SAT Scores

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: Anubis
when i took my SATS we has to wait for them to mail us the results

Did you have to wait uphill both ways?

Mine came in the mail too. I never understood people freaking out about their scores or taking the test multiple times. I remember one girl breaking down and crying because she got a 32 on her ACT the first time and not a 34 like her older sisters got. :roll: I wonder if she still thinks it's that important 8 years later.

no i drove actrually, and it was pretty flat

and yes I agree with you, peopel freek out and its funny,

sh!t i took mine in the spring, i got my results in like June, thsi was back in like 1999

a few hours isnt gonns kill you

and im seriously gonna laugh if i did better then you seeing as the state i was in was less then optimal

 

[ericb]

Originally posted by: huesmann
Tech is in BFE. Maybe you like going cow tipping, though.

Uh...don't think so. Tech is in the middle of Blacksburg and minutes away from 2 other towns , 40 mins from Roanoke (which is basically "the" main town in that part of VA), under three hours to Charlotte or Greensboro NC and sits almost on top of one of the primary VA Interstates. Not to mention Tech blows UVA out with it's engineering program, has a better football team and costs half as much to live there as UVA.

I claim no bias even though I'm from Blacksburg.

 

[tami]

you can't call them? they ask you for your social security number and birthdate and month/year of the exam. that works too. don't rely so heavily on the internets.

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: Anubis
and im seriously gonna laugh if i did better then you seeing as the state i was in was less then optimal

So how did you prepare for you SAT/ACT? I almost forgot to sign up for the last availible test that would get me my results before my college application deadlines.

The night before the test I went to the library and checked out a study guide book, read for 5 minutes and got bored, and spent the rest of the night playing video games. I doubt it would have helped much anyway. I ended up with 1380/32 for my scores.

Oh, and Gamingphreek, you score really isn't going to make or break your application. Your performance in school is what is most important.

 

[Brackis]

Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: Anubis
and im seriously gonna laugh if i did better then you seeing as the state i was in was less then optimal

So how did you prepare for you SAT/ACT? I almost forgot to sign up for the last availible test that would get me my results before my college application deadlines.

The night before the test I went to the library and checked out a study guide book, read for 5 minutes and got bored, and spent the rest of the night playing video games. I doubt it would have helped much anyway. I ended up with 1380/32 for my scores.

Oh, and Gamingphreek, you score really isn't going to make or break your application. Your performance in school is what is most important.

i signed up well in advance but do to myself being a stupid HS kid the night before was another story

i deceided it was a good idea to go to a party, at said party i drank in the area of 15-20 beers, chugged about 1/2 a 5th of soco 110, and smoked weed and opium, this all between 9-12

thats what i recall doing, i blacked out here and there and dont remember it all
i got home and went to bed, that lasted all of about 20 min seeing as i then needed to vomit

i was found lying on the bathroom floor in a large puddle of puke, i was so out of it i couldent even hold myself up to puke in to toilet, my sister and her BF who were in colled had to do it for me,

i puked for like 4-5 hours, finally got to the point where i was finished with that at like 6am, got into bed sorta slept for like an hour and a half, got up at 730 and was driven to the sats,

the world was still spinning at this point, seeing as i was still drunk and high on opium while taking the test i just had to stop for a bit because the words on teh page were danceing

finished the test and all that,

ended up getting a 1280

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Brackis
Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

the national average is still like 1030

the reason peopel score below 1100 is because
1) they arnt as smart as you
2) schools are different thety dont all teach teh same thing
3) some people are horrid test takers

the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

My friend Brett graduated 4th in our college class with a GPA of like 3.95 (physics Major) and he got a 1050 on his SATs

our college didnt require SATs on the admission form because they dont use them in anyway to determin admission, submitting them is compleatly optional

 

[MrCraphead]

So? Have you found out your score yet?

