not have control over the feedback, they could use some improvement.
http://sanjose.bbb.org/busines....aspx?companyid=219269
Rating: F
"Our opinion of what this rating means:
We strongly question the company?s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law?s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company?s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.[/b] "


That's the Better Business Bureu's opinion, and not mine, although I experienced the same issues seperatly and never filed a complaint with BBB. I have no regrets and take my business else where.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1417763
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Well ewiz has banned me from being a customer due to me being vocal on the forums about the poor services when they kept having price mistakes around 2007/2008. Accidents occur, but the frequency and the length of how long these deals remained up was the bigger issue. Especially when people called and was confirmed the deals were valid, only to be told a few days later that it was an "accident". Keep in mind CCs were charged when the order was placed in some cases, so you needed to wait for a refund. The only company that I have dealt with that had similar shenanigans was monarch computer towards the end.

Every business has the right to refuse service, but my issue was they took little to no ownership of the problem, so instead they banned people that were vocal. I believe my response was fair, ie even on reseller ratings I didn't leave all negative, and asked on the forum why did they keep having these issues.

To be fair ewiz may be turning a new leaf (haven't seen to many "price mistakes"), but hope for the consumer sake they don't repeat. As for me I take my purchases else where and obviously doesn't help that I'm banned

Here was my review on epinions. You can see a trend from reselleratings and epinions in that the positive reviews are from people that don't need customer service, the one's that do are not happy campers.

I have made about 12 orders since 2005 with this company. Prior to 2007 I never had any complaints.

Begining in 2007 I was on a hunt for a hot video card that was released. I made the purchase at ewiz as they showed stock, at the price was above MSRP, but was a fair price compared to the market. A few days later I received an email that the item was out of stock, my order would be cancelled, as they don't backorder items and no ETA is given. Didn't think much of it as this happens, but still on my search 2 days later after the cancellation I saw the same item appear back on ewiz for a higher price. Thought it was odd that they had no ETA but somehow had stock 2 days later. Obviously as a consumer this made me question since it returned at a higher price, but at this time I wrote it off.

After that time frame they started having a pattern of price mistakes on several hot items which started getting posted on multiple forums (got to the point I didn't even make purchases but warned people of the seller history). Price mistakes do occur with etailers but what was different with Ewiz/Superbiz/Newbiz was they don't stock any item and they don't have a real time inventory (no notification off that on the website). What complicates this further is on many of these occasions they left the item up >24 hours, and explained later that they didn't "have access to the building to change the price".

Second time it was an employee error. 2 other times it was a fault with pricegrabber/pricewatch. While all the while no safe gaurds were implemented to prevent this from reoccurring and if you called Customer Service they confirmed it was in stock and the price was correct. This took pace between 2007 and late 2008.

It was so frequent that I only attempted 2 of these many deals and vented my frustration, as a customer, on reselleratings. It was a fair review, I did not list a score on items I did not have (ie returns) and gave them a good score for price. However, I was upset of the repeat occurences and the lack of motivation on preventing this in the future.

Long story short they had a decent price on a cpu 6 months since my last order that was cancelled, $4 dollars cheaper than a competitor. Figured I would give them another chance. Instead I was greeted with an email that my order was cancelled due to my "order history" and they have the right to refuse service. What was odd was that I never had any returns, always paid for my merchandise, and the only orders cancelled were due to the price mistakes they had or item cancelled because it was back order.

Not a big blow to a consumer as I have better places to shop, but due yourself a favor and take a look at reseller ratings. If you actually need customer support, there seams to be a trend.

I have only had 2 really bad experiences with etailers which I wrote a review for. Monarch Computer, which later went out of business and were caught delaying refunds to float cash, and ewiz.

I don't like to see any business go under but once the shift turns to blaiming the consumer for the companies poor practices, that boat is sailing in the wrong direction.

Goodluck ewiz.

The Thread I believe that got me banned. Keep in mind this wasn't the last time this occured:
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=896637&page=16
I think everyone can forgive a human mistake, the problem is the frequency these are occuring. For me this occured just 2-3 months ago with the same company on a HD 3850that was also a hot product at that time.
For me, as a customer, I don't expect to be rewarded for a mistake, but at the same time what is this company doing to prevent this from reoccuring? Nothing as far as I can
see.

1) Why don't they have a realtime inventory, or at least a cap?
2) Why is nobody alerting, or at lease checking on the sytem after hours?
3) Why can they only make a change the following day at 9AM?
4) What is your business plan moving forward to prevent these from occuring? Send out emails and post on forums every 3 months? Because that is the trend as of late.

Obviously they don't need to answer to me, but at the same time they don't find it useful investing time to put these safe guards in place.

Look at this other price mistake the had 2-3 months ago:
http://archive.slickdeals.net/...?sduid=408812&t=814548

The excuse in May 08 was:
I work and represent Ewiz/Newbiiz. i am also the one that set the price for this by accident. it was initially for a different product and the person that i sent the file to upload, had the wrong file. this is my human error and our system automatically set it to limit 1 per customer. we found this late last night but were not able to get into the company to change it because of the security guards. we changed the price ASAP but obviously it was too late. if there is any hate, please show it towards me. as this was my mistake. we do put in our disclaimer a note that things like this may occur. we have brought the community many great products and great prices and we look forward to continuing that, but please don't blame the company for one mishap that was done by me. if youd like to blow up at anyone please email me or send me a pm. otherwise ill keep doing my best to bring you guys great prices.

Quote from NewBizzer :
1) Why don't they have a realtime inventory, or at least a cap?
Our office is located in silicon valley, and within a 10 mile radius we can get to Asus, Nvidia, ECS, SuperMicro, Creative Labs, and pretty much the majority of our vendors out there. If they are not within driving distance, the rest are located in City of Industry SoCal which where the rest of the guys are. If we do not have an item in stock, we can get it within the same day and ship out on the same day or next day. As a result, prior to this incident there was never a need to implement such a system, but we are looking into it now.

2) Why is nobody alerting, or at lease checking on the sytem after hours?
We are hiring staff to do just that. This is something we are doing asap.

3. Why can they only make a change the following day at 9AM?
This unfortunate incident blew up during off hours. Our offices do not open until 8:30am the next day.

4) What is your business plan moving forward to prevent these from occuring? Send out emails and post on forums every 3 months? Because that is the trend as of late.
The marketing dept decides what kind of promotion to run. However I assure you that creating price errors to generate traffic was never on our list. We worked really hard to get our rating up and above 9 on resellerratings, and we would never want to risk our reputation.

I can understand why some people feel that this was intentional, because the last price error was also an ATI card, so alot of the same customers jumped on this deal. Both of these issues happened via human error. We have over 5000 items on our website and it was a freak accident. Right now, the company is pulling some drastic measures to make sure this sort of thing does not happen again.
 

sanders4617

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Well.. Shows the package being shipped from Sunnyvale, CA... Won't be here till next Monday (est) as I am on the east coast. Maybe they "drove down the road" and picked up a few more 4770s... lol
 
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