Sat 1/19/19 3pm Eastern, big or is it biggly speech by the President

[zinfamous]

If she wants dick, can’t she just just touch herself?

I thought she cut it off? I know the Adam's Apple is still there, though.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hey, just checking in. Did he announce Trumpcare and an Infrastructure Plan? Peace in the middle East? Trade war wrapping up soon?

 

[Jhhnn]

I notice Trump didn't mention the 376 migrants who dug under the barrier & all lined up neatly to be taken into custody by CBP.

Bad fucking hombres, I'm tellin' ya!

 

[drifter106]

Just a FYI, the Dems do have the votes in the House to impeach Trump, and a long list of high crimes to impeach him with. Of course the Senate won't convict, but it should be fun watching the GOP nominate an impeached President for re-election in '20.

Kinda like ole horny Clinton was faced with...

 

[Sunburn74]

Got to admit The Donald has a lot of chutzpah in his negotiating techniques:

(1) Floats a proposal in a public "major national speech" without running any part of it by the other side first,

(2) His solution is basically a temporary stay of the problem HE CAUSED (fiat DACA revocation) in exchange for 100% of what he wants now.

I wish this fool would actually start to govern rather than having endless dog and pony shows and crisis's manufactured by him.

He better end his lockout soon or he's going to tip the USA into his recession prematurely-on top of the huge federal budget deficits he has caused.

This is exactly it. Next he'll offer the wall for environmental regulations or something.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump takes hostages. Trump shuts down the govt because Wall. Takes us all hostage. Trump demands $5.7B for Wall on the promise that he won't fuck some of the hostages for 3 years. Meanwhile, he's still fucking 300K or so people granted asylum long ago, like back in 2001. And their American kids, of course. They're going wild trying to find ways to deport green card holders & naturalized citizens for things that happened long ago, like Vietnamese refugees who've been here 40 years. They're denying passports to Texas citizens who have valid state birth certs.

It's fucking shameful that any Americans support this stuff. We're better than this. Our values are stronger than this. Are we a decent & generous people, or not?

 

[UNCjigga]

Interesting watching the coverage over on Fox News.
I realized something.
Fox is in disarray waiting for the right wing talking points to arrive.
When something like this happens and Fox is not sure how or why to react, they flounder as if losing their way.
Like a lost child in a department store.

Trump just repeated that he wants his wall, yet Trump also gave in a bit, temporally, on DACA.
DACA, something his base ABSOLUTELY HATES and are 100% against.
So.... what does Fox do? What should they say? How do they respond when Donald Trump has a weak moment?
When Trump tosses in DACA on the table for consideration?
Fox is VERY CONFUSED at the moment.
Until the Rush Limbaugh's and Ann Coulters chime in to give Fox their direction, Fox News is in total disarray.

I bet quite a few Fox-watchers were disgusted at Trump inviting foreigners into the Oval Office for their swearing-in ceremony. For them, that was an Obama move right there.

 

[kage69]

More horseshit, as expected. Cherry picked data supported delusions, and a whole lot of talk he obviously doesn't believe himself. Should have done something when you had total control of government.

Trump is holding federal employees and their families hostage. That hasn't changed.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

More horseshit, as expected. Cherry picked data supported delusions, and a whole lot of talk he obviously doesn't believe himself. Should have done something when you had total control of government.

Are we sure he's not a coke head?

we're unsure as to the origin of his hair, let alone his potential substance abuse

 

[senseamp]

Pelosi is taking him to the woodshed.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Kinda like ole horny Clinton was faced with...

We have a more serious crime than Clinton already revealed at Cohen's trial. This is more early Nixon days I should say. Clinton was a comparative saint and I thought he was unprincipled.

We'll see what happens after Memorial Day I should think. The Dems will have had time to investigate and coordinate with the DOJ so no investigation interferes with another.

As terrible as Trump's personal financial interests have been there's a good possibility that Russia is the least of his problems. He's already lost his charity and the findings of mismanagement were scalding. We move on to the Trump organization and it would be miraculous indeed if everything was above board. NY at least doesn't believe that.

And so we'll see when and how Trump leaves office and if he will be arrested when he leaves the WH for the last time. In NY we're keen to host him and his family.

 

[DrDoug]

Are we a decent & generous people, or not?

About one third of voters are absolutely horrible people (aka conservatives), about one third are indifferent and blow with the political winds while the last third give a shit about people (aka liberals). I want this shutdown to continue long enough that not only will conservatives think twice about using a government shutdown as a hostage in any negotiations,

I want that middle third to understand what happens when you vote for conservatives.

 

[alien42]

Started with rapists and ended with capitulation, what an unsurprising shitshow.

And nothing is achieved, worst deal maker ever.

 

[UberNeuman]

The underlying fact is that you can't make any deal with someone who doesn't honor a deal in the first place.

 

[Vic]

Kinda like ole horny Clinton was faced with...

Clinton was impeached in his 2nd term.

 

[K1052]

The underlying fact is that you can't make any deal with someone who doesn't honor a deal in the first place.

Yes, the inescapable fact that Mr. Smart Brain Deals is absolutely going to fuck you over somehow is a bit of a brake on any negotiation.

 

[Bitek]

Yes, the inescapable fact that Mr. Smart Brain Deals is absolutely going to fuck you over somehow is a bit of a brake on any negotiation.

Seriously. The immediate response is suspicion, not conversation.

Why temporary and why three years? What, to get this out of this Congress, past the election, but a chance to have the hostages back depending on how it goes?

And if they take this deal, what's the assurance Trump doesn't shut down the gov when the debt ceiling or next appropriation bill comes up?

No way. No deals. Can't give in to terrorists.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Sounds like the same deal as last year. Did he offer a oath to citizenship?

 

[ecogen]

"Let me offer a temporary solution to a problem I created in exchange for what I want".

Fucking lol.

Dems should let him and the GOP die on this hill.

 

[Thump553]

The more

Sounds like the same deal as last year. Did he offer a oath to citizenship?

No path to citizenship, just a three year moratorium against some of the DACA people and a three year of extending TPS (temporary protection status) for 300,000 others that are presently here legally.

Here's the text of his speech:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/politics/trump-address-immigration-shutdown/index.html

 

[sdifox]

I should start a wall insurance and all the conservatives can buy it like healthcare.

 

[soundforbjt]

We need that money for a partial barrier because people who have walked 1,000 miles aren't going to walk another 100+ miles to avoid the fence that 5.7bil would provide.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

My guess is some kind of meek compromise like approve 3 billion for wall and we’ll talk about DACA when Government opens
Then followed by a campaign rally off the TelePrompTer talk about how Democrats hate the military and don’t want them to be paid, Democrats want open borders and a bunch of other MAGA shit.

Called it

 

[Jhhnn]

We need that money for a partial barrier because people who have walked 1,000 miles aren't going to walk another 100+ miles to avoid the fence that 5.7bil would provide.

Or just dig under it like 376 migrants did. Then the bad hombres lined up neatly for processing by CBP. 179 were minors, according to CBP. They'll be raping & rampaging their way thru N Dakota before you know it, leaving Ebola, Sharia law & taco trucks in their wake.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Sounds like the same deal as last year. Did he offer a oath to citizenship?

Nope