Sarah Huckabee Sanders kicked out of restaurant

[Victorian Gray]

My point is that this all changed, has it not? It will change, and we are working ourselves up over things that are monumentally smaller.

Yes they may be similar, but at the same time way different in size and how they affected this country.

Stop minimizing. Your dance isn't working. Both are wrong and you've been making essentially the same arguments now as they did then.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Stop minimizing. Your dance isn't working. Both are wrong and you've been making essentially the same arguments now as they did then.

Yup, "there's bigger things to worry about" is bullshit excuse for "I don't wanna"

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yup, "there's bigger things to worry about" is bullshit excuse for "I don't wanna"

Bingo!

 

[momeNt]

Stop minimizing. Your dance isn't working. Both are wrong and you've been making essentially the same arguments now as they did then.

Yup, "there's bigger things to worry about" is bullshit excuse for "I don't wanna"

I personally am not comfortable frequenting an establishment known for bigotry. Social outcry the likes of kicking Sarah Huckabee out of a restaurant because of her views and her connection to the current establishment, or conversely, boycotting a baker because of his bigoted views is perfectly acceptable to me. If people want to boycott the diner that kicked out Sarah Huckabee that is also fine. I fully support expression like that. One balances out the other and eventually the true social and cultural climate is revealed.

So I'm not minimizing, I just don't think it is particularly healthy to get worked up over it. You have people on this forum having meltdowns over stuff, I don't think that is good for long term health.

 

[ivwshane]

I personally am not comfortable frequenting an establishment known for bigotry. Social outcry the likes of kicking Sarah Huckabee out of a restaurant because of her views and her connection to the current establishment, or conversely, boycotting a baker because of his bigoted views is perfectly acceptable to me. If people want to boycott the diner that kicked out Sarah Huckabee that is also fine. I fully support expression like that. One balances out the other and eventually the true social and cultural climate is revealed.

So I'm not minimizing, I just don't think it is particularly healthy to get worked up over it. You have people on this forum having meltdowns over stuff, I don't think that is good for long term health.

Then just worry about yourself.

 

[shortylickens]

Does anyone else suspect this whole thing was engineered by the White House to draw attention away from real issues?

 

[momeNt]

Then just worry about yourself.

Thats what I do. I also try to be the voice of reason here grabbing people off the edge of deadly hate cycles.

 

[TStep]

Yes, most of what is out there is engineered.

 

[ivwshane]

Thats what I do. I also try to be the voice of reason here grabbing people off the edge of deadly hate cycles.

Then you are the problem.

 

[momeNt]

Then you are the problem.

How do you mean?

 

[ivwshane]

How do you mean?

I think this post sums it up nicely.

https://twitter.com/WernerTwertzog/status/900382564787122177

"Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches."

;(

 

[momeNt]

I think this post sums it up nicely.

I am locked and loaded for anything equal to or above a night of the long knives. Are you?

 

[cytg111]

I am locked and loaded for anything equal to or above a night of the long knives. Are you?

What are you gonna do about it, locked and loaded? By the time you learn of it it will be long over. Goodbye reality 1, hello reality 2.

 

[ivwshane]

I am locked and loaded for anything equal to or above a night of the long knives. Are you?

Lol! How cute! You think this is a gun fight? Gun fights are what happens when everything else fails. The question is; what are you doing now? And it appears you are hand wringing those that are speaking up and against what's going on now.

 

[momeNt]

What are you gonna do about it, locked and loaded? By the time you learn of it it will be long over.

Night of the long knives ended the last bit of opposition to the start of the holocaust and cemented Hilters path to WW2 and the deaths due to the holocaust. Right now our opposition is very healthy and we still have the democratic process to rely on. If the political opponents start to fall, then the polls will not save us. We will have civil war. I am not sure that if a night of the long knives were to happen in the USA, the democratic process could stop it beforehand. By that I mean, if Trump has it in him, it will happen, we just have to be ready.

 

[jackstar7]

I am locked and loaded for anything equal to or above a night of the long knives. Are you?

Internet Rambo promises to react once finally provoked. In the meantime, doesn't see what all the fuss is about.

 

[momeNt]

Internet Rambo promises to react once finally provoked. In the meantime, doesn't see what all the fuss is about.

Lol! How cute! You think this is a gun fight? Gun fights are what happens when everything else fails. The question is; what are you doing now? And it appears you are hand wringing those that are speaking up and against what's going on now.

See above. Peaceful means will not stop somebody like Hitler/Trump. If he is capable of killing the vocal opposition and having 1/3 kill the other 1/3 while the other 1/3 watches, nothing we attempt to do peacefully or democratically will stop it. So either he does begin killing the opposition and we have a problem on our hands, or democracy works and we don't. I don't really think there is much of an in-between.