 

[J0hnny]

Originally posted by: Anubis

i signed up well in advance but do to myself being a stupid HS kid the night before was another story

i deceided it was a good idea to go to a party, at said party i drank in the area of 15-20 beers, chugged about 1/2 a 5th of soco 110, and smoked weed and opium, this all between 9-12

thats what i recall doing, i blacked out here and there and dont remember it all
i got home and went to bed, that lasted all of about 20 min seeing as i then needed to vomit

i was found lying on the bathroom floor in a large puddle of puke, i was so out of it i couldent even hold myself up to puke in to toilet, my sister and her BF who were in colled had to do it for me,

i puked for like 4-5 hours, finally got to the point where i was finished with that at like 6am, got into bed sorta slept for like an hour and a half, got up at 730 and was driven to the sats,

the world was still spinning at this point, seeing as i was still drunk and high on opium while taking the test i just had to stop for a bit because the words on teh page were danceing

finished the test and all that,

ended up getting a 1280

For some reason, this seems tough to believe. I don't even know how you woke up!

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Brackis
Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

the national average is still like 1030

the reason peopel score below 1100 is because
1) they arnt as smart as you
2) schools are different thety dont all teach teh same thing
3) some people are horrid test takers

the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

My friend Brett graduated 4th in our college class with a GPA of like 3.95 (physics Major) and he got a 1050 on his SATs

our college didnt require SATs on the admission form because they dont use them in anyway to determin admission, submitting them is compleatly optional

I disagree, I think the SAT is a strong indicator of ones raw brain power. Thus the reason why some of my genius friends scored 1570+ while other friends scored in the 1300's when both take the same classes and get the same grades.
What is learned past 9th grade has very little, if anything, to do with the problems on the SAT. Regardless, the level of profeciency required to score an 1100 is minimal.
Your friend Brett might do well in school, but if after multiple attempts at the SAT he can only muster a 1050 this would be a fair indicator that he has a strong work ethic, but uses things other than ability alone to learn and apply knowledge. The other problem might be that as a physics major he was decent on the math portion, but struggled heavily in reading comprehension and English.
In conclusion, if you have any ability, or even the patience to do a few practice tests and prep books, the SAT is a gift. Get a good score and your 3 hours of bubble filling can help you just as much as the 3 semester of English you suffered through.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: J0hnny

Originally posted by: Anubis

i signed up well in advance but do to myself being a stupid HS kid the night before was another story

i deceided it was a good idea to go to a party, at said party i drank in the area of 15-20 beers, chugged about 1/2 a 5th of soco 110, and smoked weed and opium, this all between 9-12

thats what i recall doing, i blacked out here and there and dont remember it all
i got home and went to bed, that lasted all of about 20 min seeing as i then needed to vomit

i was found lying on the bathroom floor in a large puddle of puke, i was so out of it i couldent even hold myself up to puke in to toilet, my sister and her BF who were in colled had to do it for me,

i puked for like 4-5 hours, finally got to the point where i was finished with that at like 6am, got into bed sorta slept for like an hour and a half, got up at 730 and was driven to the sats,

the world was still spinning at this point, seeing as i was still drunk and high on opium while taking the test i just had to stop for a bit because the words on teh page were danceing

finished the test and all that,

ended up getting a 1280

For some reason, this seems tough to believe. I don't even know how you woke up!

woke up when? to take teh test or woke up to puke?

my mom woke me up and drove me to the test

i just got up because i had top puke and ran to the bathroom , i actually puked as i was going through the doorway so i covered teh wall and door with puke, and there was so much teh acid ate the paint and i had to repaint the bathroom

if you dont beleive me PM "Glitchny" on these forums, hes my younger brother, hes the one the found me in the bathroom lying in puke

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: Anubis
the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

