It's so embarrassing to have our President kowtowing to some head chopping ME dictator. Although other Presidents definitely cozied up to human rights abusers like the Saudis and Israelis, at least they understood who was in charge. Bush stopped the Isreali bombings on Gaza with a few words. Trump is such a huge pussy that he can't even tell his head chopper to stop chopping American heads.
lol what complete horseshit. They never once gave the claim credibility. They said that that was what the Saudi's were claiming. That's reporting.
Then they ridiculed it the entire day. You're such a goddamn tool.
Well Trump is personally paid many millions of dollars each year by the Saudi royal family so you can hardly expect him to alienate such lucrative clients.
Some people might argue that’s why we have presidents disclose their financial interests and divest themselves of financial conflicts of interest. They might even argue that’s why the constitution prohibits accepting gifts from foreign rulers. They are just a bunch of TDS suffering sore losers though.
Bullshit. You are so easily disproved with this nonsense. Why do you insist on doing this shit? They have criticized them for days. They criticized their denials. They criticized them cleaning the embassy and painting. They criticized everything. They have been mocking the Saudi explanations for almost two goddamn weeks.Bullshit. They accepted the story and ran with it. They still haven't spoken a word about the tape and its contents (screaming for 2 mins while the Saudi officer chops the man up alive).
You clearly are imagining some other news agency if you are claiming CNN is critical of the Saudis. They F-ing love them, almost as much as they love Israel.
Bullshit. You are so easily disproved with this nonsense. Why do you insist on doing this shit? They have criticized them for days. They criticized their denials. They criticized them cleaning the embassy and painting. They criticized everything. They have been mocking the Saudi explanations for almost two goddamn weeks.
Do I have to pull every article they have published challenging the BS claims from SA?
The only one not criticizing them is the dictator loving Trump.
He is the President of the US. He could literally have MBS replaced with some other prince of his own choosing if he wanted. There is ZERO reason why he can't throw MBS under the bus and continue dealing with the Saudis the same way he has before.
he seems to have no understanding of his own power in relation to anything. On the one hand he thinks he can do whatever he wants to US citizens but some gas station prince in his client state he can't imagine touching.
He is the President of the US. He could literally have MBS replaced with some other prince of his own choosing if he wanted. There is ZERO reason why he can't throw MBS under the bus and continue dealing with the Saudis the same way he has before.
he seems to have no understanding of his own power in relation to anything. On the one hand he thinks he can do whatever he wants to US citizens but some gas station prince in his client state he can't imagine touching.
After he was shown into the office of the Saudi consul, Mohammad al-Otaibi, the agents seized Mr. Khashoggi almost immediately and began to beat and torture him, eventually cutting off his fingers, the senior Turkish official said.
“Do this outside. You will put me in trouble,” Mr. al-Otaibi, the consul, told them, according to the Turkish official and the report in Yeni Safak, both citing audio recordings said to have been obtained by Turkish intelligence.
“If you want to live when you come back to Arabia, shut up,” one of the agents replied, according to both the official and the newspaper.
“Horrendous tortures were committed on Khashoggi, who came to the consulate for documents,” the Yeni Safak account said.
As they cut off Mr. Khashoggi’s head and dismembered his body, a doctor of forensics who had been brought along for the dissection and disposal had some advice for the others, according to the senior Turkish official.
Listen to music, he told them, as he put on headphones himself. That was what he did to ease the tension when doing such work, the official said, describing the contents of the audio recording.
I watched the CNN coverage and they clearly reportedBullshit. They accepted the story and ran with it. They still haven't spoken a word about the tape and its contents (screaming for 2 mins while the Saudi officer chops the man up alive).
You clearly are imagining some other news agency if you are claiming CNN is critical of the Saudis. They F-ing love them, almost as much as they love Israel.
Dude what is your problem? CNN has reported many times Turkey claims to have recorded evidence of the murderIf they are so critical of the Saudis then why are they taking "intelligence" gleaned from Saudi at face value and comparing it to Turkish intelligence (which includes videos and tapes) as if they are of equal value? They still haven't reported on any of the Turkish tapes and there is a good reason for that: CNN has vested interest in the Oil industry (which pays for much of its advertising) and CNN is also heavily pro-Israel (which means they are anti-Turkey).
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The Saudi's are crafting an answer that will absolve the King and Royal Prince.
Is Trump a fucking morning or just too corrupt?Which Trump will publicly and repeatedly accept. Then the Turks leak the audio of the murder.
Erdogan comes out on top.
It's Moron in America!Is Trump a fucking morning or just too corrupt?
Dude what is your problem? CNN has reported many times Turkey claims to have recorded evidence of the murder
I thought MBS died in that coup attempt and is just a double?
You think the Saudi royal family would treat him the same after he has their de facto ruler deposed (and likely killed)? I think you misunderstand the situation. Trump in his capacity as PRESIDENT is vastly more powerful than the Saudis but in his capacity as a BUSINESSMAN he's vastly weaker. I'm sure the Saudis would quickly remind him that if he intervenes in their affairs too strongly as president the bribes they pay him through his hotels will quickly dry up.
They haven't reported the content of the tapes. What they report is that "Turkish authorities say tapes exist" but that isn't the extent of information known about the tapes. They are purposefully withholding the content of the tapes from their audience because the content (screams of a man being dismembered alive) would look very bad for Saudi Arabia's image.
Do you seriously think that Saudi Arabia (a ME monarchy with zero human rights) is equally credible to Turkey? Then why does CNN think that? Why do they treat intelligence from Turkey ( A putative Democracy and NATO member) as equal to denials from Saudi Arabia?
You clearly have a bug in your ass about CNN. They are not buying Trump's cover story fed to him by the Saudi;s that this was an "accident" and leadership didn't know about it.They haven't reported the content of the tapes. What they report is that "Turkish authorities say tapes exist" but that isn't the extent of information known about the tapes. They are purposefully withholding the content of the tapes from their audience because the content (screams of a man being dismembered alive) would look very bad for Saudi Arabia's image.
Do you seriously think that Saudi Arabia (a ME monarchy with zero human rights) is equally credible to Turkey? Then why does CNN think that? Why do they treat intelligence from Turkey ( A putative Democracy and NATO member) as equal to denials from Saudi Arabia?
I'm curious about why Erdogan has authorized all the leaks thus far. What's his endgame here? Is he really just upset that Saudis committed a crime in Turkey? Khashoggi wasn't a Turkish citizen or resident...and technically the murder was on "Saudi soil".
Wouldn't Erdogan normally side with US/Saudi interests over those of Iran? I don't think Erdogan holds freedom of the press in any high regard in his country. So why insert a fat wedge between MBS and the US? What does he hope to accomplish???
Sorry, but I just don't think his motivations are clear.
Blah, bla, Blah, bla,, bla. Do go on. What ever it is. Still coming down?They haven't reported the content of the tapes. What they report is that "Turkish authorities say tapes exist" but that isn't the extent of information known about the tapes. They are purposefully withholding the content of the tapes from their audience because the content (screams of a man being dismembered alive) would look very bad for Saudi Arabia's image.
Do you seriously think that Saudi Arabia (a ME monarchy with zero human rights) is equally credible to Turkey? Then why does CNN think that? Why do they treat intelligence from Turkey ( A putative Democracy and NATO member) as equal to denials from Saudi Arabia?
Anybody notice how the usual suspects are totally avoiding this thread? Spider, Taj, and UglyConcerns have nothing to say about this. It's almost like they don't like the story of their God Emperor getting pushed around by Muslims.... they just want it to go away and for us all to go back to arguing about native american DNA tests.