Sapphire Radeon 9500 128mb "L" Shaped Memory $138 shipped!!!

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: k1114

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
COOL

my 3dmark Fill Rate (multi texturing) came in at 2002. this is what i was supposed to expect according to the instructions i followed.



i got an 9800 for $138. SWEET.

You got a 9700 non pro

Ayup, now all i need to do is OC to match Clock speeds of 9700Pro and i'm complete.

hey, but it's a first step and there were NO artifacts. at least in the 3dmark stuff that i saw.

i won't know for a couple of weeks for sure just how good this thing is, but it seems pretty good to me right now.

 

[alpha366i]

order one from allstarshop and moded to 9700.
btw my 3dmarkscore for 01 is 14,000 and 420 for 03.
is that normal??
my rig is 2400xp, 512 gig ram

 

[Kroffty]

What are you running the core and Mem at?
I have 1gig ram P4 2.45 gh
I got 4401 3dmark 03 and 13527 3dmark o1 at 275/275

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Kroffty
What are you running the core and Mem at?
I have 1gig ram P4 2.45 gh
I got 4401 3dmark 03 and 13527 3dmark o1 at 275/275

i got 4800 3dmark. i was talking fill rate multi texture at 2000

 

[alpha366i]

I just did the mod. Didnt overclock to PRO.
How do I run the fill rate multi texture ??

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: alpha366i
I just did the mod. Didnt overclock to PRO.
How do I run the fill rate multi texture ??

do you have 3dmark? go to www.downloads.com

3dmark 2003 won't let you run just the multi texture ( you have to run the whole thing) unless you pay them. 3dmark 2001 does allow you to run just the fill rate. not sure how the 2 benchmarks compare tho. i figure the fill rates will be similar.


btw, i got mine running at 300/325

very happy with this card

 

[alpha366i]

I have both 01 and 03.
HOw do i runt hat test?
what buttons do i click?

 

[LeeTJ]

benchmark

 

[4x4expy]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
COOL

my 3dmark Fill Rate (multi texturing) came in at 2002. this is what i was supposed to expect according to the instructions i followed.



i got an 9800 for $138. SWEET.

you sure 9800 get that? i get 2900 with my 9700 pro

His fill rate is at stock speed on the modded 9500. Yours is OCed.

My 9500 fill rates were:
1070 @ stock speed unmodded
2110 @ Stock speed modded
2975 @ 378/300 with soft mod

3d2k1 16900
3d2k3 5498

No these results are not guaranteed. But the card that can't be modded is still worth $135. If your life depends on getting to 9700pro levels, by all means suck it up and ante for a 9700pro or at least a 9700np and oc it which is all but a guarantee to get past stock 9700pro levels and near OCed 9700pro.

 

[4x4expy]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ<br
not sure there is much diff between 9800 and 9700 pro.

i'm still running at the base clock speed so it is probably more like a 9700 non pro.

On today's games and even benchmarks there is not a huge difference. I am sure though on graphics intense games to come especially the DX9 optimized, the gap between the two will continue to widen between the two, not to mention the availability of the 256mb version of the 9800. (I personally don't consider a $500 card available!)

 

[4x4expy]

Originally posted by: alpha366i
I have both 01 and 03.
HOw do i runt hat test?
what buttons do i click?

If you run all tests, it can be read under the "Details" button. If you want to run the fill rate alone, go under select tests and uncheck all but the fill rate. Run the benchmark, this will take only around 15secs. It will tell you that you have not run enough tests for a score. Just click on "Details" and scroll down to the fill rate measurement.

 

[rickon66]

I wish I had the cash for this deal.

 

[Confuse]

I recently bought the 9500 Pro (ATI made) at Best Buy for $149 plus tax (total: $160). And now I was made aware that the Sapphire 9500 non-pro was around $140 (Total: $150 with tax) at various places. I was wondering if it was worth returning the card to best buy and go for the sapphire since people have been having success turning them into 9700's. How does the 9500 Pro compare to the 9500 non-pro in case the mod fails? What do you guys think I should do? And what vendors had the highest success rate? Thanks!

 

[oLLie]

Originally posted by: Confuse
I recently bought the 9500 Pro (ATI made) at Best Buy for $149 plus tax (total: $160). And now I was made aware that the Sapphire 9500 non-pro was around $140 (Total: $150 with tax) at various places. I was wondering if it was worth returning the card to best buy and go for the sapphire since people have been having success turning them into 9700's. How does the 9500 Pro compare to the 9500 non-pro in case the mod fails? What do you guys think I should do? And what vendors had the highest success rate? Thanks!

I don't think it's worth the trouble. 9500 Pro is a respectable card in it's own right, overclocked I think it could be right up there with a vanilla 9700.

 

[alpha366i]

ok my fill rates were
1572 for single texturing.
2189 for multi-texturing.
is my card a 9700?

 

[manno]

Originally posted by: rickon66
I wish I had the cash for this deal.

don't worry in 2-4 months you'll see the card drop to $70 amd the 9700 NP will be ~130 cards move so fast these days theres no piont to get the fastest unless there's a game that's out right now that takes advantage of it. I'm waiting for Half-Life 2 that's when I'll upgrade. right now my GF2 is more than enough for CS.

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: manno

Originally posted by: rickon66
I wish I had the cash for this deal.

don't worry in 2-4 months you'll see the card drop to $70 amd the 9700 NP will be ~130 cards move so fast these days theres no piont to get the fastest unless there's a game that's out right now that takes advantage of it. I'm waiting for Half-Life 2 that's when I'll upgrade. right now my GF2 is more than enough for CS.

