Sat 1/19/19 3pm Eastern, big or is it biggly speech by the President

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Moonbeam

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4PM Eastern it is. Intent may be to blunt downside of killing Pelosi's trip by pretending there's action for her to deal with here this weekend.
 

zinfamous

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So what was his speech about?

he ran out of huffing glue after his appearance in Dover, so they had to make an emergency run to CVS and postpone the speech by an hour so that he would have enough time to get into his normal headspace.
 

UNCjigga

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Just did a swearing-in ceremony for newly minted American citizens in the White House. Iraqis, European/Canadians, Asians and Bolivians, I believe. He touted all of their educational and professional achievements. Good troll move.

Apparently the DACA fix he will propose is temporary status...not permanent. Non-starter.
 

ivwshane

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If border security requires urgent action, how does a wall, that will take years to build, help?
 

UNCjigga

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First lie: "90% of the heroin in this country enters via the southern border."
 
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So people can temporarily get on with their lives until they are pawns again... majority supports permanent status. This won’t move anyone.
 

dainthomas

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Still 5 billion for his wall. Three years relief for DACA.

Obviously Dems shouldn't budge (Dump is hemorrhaging whatever political capital he had), but if they did that would put it in the next president and congress' lap, who would then make it permanent. Then they could shift the five billion to medicare/medicaid budget.
 

sportage

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Interesting watching the coverage over on Fox News.
I realized something.
Fox is in disarray waiting for the right wing talking points to arrive.
When something like this happens and Fox is not sure how or why to react, they flounder as if losing their way.
Like a lost child in a department store.

Trump just repeated that he wants his wall, yet Trump also gave in a bit, temporally, on DACA.
DACA, something his base ABSOLUTELY HATES and are 100% against.
So.... what does Fox do? What should they say? How do they respond when Donald Trump has a weak moment?
When Trump tosses in DACA on the table for consideration?
Fox is VERY CONFUSED at the moment.
Until the Rush Limbaugh's and Ann Coulters chime in to give Fox their direction, Fox News is in total disarray.
 

brycejones

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Donny's next book (this time actually written by him).

The Art of NO Deal (How to screw up any negotiation)

It will be no more than 10 pages long and written in crayon.
 
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Regardless of what he could possibly offer, it seems like bad public policy to give Trump anything for his Trumpertantrum. Shutting down the government when you don't get what you want is a bad way to run the government. If he got wall money now for taking hostages, he'd be likely to do it again in the future for something else. Best not to give in for the good of the country and balance of power between the Executive and the Legislature
 

feralkid

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Donny's next book (this time actually written by him).

The Art of NO Deal (How to screw up any negotiation)

It will be no more than 10 pages long and written in crayon.


On paper towels, signed by the Quicker Fucker-Upper.
 

sportage

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The problem with Trump is that no one can really tell when Donald is serious or if what he said today he will stick to tomorrow?
So.... can Nancy Pelosi believe Trump? Should she even dare?

So Donald said Mitch McConnell is willing to bring this to the floor for a vote this week.
Does Mitch know that?
Is this another THATS NEWS TO ME McConnell moment?

Trump said a lot and did make some slight concessions.
That was then.
What about 5am tomorrow? When the Trump tweeting starts?
Will Donald keep his word? Will McConnell pay attention or even care?
Can Nancy Pelosi trust either one of them, Trump or McConnell?
And remember..... we haven't heard from Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter, yet.
Their influence on Trump could change everything....again just as before.
 

zzyzxroad

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He campaigned on repeal and replace but I didn't hear any speak of that in his speech. What happened to that? Wasn't that going to happen on day one? Now the big beautiful wall is a small section of steel fence? This wasn't what he promised at all. Sad.
 
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