Sata or IDE DVD Drive?

StinkyPinky

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I've heard that there are a few problems with SATA Dvd Drives when trying to install older versions of Windows/Software? Any truth to that?

Is there any performance difference between the two?
 

mpilchfamily

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There are only problems with SATA optical drivers and older motherboards that still use SATA 1.0.
 

WildW

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I've had occasional trouble with SATA optical drives. XP and Vista install fine from them though.

My problems have been with older DOS-type stuff - bootable CDs that load the DOS CD-ROM drivers (mscdex, etc) to access the CD, as SATA drives never seem to be detectable. I have a bootable Partition Magic CD that only runs on an IDE CD drive for that reason.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: mpilchfamily
There are only problems with SATA optical drivers and older motherboards that still use SATA 1.0.

In other wored if your equipment is as OLD as mpilchfamily you will have issues!!
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: mpilchfamily
There are only problems with SATA optical drivers and older motherboards that still use SATA 1.0.

My samsung sata 22x dvd burner doesn't like my nforce4 motherboard(win xp home w/ sp3) for some reason. Will work just fine for several reads/burns then will either drop out or freeze the system, whereupon reboot it will work fine again for a while.
 

imported_Couchpotato

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Of my 2 optical drives one is Sata and one is IDE. I don't notice any performance difference between the two and if there is one it's minimal.

Some of the big advantages of Sata over IDE is the smaller cables and no jumpers. This makes for great cable management although some cases don't like them. If I didn't have angled cables going to my hard drives I couldn't get my case door on.
 

Slugbait

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Originally posted by: eplebnista
My samsung sata 22x dvd burner doesn't like my nforce4 motherboard(win xp home w/ sp3) for some reason. Will work just fine for several reads/burns then will either drop out or freeze the system, whereupon reboot it will work fine again for a while.

I have the S223Q, and had a similar issue last week after installing XP on a new hard drive...after about an hour, everything would freeze except for mouse movements. Consistent repro.

I checked Event Viewer and found that the drive kept disconnecting; specifically that it wasn't ready to be accessed. Google showed a lot of people with the same problem and no solutions other than suggestions that the drive was dying, or the cable had gone bad. People who posted that they replaced the drive said the problem still occurred. So I unplugged the new hard drive and plugged in my Raptor...even left overnight, the problem never repro'd. OK, so it's definitely not my optical or the cable.

Since the new hard drive was a clean install with almost nothing else, I suspected the chipset drivers installed incorrectly and a couple of other possible conflicts. So I opened Add/Remove and found a program called Ulead Direct-to-Disk SDK...huh? I wasn't installing apps yet, and certainly wouldn't have installed something from Ulead. Figured out that the latest app for my TV capture card included Ulead in the installation with no indication that it would be installed (I never click Next->Next->Next->Finish during installs). Anyway, I Googled the title, and shazam...this POS caused the same freezing problem for a lot of other people.

Uninstalled it two days ago, system hasn't freezed up since.

In short...it might not be your mobo.
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: Slugbait
Originally posted by: eplebnista
My samsung sata 22x dvd burner doesn't like my nforce4 motherboard(win xp home w/ sp3) for some reason. Will work just fine for several reads/burns then will either drop out or freeze the system, whereupon reboot it will work fine again for a while.

I have the S223Q, and had a similar issue last week after installing XP on a new hard drive...after about an hour, everything would freeze except for mouse movements. Consistent repro.

I checked Event Viewer and found that the drive kept disconnecting; specifically that it wasn't ready to be accessed. Google showed a lot of people with the same problem and no solutions other than suggestions that the drive was dying, or the cable had gone bad. People who posted that they replaced the drive said the problem still occurred. So I unplugged the new hard drive and plugged in my Raptor...even left overnight, the problem never repro'd. OK, so it's definitely not my optical or the cable.

Since the new hard drive was a clean install with almost nothing else, I suspected the chipset drivers installed incorrectly and a couple of other possible conflicts. So I opened Add/Remove and found a program called Ulead Direct-to-Disk SDK...huh? I wasn't installing apps yet, and certainly wouldn't have installed something from Ulead. Figured out that the latest app for my TV capture card included Ulead in the installation with no indication that it would be installed (I never click Next->Next->Next->Finish during installs). Anyway, I Googled the title, and shazam...this POS caused the same freezing problem for a lot of other people.

Uninstalled it two days ago, system hasn't freezed up since.

In short...it might not be your mobo.

I forgot to mention I discovered the same thing with the Ulead software months ago(been living with the problems for a while now). The problems went from freezing nearly every boot up with the Ulead installed to a week or two between system freezes or the drive mysteriously disappearing with no warning. I thought I had the problems solved when I removed the Ulead too but it continued to happen, just less frequently. I am actually removing the samsung this week and going to an ide pioneer 116d instead. BTW, I have also tried different nf4 driver versions also(including not using the nvidia ide drivers at all).
 
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