Actually, ETS changed the "A" from standing for Achievement to Aptitude (though now it's supposedly not an acronym at all and thus stands for nothing), because the SAT tested intelligence instead of what you had learned in high school. SAT math+verbal (and GRE math+verbal) scores correlate strongly with common IQ scores like Weschler and Stanford-Binet.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Brackis
Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

the national average is still like 1030

the reason peopel score below 1100 is because
1) they arnt as smart as you
2) schools are different thety dont all teach teh same thing
3) some people are horrid test takers

the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

My friend Brett graduated 4th in our college class with a GPA of like 3.95 (physics Major) and he got a 1050 on his SATs

our college didnt require SATs on the admission form because they dont use them in anyway to determin admission, submitting them is compleatly optional

I disagree, I think the SAT is a strong indicator of ones raw brain power. Thus the reason why some of my genius friends scored 1570+ while other friends scored in the 1300's when both take the same classes and get the same grades.
What is learned past 9th grade has very little, if anything, to do with the problems on the SAT. Regardless, the level of profeciency required to score an 1100 is minimal.
Your friend Brett might do well in school, but if after multiple attempts at the SAT he can only muster a 1050 this would be a fair indicator that he has a strong work ethic, but uses things other than ability alone to learn and apply knowledge. The other problem might be that as a physics major he was decent on the math portion, but struggled heavily in reading comprehension and English.
In conclusion, if you have any ability, or even the patience to do a few practice tests and prep books, the SAT is a gift. Get a good score and your 3 hours of bubble filling can help you just as much as the 3 semester of English you suffered through.

so by your reasoning this kid rob i knew in HS who got a 1380 on the SATs and DID NOT GRADUATE from HS is really intellegent, because IMO hes pretty damn stupid

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: DougK62
I don't even remember what I got on my SAT's. I think a 12XX. They really don't matter...

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Brackis
Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

the national average is still like 1030

the reason peopel score below 1100 is because
1) they arnt as smart as you
2) schools are different thety dont all teach teh same thing
3) some people are horrid test takers

the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

My friend Brett graduated 4th in our college class with a GPA of like 3.95 (physics Major) and he got a 1050 on his SATs

our college didnt require SATs on the admission form because they dont use them in anyway to determin admission, submitting them is compleatly optional

I disagree, I think the SAT is a strong indicator of ones raw brain power. Thus the reason why some of my genius friends scored 1570+ while other friends scored in the 1300's when both take the same classes and get the same grades.
What is learned past 9th grade has very little, if anything, to do with the problems on the SAT. Regardless, the level of profeciency required to score an 1100 is minimal.
Your friend Brett might do well in school, but if after multiple attempts at the SAT he can only muster a 1050 this would be a fair indicator that he has a strong work ethic, but uses things other than ability alone to learn and apply knowledge. The other problem might be that as a physics major he was decent on the math portion, but struggled heavily in reading comprehension and English.
In conclusion, if you have any ability, or even the patience to do a few practice tests and prep books, the SAT is a gift. Get a good score and your 3 hours of bubble filling can help you just as much as the 3 semester of English you suffered through.

you see, i'd really like to think this is true except for the fact that I scored a 1230 the first time I took the SAT's, and after a good 2 years of Princeton Review, raised up my score past 1450. So in the end, the SAT's are definitely teachable, and even more so if you have the money to do it. Heck, my HS offered SAT classes that routinely increased student scores by at least 100.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: cquark

Originally posted by: Anubis
the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

Actually, ETS changed the "A" from standing for Achievement to Aptitude (though now it's supposedly not an acronym at all and thus stands for nothing), because the SAT tested intelligence instead of what you had learned in high school. SAT math+verbal (and GRE math+verbal) scores correlate strongly with common IQ scores like Weschler and Stanford-Binet.

I'm going to have to agree with Anubis. The SAT simply indicates how well you can take the SAT. By simply knowing how to do those specific kind of questions and the tricks CollegeBoard commonly uses when having them created, you can easily improve your score 100-150 points. The first time around I received a 1270. Got myself a practice book, used it for a few days before the test, and I shot up to a 1380. I wonder what I would've received if I had really studied that book.

