Saw a guy slam on his brakes when getting pulled over

[jtvang125]

I was doing about 80 in the left lane with a few cars ahead of me going down a long hill. The idiot flies by in the #3 lane just as a CHP was getting on. He never sees the CHP cause of the big rigs in the #4 lane. I saw him so I lift off the gas and slowed to 75. My radar detector never went off so I'm pretty sure he just did a visual on the pt cruiser. He races after the car, flashes his lights and gets about half a car lengths behind it. By following so closely he nearly rear ended the guy when the guy unexpectedly slams on his brakes.

I don't think it was intentional but I'm pretty sure he's going to get an earful from the officer. However the officer wasn't without fault too for getting so close.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

Cool starry bra

 

[wirednuts]

its never the cops fault. the guy got a ticket, im sure of it. even if the cop didnt get radar, they can still give him a speeding ticket for 'obvious speeding'

 

[Soundmanred]

PT Cruisers can go over 80?

 

[HybridSquirrel]

PT Cruisers can go over 80?

Must be Kilometers.

 

[Raizinman]

I've seen too often where someone speeding wrecklessly or perhaps drunk will allow the cop to get close to the rear of their vehicle and watch the cop. As soon as the cop looks down or somewhere else, the first driver will slam on his brakes hoping that the cop will rear end them. This causes the following to happen:
1) Makes the cop bias for writing a ticket, and usually a cop cannot write a ticket when they are a party to an accident.
2) Gives the first driver an opportunity to sober up
3) Often when a second officer arrives they won't usually write a tickets as again it looks like the cops just sticking together.

If you don't mind your car getting damages, this often does work. Just make sure you have your head rest up properly and your seat belt on. (Your air bag will NOT go off from a rear impact).

 

[Pantoot]

I've seen too often where someone speeding wrecklessly or perhaps drunk will allow the cop to get close to the rear of their vehicle and watch the cop. As soon as the cop looks down or somewhere else, the first driver will slam on his brakes hoping that the cop will rear end them.

Strictly out of curiosity, how many times have you seen this happen?

 

[Baked]

PT Cruisers can go over 80?

If he's driving a turbo version with racing fuel.

 

[slugg]

I've seen too often where someone speeding wrecklessly or perhaps drunk will allow the cop to get close to the rear of their vehicle and watch the cop. As soon as the cop looks down or somewhere else, the first driver will slam on his brakes hoping that the cop will rear end them. This causes the following to happen:
1) Makes the cop bias for writing a ticket, and usually a cop cannot write a ticket when they are a party to an accident.
2) Gives the first driver an opportunity to sober up
3) Often when a second officer arrives they won't usually write a tickets as again it looks like the cops just sticking together.

If you don't mind your car getting damages, this often does work. Just make sure you have your head rest up properly and your seat belt on. (Your air bag will NOT go off from a rear impact).

$500 deductible, kill your car's resale value, and go through hell... OR! $300 speeding ticket? But still, I found your post amusing

 

[Zenmervolt]

I've seen too often where someone speeding recklessly or perhaps drunk will allow the cop to get close to the rear of their vehicle and watch the cop. As soon as the cop looks down or somewhere else, the first driver will slam on his brakes hoping that the cop will rear end them. This causes the following to happen:
1) Makes the cop bias for writing a ticket, and usually a cop cannot write a ticket when they are a party to an accident.
2) Gives the first driver an opportunity to sober up
3) Often when a second officer arrives they won't usually write a tickets as again it looks like the cops just sticking together.

If you don't mind your car getting damages, this often does work. Just make sure you have your head rest up properly and your seat belt on. (Your air bag will NOT go off from a rear impact).

Yes, because there's no way they'd cite you for evading when you fail to pull over in a timely fashion.

This has to be one of the absolute stupidest things I've ever seen a person recommend. And I've seen people recommend not filing taxes on the basis that "income tax is illegal."

ZV

 

[Raizinman]

Strictly out of curiosity, how many times have you seen this happen?

Having worked in LE for 18 years I've seen it too many times. People with too many points on their license will do anything to get out of a ticket. Otherwise, they can't drive and likely lose their income, their job, and more. Once the cop rear ends the driver it shifts the blame to the cop, as the first thing a judge will say on any rear end collision is: Why were you following so close! This applies to cops also.

 

[EagleKeeper]

$500 deductible, kill your car's resale value, and go through hell... OR! $300 speeding ticket? But still, I found your post amusing

deductible should not come into play if it is determined to be the other driver's fault.

 

[_Rick_]

Over here police will shamelessly paint you as being at fault.

Some copper drove my sister's mirror off a few years ago - claimed it was clearly her fault and drove off. While it was him that was doing the over taking, and her being in her lane.

So, I don't think that method will work very well. An officer's word is always worth twice that of the other party. Plus, there's always two officers to a car around here, so that's a victim and his witness, and suddenly it gets very hard to convince a judge, that it was the officer's fault. Plus, they're by default shining angels of perfection, in front of most judges - otherwise they wouldn't be in the police force!