I would have to disagree with this. The cards havent been coming down in price like they used too. Look at the 9700pro. It's still $300 if you can find it. Stores stopped selling them before they dropped the price and moved on to the next hot card. I got lucky finding a closeout 9700po at bestbuy for $229.

 

[4x4expy]

Originally posted by: Confuse
I recently bought the 9500 Pro (ATI made) at Best Buy for $149 plus tax (total: $160). And now I was made aware that the Sapphire 9500 non-pro was around $140 (Total: $150 with tax) at various places. I was wondering if it was worth returning the card to best buy and go for the sapphire since people have been having success turning them into 9700's. How does the 9500 Pro compare to the 9500 non-pro in case the mod fails? What do you guys think I should do? And what vendors had the highest success rate? Thanks!

I would keept the 9500 pro if I were you. You would be really disappointed if you traded and got a card that didn't mod. I would suggest getting rivatuner or powerstrip and turning up the clocks on that card. It's very common to get an extra 100mhz on the GPU and about 25mhz or so on the ram. Even with stock cooling, it shouldn't raise temps more than 1-3c on the card. You would notice a nice improvement on framerates. And the 9500 is still DX9 compatible.

 

[zephyrprime]

don't worry in 2-4 months you'll see the card drop to $70 amd the 9700 NP will be ~130 cards

Not likely. In a couple of months, the 9500np and the 9700(any) won't be available any more. They'll be completely replace by r350 cards.

 

[coomarlin]

Even if your card will softmod you will not end up with a 9800. The reason being is because you will never get the clock and memory speeds up to 9800 specs. But you will end up with a nice card.

I bought a Saphire Radeon 9500 from newegg a few months back it it softmodded great. By applying the softmod the card will go from a 9500 to a 9700 non-pro right off the bat. Then from there you can overclock the card to get it to 9700 Pro specs (325/310). Lastly, the most recent hacks have came about that enables some of the advanced features of the 9800 such as updated smoothvision 2.1 (although I haven't noticed any difference).

In the end I ended up with basically a detuned 9800. My GPU is currently at 350 and my memory is at 305 rock solid. The benchmarks I posted below were at a little faster speeds, but they were creating alittle too much heat so I clocked it down a bit. At the time I paid $155 and I ended up with a hell of a deal. I paired it with a 2500 Barton that I'm running at 3200 Specs. It's a damn fast machine, especially when compared to the Athlon 1.0 Ghz/Geforce2 MX PC I had before

Epox 8RDA+
Athlon 2500+ OC to 3200++ (2260=180x12.5)
512 MB Kingston HyperX
Radeon 9500np Modded and OC'd to Radeon 9800 373/308
3DMark 2003 (5477) Compare http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=800333
3DMark 2001 (16334) Compare http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6524206

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: 4x4expy
I would keept the 9500 pro if I were you. You would be really disappointed if you traded and got a card that didn't mod. I would suggest getting rivatuner or powerstrip and turning up the clocks on that card. It's very common to get an extra 100mhz on the GPU and about 25mhz or so on the ram. Even with stock cooling, it shouldn't raise temps more than 1-3c on the card. You would notice a nice improvement on framerates. And the 9500 is still DX9 compatible.

How do you determine how high your clocks can go?

 

[JungleMan1]

This is the last freaking time I'm going to post this. NO you cannot hack your 9500 to a 9800 Pro, or a 9700 Pro.

9500 softmodded is clocked at 275/270.
9700 Pro is 325/310.
9800 Pro is 380/340.

Not to mention that the 9700 Pro and 9800 Pro use significantly better RAM chips and better cores than any 9500 or 9700 non Pro card. So even if you can hit 9700 Pro speeds with your softmodded 9500, it's still a 9700 non-Pro that you overclocked. It's NOT a Pro and never will be.

As for the 9800 Pro...that is absolutely absurd...thankfully the people in here just said "9800" and not "9800 Pro"...the driver optimisations are included in the latest Catalyst drivers. And even then, the optimisations are only a small portion of what was put into the new R350 core.

I don't see what the big deal is anyway, since you can get a real 9700 non Pro at Mwave for $199. So you're saving yourself $60, not "a couple hundred".

 

[Pothead]

When was the first time since this is the last time? It's optimization.

Originally posted by: JungleMan1
This is the last freaking time I'm going to post this. NO you cannot hack your 9500 to a 9800 Pro, or a 9700 Pro.

9500 softmodded is clocked at 275/270.
9700 Pro is 325/310.
9800 Pro is 380/340.

Not to mention that the 9700 Pro and 9800 Pro use significantly better RAM chips and better cores than any 9500 or 9700 non Pro card. So even if you can hit 9700 Pro speeds with your softmodded 9500, it's still a 9700 non-Pro that you overclocked. It's NOT a Pro and never will be.

As for the 9800 Pro...that is absolutely absurd...thankfully the people in here just said "9800" and not "9800 Pro"...the driver optimisations are included in the latest Catalyst drivers. And even then, the optimisations are only a small portion of what was put into the new R350 core.

I don't see what the big deal is anyway, since you can get a real 9700 non Pro at Mwave for $199. So you're saving yourself $60, not "a couple hundred".

 

[JungleMan1]

Originally posted by: Pothead
When was the first time since this is the last time? It's optimization.

On pretty much every other tech forum, I'm just getting tired of explaining it 50 billion times. Actually I believe I have posted it on AT a few times.

I have this habit of using the British spellings of some words- but optimisations is a correct spelling, just look it up.

 

[schuang74]

Originally posted by: alpha366i
order one from allstarshop and moded to 9700.
btw my 3dmarkscore for 01 is 14,000 and 420 for 03.
is that normal??
my rig is 2400xp, 512 gig ram

Wow! "512 gig ram" thats a whole lot of RAM!