In this day and age, the SAT is pretty much crap.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: BigJ
In this day and age, the SAT is pretty much crap.

In this day and age ETS is pretty much crap. They have way too much influence.

 

[Juno]

Never took PSAT or SAT.

I took PLAN/ACT instead.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: BigJ
In this day and age, the SAT is pretty much crap.

In this day and age ETS is pretty much crap. They have way too much influence.

Can't argue with you there.

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: Anubis
so by your reasoning this kid rob i knew in HS who got a 1380 on the SATs and DID NOT GRADUATE from HS is really intellegent, because IMO hes pretty damn stupid

I don't know him, so I can't say, but I know a fair number of highly intelligent people who dropped out of high school. Intelligence doesn't automatically grant you wisdom, dedication, or any other of a wide variety of other personal characteristics that one needs to succeed in life.

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Brackis
Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

the national average is still like 1030

the reason peopel score below 1100 is because
1) they arnt as smart as you
2) schools are different thety dont all teach teh same thing
3) some people are horrid test takers

the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

My friend Brett graduated 4th in our college class with a GPA of like 3.95 (physics Major) and he got a 1050 on his SATs

our college didnt require SATs on the admission form because they dont use them in anyway to determin admission, submitting them is compleatly optional

I disagree, I think the SAT is a strong indicator of ones raw brain power. Thus the reason why some of my genius friends scored 1570+ while other friends scored in the 1300's when both take the same classes and get the same grades.
What is learned past 9th grade has very little, if anything, to do with the problems on the SAT. Regardless, the level of profeciency required to score an 1100 is minimal.
Your friend Brett might do well in school, but if after multiple attempts at the SAT he can only muster a 1050 this would be a fair indicator that he has a strong work ethic, but uses things other than ability alone to learn and apply knowledge. The other problem might be that as a physics major he was decent on the math portion, but struggled heavily in reading comprehension and English.
In conclusion, if you have any ability, or even the patience to do a few practice tests and prep books, the SAT is a gift. Get a good score and your 3 hours of bubble filling can help you just as much as the 3 semester of English you suffered through.

you see, i'd really like to think this is true except for the fact that I scored a 1230 the first time I took the SAT's, and after a good 2 years of Princeton Review, raised up my score past 1450. So in the end, the SAT's are definitely teachable, and even more so if you have the money to do it. Heck, my HS offered SAT classes that routinely increased student scores by at least 100.

Did you not see my last paragraph?
The "teaching" you have done is helpful in that it gets your brain more used to doing problems that one would see on the test, it is not teaching you highschool classroom material. Of course taking a practice will help, this is common sense, and many times is shortchanging your brain brains ability to answer problems by instead using worthless tricks that apply only to the SAT.

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Brackis
Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

the national average is still like 1030

the reason peopel score below 1100 is because
1) they arnt as smart as you
2) schools are different thety dont all teach teh same thing
3) some people are horrid test takers

the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

My friend Brett graduated 4th in our college class with a GPA of like 3.95 (physics Major) and he got a 1050 on his SATs

our college didnt require SATs on the admission form because they dont use them in anyway to determin admission, submitting them is compleatly optional

I disagree, I think the SAT is a strong indicator of ones raw brain power. Thus the reason why some of my genius friends scored 1570+ while other friends scored in the 1300's when both take the same classes and get the same grades.
What is learned past 9th grade has very little, if anything, to do with the problems on the SAT. Regardless, the level of profeciency required to score an 1100 is minimal.
Your friend Brett might do well in school, but if after multiple attempts at the SAT he can only muster a 1050 this would be a fair indicator that he has a strong work ethic, but uses things other than ability alone to learn and apply knowledge. The other problem might be that as a physics major he was decent on the math portion, but struggled heavily in reading comprehension and English.
In conclusion, if you have any ability, or even the patience to do a few practice tests and prep books, the SAT is a gift. Get a good score and your 3 hours of bubble filling can help you just as much as the 3 semester of English you suffered through.

