SATA - Matter?

[MarkFahey]

Here is the scenerio:

You have a Mobo that has support for SATA drive(s). You already have two IDE hard drives taking up the Primary and secondary pipes with two CD's. Now you house is apparently full but hey you GOT SATA. Now my question is how many more SATA drives can you populate your system with? And will there be any kind of performance hit? Would it be better to then make your SATA Drive(s) your primary?

 

[MarkFahey]

shameless bump...

 

[Lonyo]

Shouldn't be a perf hit, you can have as many extra drives as connectors (usually 2 atm). Performance will not be any quicker than PATA hard drives, since the SATA will be running through the PCI bus, limiting its speeds.
Dunno about making primary, probably won't make any difference.
I'm not sure if optical drives can go on SATA.

 

[OverVolt]

No pef. hit or gain. I'm fairly sure SATA is nothing more than skinny cables.

Even tho the band of SATA is 150Mb/s and ATA is 100Mb/s most hardrives can only maintain around 40-60ish Mb/s.

Right?

 

[ElFenix]

performance hit depends on how far the controller has to go to the northbridge. if the SATA ports are on the PCI bus and the PATA ports are on some sort of higher bandwidth connection to the northbridge there will probably be a performance hit on any burst transmissions

 

[techfuzz]

Motherboards that support SATA have an additional chipset controller on the motherboard that handles all the traffic. It is seperate from the IDE bus and controller. Performance should be on par with your regular IDE hard drive devices if not a little bit higher, but not much to talk about yet. I'm anxious to see what v2 of the SATA spec will give us in terms of overall system performance as well as hard drive performance.

techfuzz

 

[acid16]

The biggest reason to go with S-ATA is 10,000RPM drives will soon become a standard. The days of 7200RPM are over. Give it 2 years and NO ONE will be manufacturing them anymore (except for laptops and maybe for people like E-Machines or some crap). If you have no use for 10k rpm, then go with IDE. However, S-ATA is the new standard

 

[acid16]

Just another question while on this topic. Running two S-ATA drives in Raid 0......... it's best to have each of them as master drives, and then run the 2 cd-roms as slaves, correct?

 

[Pariah]

"The biggest reason to go with S-ATA is 10,000RPM drives"

true

"will soon become a standard."

not true

"The days of 7200RPM are over. "

not true either, or even close for that matter.

"Give it 2 years and NO ONE will be manufacturing them anymore (except for laptops and maybe for people like E-Machines or some crap)."

Sort of like how 5400RPM drives are still being produced today despite 7200RPM ATA drives being released 5 years ago? 7200RPM drives are barely a standard now in the OEM market. If you think their adoption was slow, just wait until you see how slow 10K adoption will be. One SATA 36GB ATA drive is announced which is not targetted at consumers at all and now 7200RPM is already dead? Not quite.

 

[techfuzz]

Originally posted by: acid16
The biggest reason to go with S-ATA is 10,000RPM drives will soon become a standard. The days of 7200RPM are over. Give it 2 years and NO ONE will be manufacturing them anymore (except for laptops and maybe for people like E-Machines or some crap). If you have no use for 10k rpm, then go with IDE. However, S-ATA is the new standard

Dude lay off the crack for a while man, it's turning your brain to.... j/k

SATA is already a standard in terms of industry standard, but it's going to be a long time before SATA replaces IDE completely. The additional cost of SATA is going to have to come inline with IDE before it begins to be commonly accepted. In the meantime, SATA is going to be for high-end workstations, computer enthusiasts, and NAS devices.

As far as speed goes, 10k RPM IDE drives have come about because of the need for cheap but faster storage requirements. Again most of the early adopters are going to be those who I listed for SATA. 15K drives in the SCSI world have not replaced 10K drives or even slower 7200 RPM drives. Each address a particular market segment and IDE drives will do that as well.

techfuzz

 

[Vegito]

eventually all parallel ata will be phase out for sata, i wouldnt rush now since it's not native support.. till its embedded into the bridges, i wouldn't bother with it