I'd rather pay the ticket and be done with it. You're likely to get shafted harder than you could ever believe...

 

[mvbighead]

Having worked in LE for 18 years I've seen it too many times. People with too many points on their license will do anything to get out of a ticket. Otherwise, they can't drive and likely lose their income, their job, and more. Once the cop rear ends the driver it shifts the blame to the cop, as the first thing a judge will say on any rear end collision is: Why were you following so close! This applies to cops also.

I would think that most officers (not all) have dash cams for this sort of thing. Also, the rear ended driver would have to have stopped in the middle of the road for a reason. I suppose they could claim they thought they saw a deer, but regardless, braking hard to cause an accident without valid reason to brake in the first place is not an nonpunishable offense, AFAIK.

I believe the officer would be able to get away with it 9 times out of 10, even if he was following too closely. While something like that may have worked in the past, I just don't see it today.

 

[jlee]

Having worked in LE for 18 years I've seen it too many times. People with too many points on their license will do anything to get out of a ticket. Otherwise, they can't drive and likely lose their income, their job, and more. Once the cop rear ends the driver it shifts the blame to the cop, as the first thing a judge will say on any rear end collision is: Why were you following so close! This applies to cops also.

From my experience, I would venture to say that people who are that dumb (to intentionally brake-check a cop) would likely just drive without a license instead.

 

[LTC8K6]

It would be on video, so how would you get away with it? We can spot a brake check on video, and so can a judge.

 

[brotj7]

When my wife and I first met, she almost did that. She had just gotten off of a long shift and had picked me up from a bar with friends. She was telling me about her day and was apparently swerving all over the lane at 2am in her Jeep Wrangler. The cop had followed us for a few hundred feet until he was ~6ft from her bumper. He turned on his siren, scared the shit ot of both of us. She slammed on her brakes to pull over and he went left into another lane. Let me tell you, this guy was PISSED!!! Before he left, he very nicely started off with "If you ever get pulled over again" and then ended with "DONT EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!!" I gotta hand it to her, her reaction time was faaaast!

 

[Harrod]

Ya, on another subject the police around here have a habit of tailgating people as well. I don't slam on the brakes, but I do set the cruise control 5mph under the speed limit until they move on.

 

[BudAshes]

Ya, on another subject the police around here have a habit of tailgating people as well. I don't slam on the brakes, but I do set the cruise control 5mph under the speed limit until they move on.

I love that chp tailgate as much as they want and NEVER EVER use their blinker. All you do is drive around, fucking do it properly.

 

[AdamK47]

PT Cruisers can go over 80?

I was thinking the same thing. The PT Cruisers I see on the road are usually doing 5 to 10 under and blocking traffic.

 

[Raizinman]

It would be on video, so how would you get away with it? We can spot a brake check on video, and so can a judge.

Their video is only set to go on when their lights and siren are on. It is NOT on ALL the time.

 

[LTC8K6]

Their video is only set to go on when their lights and siren are on. It is NOT on ALL the time.

The cop pulls up behind a drunk/speeding/reckless driver without his cop lights on? That seems unlikely.

And if his lights aren't on to pull you over, why would you brake check him? You don't even know if he's going to pull you over.

Move over and see if he goes on his merry way.

Did you read your own post?

 

[rh71]

its never the cops fault. the guy got a ticket, im sure of it. even if the cop didnt get radar, they can still give him a speeding ticket for 'obvious speeding'

I never understood this. My last ticket was supposedly a 75 in a 50 but on the ticket it referred to a visual check as opposed to radar. It just so happens that 25 and over is a stiffer penalty. JUST SO HAPPENS. I honestly have no clue how fast I was going since I just changed into the left lane and then watched him on the right as he rolled out after me - I never looked at the speedo - just know it was definitely speeding. If people are contesting that red light camera tickets with actual proof of red-light-runners may be unlawful, how is the officer/court claiming visual checks of speed are accurate? My lawyer basically just went with it as if it's common... though in the end it was reduced.

 

[SilthDraeth]

I never understood this. My last ticket was supposedly a 75 in a 50 but on the ticket it referred to a visual check as opposed to radar. It just so happens that 25 and over is a stiffer penalty. JUST SO HAPPENS. I honestly have no clue how fast I was going since I just changed into the left lane and then watched him on the right as he rolled out after me - I never looked at the speedo - just know it was definitely speeding. If people are contesting that red light camera tickets with actual proof of red-light-runners may be unlawful, how is the officer/court claiming visual checks of speed are accurate? My lawyer basically just went with it as if it's common... though in the end it was reduced.

Did the cop show up in court?

If it is visual and the cop isn't their to testify, you probably could have had it dismissed.

 

[Zenmervolt]

If it is visual and the cop isn't their to testify, you probably could have had it dismissed.

Myth. The officer does not need to be present. Not even for visual estimations of speed.

ZV