 

[TStep]

The Bilderbergs will be pleased that the plan is coming along nicely.

 

[jackstar7]

See above. Peaceful means will not stop somebody like Hitler/Trump. If he is capable of killing the vocal opposition and having 1/3 kill the other 1/3 while the other 1/3 watches, nothing we attempt to do peacefully or democratically will stop it. So either he does begin killing the opposition and we have a problem on our hands, or democracy works and we don't. I don't really think there is much of an in-between.

He can start by relocating them. SCOTUS has already provided the legal means for him. Now he just has to manufacture election issues in Nov and pretty soon, it's time to start rooting out all these dissidents who are threatening America, causing crime, making you less safe and preventing you from having a good job...

I'm not very good at chess, but I can see a couple moves ahead.

 

[ivwshane]

See above. Peaceful means will not stop somebody like Hitler/Trump. If he is capable of killing the vocal opposition and having 1/3 kill the other 1/3 while the other 1/3 watches, nothing we attempt to do peacefully or democratically will stop it. So either he does begin killing the opposition and we have a problem on our hands, or democracy works and we don't. I don't really think there is much of an in-between.

Democracy only works if people participate and that participation doesn't always only mean voting.

 

[pmv]

I am locked and loaded for anything equal to or above a night of the long knives. Are you?

That's a really odd example to pick. _Really_ odd. Are you sure you thought that through?

As I remember from school and from books read long ago (when I had the energy to care about such things) the night of the long knives occurred after the fight to preserve democracy had essentially been lost. All it was was a deadly resolution of a dispute between fascists. It was Hitler finally exterminating the quasi-semi-'socialist' element of the Nazis, the bit that was mostly about the lumpen proletarian street-fighters, who, while hating Jews and democracy just as much as Hitler, were also hostile to the 'capitalist' classes and hence seen as dangerous by the aristocratic and industrialist conservatives whose support Hilter needed for the last step. It occured after the enabling act had effectively made Hitler fuhrer.

So are you really saying you'd only finally come out and fight when democracy was lost and the fight was down to two slightly-different flavours of fascist - one lot being a bit more anti-corporate and the other being more single-mindedly about power, but both being fascists?

Which lot of fascists would you come out and fight for, out of interest?

(Or are you saying you'd pick that moment to come charging out of isolation, guns blazing, to try and take on the entire German state apparatus _and_ the street fighters of the SA? That would be less heinous but also kind of heroically mistimed...you would probably get a footnote in the history books, if they ever got to be written, though).

 

[pmv]

Maybe a key point is that Hitler did, technically, gain absolute power through constitutional means. The letter of the law was followed every step of the way. I think, come to think of it, that example presents a problem for those trying to judge what kind of opposition is appropriate in what situation.

 

[jackstar7]

Maybe a key point is that Hitler did, technically, gain absolute power through constitutional means. The letter of the law was followed every step of the way. I think, come to think of it, that example presents a problem for those trying to judge what kind of opposition is appropriate in what situation.

FutureNews: "These liberals out there rioting are a threat to your businesses and children. We must suppress them for the good of our country. I am keeping you safe. Sleep well."

 

[ch33zw1z]

I personally am not comfortable frequenting an establishment known for bigotry. Social outcry the likes of kicking Sarah Huckabee out of a restaurant because of her views and her connection to the current establishment, or conversely, boycotting a baker because of his bigoted views is perfectly acceptable to me. If people want to boycott the diner that kicked out Sarah Huckabee that is also fine. I fully support expression like that. One balances out the other and eventually the true social and cultural climate is revealed.

So I'm not minimizing, I just don't think it is particularly healthy to get worked up over it. You have people on this forum having meltdowns over stuff, I don't think that is good for long term health.

Meltdowns? Lol....ain't got nothing on conseratives after the black guy got elected.

 

[Phenzyn]

LoL at the internet tough guys

"You wanna war libtards, we got allllll the guns over here bae!"

But we have all of the brains. We'll see which is mightier.

I love how all the internet Trump humpers are a hive mind. They're all exactly like their leader, narcissistic and will lie about everything and anything.

This guy is basically every Trump humper on the internet

Forgets he put up a profile pic, claims to be Black AND Gay because one or the other wouldn't have sold his rhetoric well enough.

And when confronted, their responses?

Because we are the narcissistic racists ladies and gentlemen!!

Didn't you know that? We are the ones expounding hate. The hate flows through us, embrace the dark side. How do these people even take themselves seriously? Hehehe