so by your reasoning this kid rob i knew in HS who got a 1380 on the SATs and DID NOT GRADUATE from HS is really intellegent, because IMO hes pretty damn stupid

He has ability, yes. Judgement? no

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: ed21x

you see, i'd really like to think this is true except for the fact that I scored a 1230 the first time I took the SAT's, and after a good 2 years of Princeton Review, raised up my score past 1450. So in the end, the SAT's are definitely teachable, and even more so if you have the money to do it. Heck, my HS offered SAT classes that routinely increased student scores by at least 100.

Did you not see my last paragraph?
The "teaching" you have done is helpful in that it gets your brain more used to doing problems that one would see on the test, it is not teaching you highschool classroom material. Of course taking a practice will help, this is common sense, and many times is shortchanging your brain brains ability to answer problems by instead using worthless tricks that apply only to the SAT.

Then how is the SAT a measure of intelligence if it's so easily circumvented by "less intelligent" people using "tricks"?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Brackis
Get a 1530 like me and go someplace better

I honestly don't understand how people get below a 1100. I scored a 1200 in the 7th grade. Sure some problems involve actual basic math skills and vocab knowledge, but 70% of it is stuff you should know regardless of your grades or school ability.

the national average is still like 1030

the reason peopel score below 1100 is because
1) they arnt as smart as you
2) schools are different thety dont all teach teh same thing
3) some people are horrid test takers

the SAT is in NO way a measure of ones intellegence, its a measure of how well people take standardized tests, i know plenty of people that are much smarter then I that did much worse on the SAT then I did,

My friend Brett graduated 4th in our college class with a GPA of like 3.95 (physics Major) and he got a 1050 on his SATs

our college didnt require SATs on the admission form because they dont use them in anyway to determin admission, submitting them is compleatly optional

I disagree, I think the SAT is a strong indicator of ones raw brain power. Thus the reason why some of my genius friends scored 1570+ while other friends scored in the 1300's when both take the same classes and get the same grades.
What is learned past 9th grade has very little, if anything, to do with the problems on the SAT. Regardless, the level of profeciency required to score an 1100 is minimal.
Your friend Brett might do well in school, but if after multiple attempts at the SAT he can only muster a 1050 this would be a fair indicator that he has a strong work ethic, but uses things other than ability alone to learn and apply knowledge. The other problem might be that as a physics major he was decent on the math portion, but struggled heavily in reading comprehension and English.
In conclusion, if you have any ability, or even the patience to do a few practice tests and prep books, the SAT is a gift. Get a good score and your 3 hours of bubble filling can help you just as much as the 3 semester of English you suffered through.

you see, i'd really like to think this is true except for the fact that I scored a 1230 the first time I took the SAT's, and after a good 2 years of Princeton Review, raised up my score past 1450. So in the end, the SAT's are definitely teachable, and even more so if you have the money to do it. Heck, my HS offered SAT classes that routinely increased student scores by at least 100.

Did you not see my last paragraph?
The "teaching" you have done is helpful in that it gets your brain more used to doing problems that one would see on the test, it is not teaching you highschool classroom material. Of course taking a practice will help, this is common sense, and many times is shortchanging your brain brains ability to answer problems by instead using worthless tricks that apply only to the SAT.

and that is THE ONLY place you ever see questions like that
knowing how to solve questions that are always asked in the same way does not make one intellegent, all it means is that you have mastered answering SAT style questions

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: Jzero
In this day and age ETS is pretty much crap. They have way too much influence.

True. While the US needs some form of standardized testing due to the huge variation in high schools arising from local school boards, ETS hasn't provided a good test and has used its influence to control the content high school and early university curricula, often in harmful ways (i.e., the teaching of C++ or Java as a first language in CS1 courses.)